Horror. Was 7 year old with endocarditis

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Hi all, I just had a thought about this whole discussion.

I wondered what this list felt regarding master-disciple relationships? My

personal take below.

There are popular misconceptions about master-disciple relationships, no doubt

exacerbated by well-known cases where the relationship became poisoned and

public. One of the misconceptions I believe we have is that the disciple,

through submission, relinquishes all power. This is not true. Submission is a

form of demonstrating love and respect; it is identical to the way one submits

to one's parents (in a healthy parent-child relationship). A parent or master

has no illusions about the child or student breaking away from and (hopefully)

surpassing them one day - in fact, this is the goal. The child or student, in a

healthy relationship, never loses touch with their autonomy and personal power,

they will simply ///choose/// not to impose themselves on their parent or chosen

mentor without good reason.

In my experience, a good master / mentor has good boundaries, and while they

might not have tolerance for bs on the part of the student, and may be

unforgiving of less-than-student's-best, they will be appreciative of a student

who confronts them with class when a disagreement crops up. I've never had any

of my teachers be upset with me if I've " argued " with them while treating myself

with class, and treating them with class. I've never felt, conversely, that it

would be right for a master or mentor to treat /me/ with class. Care and honesty

yes, but class no.

It seems to me that alarms should be rung in potentially serious cases, and

even if the " target " of the alarm has been " misjudged " , there is no doubt in my

mind that someone else on the list will benefit tremendously from witnessing the

exchange.

I wonder if similar attitudes would be workable in this case. I believe at

least some of us can imagine the trouble that our teachers have helped to keep

us out of (when we've listened).

It has been my impression that the best students don't get sidelined by

criticism - all that is necessary is to not shoot the messenger and get the

point.

What a horror to imagine a patient dying as a result of carelessness!

 

Hugo

 

 

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