Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Emmanuel, We haven't spoken for a while directly, but you have whet my palate with your scholarship, thoughfulness and humor. For all the above, I thank you. Please educate me on how to access and use med pub and med pub central. Often when I try to access articles from Google Scholar I am denied access to the complete text of the article, without subscribing to the given journal. I must be missing something. All the best Yehuda Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen wrote: Artemis, Thank you! Between you and me, I'm glad there's at least one other biologist on this list. In recent years I've taken the position that I absolutely will not take questions from students or fellow list members who cite Dr. Mercola and information from similar lists. We have Pub Med and Pub Med Central (fully open access) now in the 21st Century. I hope a fair percentage of any list can step up to the integrity of both Western and Oriental sciences. Regarding the autoimmune madness, we all have cellular inclusions bodies from our entertaining Western diets preserved with tonnage of nitrites and the wide world of preservatives. Consider the " normal " childhood of Cocoa Puffs, MacDonald's milkshakes, the infinite variety of snack foods, processed meats and super sized Cokes. That and the self-enforced immobility of TV and computers. No sky and lots of intracellular inclusion bodies by way of preservatives. I'll be waiting for the Pub Med Central review papers in support of the Western science, or someone's conspiracy theory. But I'll pass on Mercola. Respectfully and gratefully, Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Yehuda, Here is Pubmed Central: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ This is different from the regular Medline or PubMed sites in that all of the journal articles are " open access " . They are intended to be copied and distributed (in their complete format). Read this page to get an idea of how it works: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/about/intro.html I feel it's truly brillilant. Regarding regular Medline or PubMed, you need to gather articles with abstracts in order to understand a given subject matter. The first several pages of any Medline search functions as a bibliography of authors and titles. You can take the knowledge you gain from a Medline search of abstracts and go to Pubmed Central and find review papers. These are truly brilliant summaries of the literature that invite both more research as well as provide us college professors with addenda to our textbooks. Also the footnotes and bibliography citations are all hyperlinked (!!!). On the CMN list I've offered you a review paper called " The Matrix Preloaded " that reviews metabolic syndrome, diabetes type II and so on. I love this paper. See: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1175853 or http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1175853 & blo\ btype=pdf Bon Appetit Emmanuel Segmen ----------------- Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Emmanuel, > > We haven't spoken for a while directly, but you have whet my palate with your scholarship, > thoughfulness and humor. For all the above, I thank you. Please educate me on how to access and use med pub and med pub central. Often when I try to access articles from Google Scholar I am denied access to the complete text of the article, without subscribing to the given journal. I must be missing something. > > All the best > > > Yehuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hi Yehuda, Here's a paper and a website that makes The Matrix Preloaded paper easier to understand and access. It is the very first review paper at the open access (!!) Cardiovascular Diabetology website that looks at the aging process in both type I and type II diabetic patients. http://www.cardiab.com/content/1/1/1 - How Hyperglycemia Promotes Atherosclerosis: Molecular Mechanisms. This paper notes what results from weeks to months of unresolved hyperglycemia - production of " advanced glycosylated end products " , also called AGEs (a little molecular biology humor there.) It also indicts anyone with a little roll of fat over their belt to consider the issue that they might be at least a little insulin resistant (prone to eat to fullness) due to refined carbs in the diet. This article also makes some of the intriguing metabolic syndrome figures in The Matrix Preloaded paper more accessible. BTW, glycosylated just means that glucose will bind reversibly to receptors in the arteries. After weeks to months of hyperglycemia, the binding is permanent. I consider the content of both of these papers absolutely basic biology knowledge for my students in human anatomy and physiology. Long live cooked vegetables and fresh fruits = complex carbohydrates. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen Hi Yehuda, Here is Pubmed Central: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ This is different from the regular Medline or PubMed sites in that all of the journal articles are " open access " . They are intended to be copied and distributed (in their complete format). Read this page to get an idea of how it works: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/about/intro.html I feel it's truly brillilant. Regarding regular Medline or PubMed, you need to gather articles with abstracts in order to understand a given subject matter. The first several pages of any Medline search functions as a bibliography of authors and titles. You can take the knowledge you gain from a Medline search of abstracts and go to Pubmed Central and find review papers. These are truly brilliant summaries of the literature that invite both more research as well as provide us college professors with addenda to our textbooks. Also the footnotes and bibliography citations are all hyperlinked (!!!). On the CMN list I've offered you a review paper called " The Matrix Preloaded " that reviews metabolic syndrome, diabetes type II and so on. I love this paper. See: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1175853 or http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1175853 & blo\ btype=pdf Bon Appetit Emmanuel Segmen ----------------- Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Emmanuel, > > We haven't spoken for a while directly, but you have whet my palate with your scholarship, > thoughfulness and humor. For all the above, I thank you. Please educate me on how to access and use med pub and med pub central. Often when I try to access articles from Google Scholar I am denied access to the complete text of the article, without subscribing to the given journal. I must be missing something. > > All the best > > > Yehuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 As some resources and citations must surely be considered and questioned in context, perhaps so at times must the enterprise of science itself. I respectfully submit this link to a 2006 article by Jonathan Treasure, who raises interesting historical points and some analysis of MEDLINE. http://www.herbological.com/images/downloads/HH2.pdf Regards, Jamey Kowalski - Emmanuel Segmen Chinese Medicine Monday, May 05, 2008 7:15 PM Re: accessing scholarly articles Hi Yehuda, Here's a paper and a website that makes The Matrix Preloaded paper easier to understand and access. It is the very first review paper at the open access (!!) Cardiovascular Diabetology website that looks at the aging process in both type I and type II diabetic patients. http://www.cardiab.com/content/1/1/1 - How Hyperglycemia Promotes Atherosclerosis: Molecular Mechanisms. This paper notes what results from weeks to months of unresolved hyperglycemia - production of " advanced glycosylated end products " , also called AGEs (a little molecular biology humor there.) It also indicts anyone with a little roll of fat over their belt to consider the issue that they might be at least a little insulin resistant (prone to eat to fullness) due to refined carbs in the diet. This article also makes some of the intriguing metabolic syndrome figures in The Matrix Preloaded paper more accessible. BTW, glycosylated just means that glucose will bind reversibly to receptors in the arteries. After weeks to months of hyperglycemia, the binding is permanent. I consider the content of both of these papers absolutely basic biology knowledge for my students in human anatomy and physiology. Long live cooked vegetables and fresh fruits = complex carbohydrates. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen Hi Yehuda, Here is Pubmed Central: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ This is different from the regular Medline or PubMed sites in that all of the journal articles are " open access " . They are intended to be copied and distributed (in their complete format). Read this page to get an idea of how it works: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/about/intro.html I feel it's truly brillilant. Regarding regular Medline or PubMed, you need to gather articles with abstracts in order to understand a given subject matter. The first several pages of any Medline search functions as a bibliography of authors and titles. You can take the knowledge you gain from a Medline search of abstracts and go to Pubmed Central and find review papers. These are truly brilliant summaries of the literature that invite both more research as well as provide us college professors with addenda to our textbooks. Also the footnotes and bibliography citations are all hyperlinked (!!!). On the CMN list I've offered you a review paper called " The Matrix Preloaded " that reviews metabolic syndrome, diabetes type II and so on. I love this paper. See: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1175853 or http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=1175853 & blo\ btype=pdf Bon Appetit Emmanuel Segmen ----------------- Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Emmanuel, > > We haven't spoken for a while directly, but you have whet my palate with your scholarship, > thoughfulness and humor. For all the above, I thank you. Please educate me on how to access and use med pub and med pub central. Often when I try to access articles from Google Scholar I am denied access to the complete text of the article, without subscribing to the given journal. I must be missing something. > > All the best > > > Yehuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Yup. " Scientism " is often how the Chinese administration in China embraces our Western science. When my boss at Min Tong Herbs used to go from Taiwan to China in the early 1990s representing Chinese herbs, he felt at great personal risk. And he was also greatly disrespected by the Chinese scientists who couldn't believe his naivety in " believing " in Chinese medicine. The Chinese haven't softened much in recent years. Nice article. I, too, was a student of Kuhn's Structures of Scientific Revolution back in the 1960s. My thesis here is that Chinese medicine would do well to do Chinese medicine rather than WM conspiracy theories. CM is a huge and wonderful enterprise. WM would do well to do WM. When people seek authentication from another paradigm, they basically give up their own paradigm. Attempting to prove CM with WM techniques will only get you WM. Disproving WM with conspiracy theories is neither WM nor CM. I personally think that CM is the larger enterprise. WM is a relative newcomer. However, using Thomas Kuhn's text to bludgeon PubMed and PubMed Central in the name of scientism is pretty funny. I was a philosophy student before I was a science student, and I agree strongly with Kuhn's insights. I can say the same for Jonathan Treasure. Likewise people educated in CM looking for conspiracy theories in WM will probably do themselves more harm than good. Goodness know that PubMed Central is perhaps worse than Medline. Duhhhh! It's the government. No wonder it's open access. Those tricky CIA agents. Oh, well, if I'm going to get cyber-stoned here, I may as well select the really best stones on your behalf. Here's one that has got some nice heft to it. It's looking at T-cell vaccination as a therapy to treat MS. Wasn't that the topic of discussion? Aaaand it's a dot gov site. Possibly something from DARPA. Colloquium Paper: Therapeutic Vaccines: Realities of Today and Hopes for Tomorrow: Autoimmune concepts of multiple sclerosis as a basis for selective immunotherapy: From pipe dreams to (therapeutic) pipelines Reinhard Hohlfeld and Hartmut Wekerle Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2004 October 5; 101(Suppl 2): 14599-14606. doi: 10.1073/pnas.0404874101. PMCID: PMC521993 http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez & artid=521993 Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen --------- Re: Re: accessing scholarly articles As some resources and citations must surely be considered and questioned in context, perhaps so at times must the enterprise of science itself. I respectfully submit this link to a 2006 article by Jonathan Treasure, who raises interesting historical points and some analysis of MEDLINE. http://www.herbological.com/images/downloads/HH2.pdf Regards, Jamey Kowalski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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