Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi Yehuda, My book says 1.5 ~ 9 gr. -Contraindicated w/early stage of coughs or rash, unresolved exterior and excessive internal heat. -Caution during pregnancy. Kind regards, Gloria --- On Mon, 6/30/08, wrote: Wu Wei Zi dosage Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine , " TCM " <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Monday, June 30, 2008, 10:48 AM Dear colleagues, Can anyone tell me why the maximum recommended dosage for Wu Wei Zi is only 6g. It is such a such a wonderful yin, jing and shen nourishing herb-- I would think in cases of severe vacuity that larger doses should be considered. \ \ www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Dear colleagues, Can anyone tell me why the maximum recommended dosage for Wu Wei Zi is only 6g. It is such a such a wonderful yin, jing and shen nourishing herb-- I would think in cases of severe vacuity that larger doses should be considered. \ \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Yehuda, I have in my notes that one doses Wu Wei Zi to astringe, functions one and two from 1.5 to 3 grams, but as a tonic the dose is from 6 to 9. Sorry I don't have a source for you on this as is the case with many of my notes clinical. Sincerely, David Toone, L.Ac. On Jun 30, 2008, at 11:48 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > Can anyone tell me why the maximum recommended dosage for Wu Wei Zi > is only 6g. It is such a such a wonderful yin, jing and shen > nourishing herb-- I would think in cases of severe vacuity that > larger doses should be considered. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Interesting, in the Chinese Medicinals textbook we used in class (published in 2002) the dosage is listed as 3-6g, while in an older textbook (1988) it is listed as 3-10g... ! What gives? The contraindications listed are the same as Gloria wrote, (except internal *repletion* heat) and are the same in both books. I noticed that in formulas the amount of Wu Wei Zi is listed in 'kernels' (ie Sheng Mai San) or litres (Xiao Qing Long Tang) rather then liang/taels... so the current dosage recommendation could have more to do with anthropological research then clinical research Regards, Henry , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > > Dear colleagues, > > Can anyone tell me why the maximum recommended dosage for Wu Wei Zi is only 6g. It is such a such a wonderful yin, jing and shen nourishing herb-- I would think in cases of severe vacuity that larger doses should be considered. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi Yehuda, Assuming you can even find Jilin wu wei zi (over $22/lb - dark purple) and not the southern style berries (bright reddish purple - around $9/lb), Dr. Kang and Dr. Liang where I work are very careful to stick with a small dosage in their formulas. I've not been able to satisfactorily translate their expressions to my own satisfaction. However, they note that with anything more than a refined and small dosage there is some danger of shifting the " power " or " direction " of the formula and injuring what was intended to be strengthened or nourished. They were particularly concerned about injury to the liver and possibly to the kidney. Perhaps someone on list can articulate this better than I. Dr. Liang was just now struggling to articulate her thoughts on the five directions of the herb and what problems might arise from a large dosage. Drop by Dr. Kang's clinic sometime if you are in SF sometime and see if you can get a more complete answer. I'd like to hear it, too. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen ----------------------- Dear colleagues, Can anyone tell me why the maximum recommended dosage for Wu Wei Zi is only 6g. It is such a such a wonderful yin, jing and shen nourishing herb-- I would think in cases of severe vacuity that larger doses should be considered. \ \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 From a practical stand-point, wu wei zi has a very strong taste. Even 5 fruits will find its way through a decoction (wu wei zi = 5 tastes) After 2 qian, it makes the decoction taste way too sour. Also, it is highly acidic, so this may be an issue for those with hyper-gastric acidity. ? K. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:05 AM, David Toone <davidetoone wrote: > Yehuda, > > I have in my notes that one doses Wu Wei Zi to astringe, functions > one and two from 1.5 to 3 grams, but as a tonic the dose is from 6 to > 9. Sorry I don't have a source for you on this as is the case with > many of my notes clinical. > > Sincerely, > > David Toone, L.Ac. > > > On Jun 30, 2008, at 11:48 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > Can anyone tell me why the maximum recommended dosage for Wu Wei Zi > > is only 6g. It is such a such a wonderful yin, jing and shen > > nourishing herb-- I would think in cases of severe vacuity that > > larger doses should be considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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