Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 From a chiropractor - I believe bonesetting, tuina, chiropractic, etc. all have been recognized as valuable modalities for centuries. I think the Palmer's knew about it and after the famous deaf janitor story it seemed right in Iowa at the time to expand on the theories. More western terminology was used, more anatomy investigated, more precision incorporated and soon people really started seeing what could be done by spinal manipulation. This is when chiropractic became an art, science and philosophy. It has a basis in the ancient methods but expanded on them with western thought. Now they have a clear picture of the intricate anatomy of nerves, a clearer idea of what happens to the nervous system and then the body before and after manipulations and more documentation tracking what happens to people who get or do not get adjustments over time (a health benefit or not). By the way - D.D. Palmer (magnetic healer, teacher, philosopher) 'discovered' it with the janitor, B.J. Palmer (the very charismatic and controversial one) developed it, made it a strong institution and Daniel Palmer came next and almost lost the whole thing. B.J. was an interesting man and the stuff they do not teach in chiro. school is his spiritual explorations that involved much time in the East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Listen. ..Joint manipulation/adjustment/whatever you choose to call it has been a part of the manual healing medicines of all traditional cultures from time immemorial. Do you dispute this? - Brian J. Harasha, D.C. Chinese Medicine Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:49 PM tuina and chiropractic From a chiropractor - I believe bonesetting, tuina, chiropractic, etc. all have been recognized as valuable modalities for centuries. I think the Palmer's knew about it and after the famous deaf janitor story it seemed right in Iowa at the time to expand on the theories. More western terminology was used, more anatomy investigated, more precision incorporated and soon people really started seeing what could be done by spinal manipulation. This is when chiropractic became an art, science and philosophy. It has a basis in the ancient methods but expanded on them with western thought. Now they have a clear picture of the intricate anatomy of nerves, a clearer idea of what happens to the nervous system and then the body before and after manipulations and more documentation tracking what happens to people who get or do not get adjustments over time (a health benefit or not). By the way - D.D. Palmer (magnetic healer, teacher, philosopher) 'discovered' it with the janitor, B.J. Palmer (the very charismatic and controversial one) developed it, made it a strong institution and Daniel Palmer came next and almost lost the whole thing. B.J. was an interesting man and the stuff they do not teach in chiro. school is his spiritual explorations that involved much time in the East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hmmm, I don't understand the hostility. Here is the first two sentences of my post and your reply: Posted by: " Turiya Hill " <turiya?Subject=%20Re%3A%20tuina%20and%20chiropractic> turiya <http://profiles./turiyahill> turiyahill Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:57 pm (PDT) Listen. ..Joint manipulation/adjustment/whatever you choose to call it has been a part of the manual healing medicines of all traditional cultures from time immemorial. Do you dispute this? - Brian J. Harasha, D.C. <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese Medicine Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:49 PM tuina and chiropractic From a chiropractor - I believe bonesetting, tuina, chiropractic, etc. all have been recognized as valuable modalities for centuries. I think the Palmer's knew about it and after the famous deaf janitor story it seemed right in Iowa at the time to expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Brian My apologies...I was too hasty in my response and it did come off as a little hostle. Turiya - Brian Harasha Chinese Medicine Monday, July 21, 2008 4:03 PM Re: tuina and chiropractic Hmmm, I don't understand the hostility. Here is the first two sentences of my post and your reply: Posted by: " Turiya Hill " <turiya?Subject=%20Re%3A%20tuina%20and%20chiropractic> turiya <http://profiles./turiyahill> turiyahill Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:57 pm (PDT) Listen. ..Joint manipulation/adjustment/whatever you choose to call it has been a part of the manual healing medicines of all traditional cultures from time immemorial. Do you dispute this? - Brian J. Harasha, D.C. <Chinese Medicine%40> Chinese Medicine Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:49 PM tuina and chiropractic From a chiropractor - I believe bonesetting, tuina, chiropractic, etc. all have been recognized as valuable modalities for centuries. I think the Palmer's knew about it and after the famous deaf janitor story it seemed right in Iowa at the time to expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I promise this is my last post on the subject. Maybe you guys are misunderstanding me. I wholeheartedly agree that there is a problem with DCs and MDs practicing acupuncture without the using the traditional theories behind it. They should at least be calling themselves chiro-puncturist and medico-puncturists or something. I go back to my two ideas of it being safe for the patient and for unique disciplines to keep their identity. It is a shame that two big healthcare giants have borrowed a piece of the tradition. I don't know what can be done now but in the present and future at least they should say they are not TCM, they are not traditional acupuncturists. And if they have to keep needling patients, at least say they are borrowing some techniques from TCM to help with their health problems. As far as tuina, etc. and chiropractic. If a patient is presented to each practitioner, they will each have a totally different approach to treatment and management of that patient. That is the uniqueness of each method and that is why a tuina practitioner should not call themselves a chiropractor. (please do not keep this thread going by saying each chiropractor will treat the patient differently too. I know this but there is a much stronger common theme among all the chiropractic techniques and it is more western, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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