when things go wrong-referral in LA

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

I write to you with a request for a referral in Los Angeles.   Let me first

tell you about my patient.  Some of you may recall that about a year

ago I wrote  regarding a patient with severe varicose veins.   This is a very

tall (6'1 " ) post menopausal woman who presented with (obviously!) blood stasis

resulting from blood vacuity and accompanying Sp Qi and Yin and Yang vacuity as

well.  I had successfully treated mild cases before using herbs acupuncture

and CranioSacral therapy.  Particularly,  I would bleed and cup superficial

veins, and so when I accepted her as a patient, I was confident that I would be

successful as well.   Unfortunately, though,  rather than helping, the

treatment actually exacerbated and increased the  ugly discolored swellings

(particularly in the ankles) and itching. Ulcerations and skin flaking developed

as well.   Nothing I have done has been helpful, as far as she is concerned,

 she is

beside herself in pain and discomfort,  and her husband is ready for her to go

for vascular surgery to strip her veins.  She feels traumatized and betrayed as

she feels I let her down.  In retrospect, I have learned much from this

patient--how incredibly important it is to consider and treat underlying

vacuities first, in cases of stasis such as these.  But now I am no longer able

to apply what I have painfully learned and appeal to you.  Can anyone refer me

to, or represent themselves as being experienced in treating varicose veins,

 using correctly the wonderful multiple therapies in the arsenal of Chinese

medicine? 

 

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Don't know if she still practices but I'd recommend Dr. Zhu Rong Shu in Santa

Monica.

 

JPaes

 

 

 

 

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine ; TCM

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Friday, July 25, 2008 7:15:26 AM

when things go wrong-referral in LA

 

 

Dear friends,

 

I write to you with a request for a referral in Los Angeles. Let me first tell

you about my patient. Some of you may recall that about a year ago I wrote

regarding a patient with severe varicose veins. This is a very tall (6'1 " )

post menopausal woman who presented with (obviously!) blood stasis resulting

from blood vacuity and accompanying Sp Qi and Yin and Yang vacuity as well. I

had successfully treated mild cases before using herbs acupuncture and

CranioSacral therapy. Particularl y, I would bleed and cup superficial veins,

and so when I accepted her as a patient, I was confident that I would be

successful as well. Unfortunately, though, rather than helping, the treatment

actually exacerbated and increased the ugly discolored swellings (particularly

in the ankles) and itching. Ulcerations and skin flaking developed as well.

Nothing I have done has been helpful, as far as she is concerned, she is

beside herself in pain and discomfort, and her husband is ready for her to go

for vascular surgery to strip her veins. She feels traumatized and betrayed as

she feels I let her down. In retrospect, I have learned much from this

patient--how incredibly important it is to consider and treat underlying

vacuities first, in cases of stasis such as these. But now I am no longer able

to apply what I have painfully learned and appeal to you. Can anyone refer me

to, or represent themselves as being experienced in treating varicose veins,

using correctly the wonderful multiple therapies in the arsenal of Chinese

medicine?

 

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration,

 

 

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much, Julio.  I think you mean Zhu shu-rong from Shanghai.   I

was unable to locate her, and believe she has gone back to China.

 

Any other referrals? 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 7/25/08, julio paes <jp4sail wrote:

 

julio paes <jp4sail

Re: when things go wrong-referral in LA

 

Friday, July 25, 2008, 11:17 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't know if she still practices but I'd recommend Dr. Zhu Rong Shu in Santa

Monica.

 

JPaes

 

 

>

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine; TCM <traditional_

chinese_medicine >

Friday, July 25, 2008 7:15:26 AM

when things go wrong-referral in LA

 

Dear friends,

 

I write to you with a request for a referral in Los Angeles. Let me first tell

you about my patient. Some of you may recall that about a year ago I wrote

regarding a patient with severe varicose veins. This is a very tall (6'1 " ) post

menopausal woman who presented with (obviously!) blood stasis resulting from

blood vacuity and accompanying Sp Qi and Yin and Yang vacuity as well. I had

successfully treated mild cases before using herbs acupuncture and CranioSacral

therapy. Particularl y, I would bleed and cup superficial veins, and so when I

accepted her as a patient, I was confident that I would be successful as well.

Unfortunately, though, rather than helping, the treatment actually exacerbated

and increased the ugly discolored swellings (particularly in the ankles) and

itching. Ulcerations and skin flaking developed as well. Nothing I have done has

been helpful, as far as she is concerned, she is

beside herself in pain and discomfort, and her husband is ready for her to go

for vascular surgery to strip her veins. She feels traumatized and betrayed as

she feels I let her down. In retrospect, I have learned much from this

patient--how incredibly important it is to consider and treat underlying

vacuities first, in cases of stasis such as these. But now I am no longer able

to apply what I have painfully learned and appeal to you. Can anyone refer me

to, or represent themselves as being experienced in treating varicose veins,

using correctly the wonderful multiple therapies in the arsenal of Chinese

medicine?

 

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration,

 

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Really? I can't believe it.... It's been a while since I've last seen her and I

knew her daughter spent some time in China after finishing her tutoring with her

but I'm almost sure she came back to CA....I'll see if I can locate her.

JPaes

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friday, July 25, 2008 5:09:48 PM

Re: when things go wrong-referral in LA

 

 

Thank you very much, Julio. I think you mean Zhu shu-rong from Shanghai. I

was unable to locate her, and believe she has gone back to China.

 

Any other referrals?

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

 

--- On Fri, 7/25/08, julio paes <jp4sail > wrote:

 

julio paes <jp4sail >

Re: when things go wrong-referral in LA

 

Friday, July 25, 2008, 11:17 AM

 

Don't know if she still practices but I'd recommend Dr. Zhu Rong Shu in Santa

Monica.

 

JPaes

 

 

>

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine; TCM <traditional_

chinese_medicine >

Friday, July 25, 2008 7:15:26 AM

when things go wrong-referral in LA

 

Dear friends,

 

I write to you with a request for a referral in Los Angeles. Let me first tell

you about my patient. Some of you may recall that about a year ago I wrote

regarding a patient with severe varicose veins. This is a very tall (6'1 " ) post

menopausal woman who presented with (obviously!) blood stasis resulting from

blood vacuity and accompanying Sp Qi and Yin and Yang vacuity as well. I had

successfully treated mild cases before using herbs acupuncture and CranioSacral

therapy. Particularl y, I would bleed and cup superficial veins, and so when I

accepted her as a patient, I was confident that I would be successful as well.

Unfortunately, though, rather than helping, the treatment actually exacerbated

and increased the ugly discolored swellings (particularly in the ankles) and

itching. Ulcerations and skin flaking developed as well. Nothing I have done has

been helpful, as far as she is concerned, she is

beside herself in pain and discomfort, and her husband is ready for her to go

for vascular surgery to strip her veins. She feels traumatized and betrayed as

she feels I let her down. In retrospect, I have learned much from this

patient--how incredibly important it is to consider and treat underlying

vacuities first, in cases of stasis such as these. But now I am no longer able

to apply what I have painfully learned and appeal to you. Can anyone refer me

to, or represent themselves as being experienced in treating varicose veins,

using correctly the wonderful multiple therapies in the arsenal of Chinese

medicine?

 

Thank you for your thoughtful consideration,

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net