Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 HI- Does anyone have any thoughts about how to understand (and treat) PTSD within the framework of chinese medicine? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks Graham Haynes, MAOM, L.Ac. www.AcupunctureInMaine.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Graham, Acupuncturists without Borders (AWB) is at the forefront of PTSD acupuncture care in this country http://www.acuwithoutborders.org/veteransprogram.php Veterans, natural disasters etc. Also, here are a few articles from acupuncturetoday.com http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/search-at.php?q=ptsd & searchtype=a & ul=http%3A%2F%\ 2Fwww.acupuncturetoday.com%2F%25 & cmd=Search%21 & searchButton.x=0 & searchButton.y=0 Best to you, K. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:15 AM, graham <dghaynes131 wrote: > HI- > > Does anyone have any thoughts about how to understand (and treat) PTSD > within the framework of chinese medicine? > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Graham Haynes, MAOM, L.Ac. > www.AcupunctureInMaine.com > > > -- aka Mu bong Lim Father of Bhakti The Four Reliances: Do not rely upon the individual, but rely upon the teaching. As far as teachings go, do not rely upon the words alone, but rely upon the meaning that underlies them. Regarding the meaning, do not rely upon the provisional meaning alone, but rely upon the definitive meaning. And regarding the definitive meaning, do not rely upon ordinary consciousness, but rely upon wisdom awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Some additional thoughts: NADA (National Acupuncture Detoxification Association) also has experience working with trauma and ptsd internationally. They developed a 5pt auricular protocol over 30 years ago. (If not mistaken, this is the same protocol used by AWB.) The NADA website (acudetox.com) would have access to literature on the topic. Also, Laura Cooley, an occasional contributor to this list, has produced an excellent 15 minute film documenting the use of this protocol amongst first responders at ground 0 after 9/11. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 lauramon Re: PTSD July 22, 2008 11:55:15 AM EDT Chinese Medicine Thanks Don, actually the best info comes from Nityamo Lian, who has published research on PTSD and acupuncture. It is full body acupuncture, not the NADA protocol. It was recently cited on Medscape in a review of research lit on complimentary medicine and Nityamo's research was the only piece of evidence of any alternative medicine being useful. For the record it turned out as well as Cognitive Behavioral Medicine. CBM is the best going that Western Medicine has. PTSD is complicated as no one can predict with assurity as to who will develop it, it develops over time, differently in different people. Different treatments long practiced have caused harm to certain groups of people. The same response in 2 different people could spell problems for just one of them. Talking, for some, can help to develop PTSD while for others it is the key to not developing PTSD. I wrote the NADA manual for PTSD and was the trainer for St Vincent's walk in acupcunture program and the trainer in New Orleans after the storm on the Cruise Ships, and I have just finished the first training in New Orleans funded by the Red Cross, post recovery period. Acupuncture has truly a lot to offer this situation, but it is not the end all be all cure all and one would be doing a disservice to one clients to portray it that way. Nityamo's references and articles would not send on this email. If you want them send me an email and I will send it to you. But Don is right, we at NADA have been treating PTSD for over 30 years, our programs and people have been working inside psychiatric facilities for decades. It was NADA trainers who integrated acupcunture into the New York City Fire department after 9/11, and NADA trainers who were invited into the Command Post in New Orleans to treat the Coast Guard, Firefighters, National Guard, EMS workers and those responsible for responding to the flood. It was NADA trainers who were invited to the cruise ships housing emergency personnel in New Orleans to train EMS workers after the storm. We were invited in because we have a great deal of experience in this area, far more than anyone else except those practicing in war zones. As Don says, I have just about completed a 15 minute video on the use of the NADA points after traumatic events. One should bear in mind, that the points that we use are not the protocol. The protocol has more to do with the entire treatment milieu. It has come clear to me that when acupuncturists talk about the NADA protocol, they are referring to the points. When NADA refers to the NADA protocol, we are referring to a whole style of treatment and integration that we have pioneered, with the help of our clients, not the points. Laura Cooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Laura How will your video be made available? - Laura Cooley Chinese Medicine Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:58 AM Re: PTSD lauramon Re: PTSD July 22, 2008 11:55:15 AM EDT Chinese Medicine Thanks Don, actually the best info comes from Nityamo Lian, who has published research on PTSD and acupuncture. It is full body acupuncture, not the NADA protocol. It was recently cited on Medscape in a review of research lit on complimentary medicine and Nityamo's research was the only piece of evidence of any alternative medicine being useful. For the record it turned out as well as Cognitive Behavioral Medicine. CBM is the best going that Western Medicine has. PTSD is complicated as no one can predict with assurity as to who will develop it, it develops over time, differently in different people. Different treatments long practiced have caused harm to certain groups of people. The same response in 2 different people could spell problems for just one of them. Talking, for some, can help to develop PTSD while for others it is the key to not developing PTSD. I wrote the NADA manual for PTSD and was the trainer for St Vincent's walk in acupcunture program and the trainer in New Orleans after the storm on the Cruise Ships, and I have just finished the first training in New Orleans funded by the Red Cross, post recovery period. Acupuncture has truly a lot to offer this situation, but it is not the end all be all cure all and one would be doing a disservice to one clients to portray it that way. Nityamo's references and articles would not send on this email. If you want them send me an email and I will send it to you. But Don is right, we at NADA have been treating PTSD for over 30 years, our programs and people have been working inside psychiatric facilities for decades. It was NADA trainers who integrated acupcunture into the New York City Fire department after 9/11, and NADA trainers who were invited into the Command Post in New Orleans to treat the Coast Guard, Firefighters, National Guard, EMS workers and those responsible for responding to the flood. It was NADA trainers who were invited to the cruise ships housing emergency personnel in New Orleans to train EMS workers after the storm. We were invited in because we have a great deal of experience in this area, far more than anyone else except those practicing in war zones. As Don says, I have just about completed a 15 minute video on the use of the NADA points after traumatic events. One should bear in mind, that the points that we use are not the protocol. The protocol has more to do with the entire treatment milieu. It has come clear to me that when acupuncturists talk about the NADA protocol, they are referring to the points. When NADA refers to the NADA protocol, we are referring to a whole style of treatment and integration that we have pioneered, with the help of our clients, not the points. Laura Cooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.