Multiple Sclerosis and TCM Pattern Diagnosis

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But clearly, what we are seeing is that the once external heat pathogen becomes

internal when innoculated

into the body and then, " incorporated " into the genome as happens with parts, or

inside macrophages, or trapped in the lymph.Any viral proteins, any of the

proteins period, any contamination has the potential of being incorporated into

the genome.Mutation which occurs especially under the duress of presence of

toxic factors, internal stress and external perniculous influences.What we know

from the research out there is that so much oxidative damage is done locally at

the site of innoculation and then affected down channels from the site of

innoculation.Research is showing just for one example, that the blue grey

foreign body of the adjuvant used in vaccines (aluminum hydroxide) is carried

away from the site of penetration and still at the site where cancers form!

Besides my doctorate degree and working as a medical profession for over 20

years, I am also completed with an addition Masters in TCVM and what would be

equal to a Masters in Veterinary Homoepathy, so I see very well thank you and

see that what is happening in the veterinary field that most of the internal

medical cases we treat are in actuality vaccine induced disease.Many trained in

allopathic medicine can't see this, the reason is they are not taught to look,

rather to blame any possible reaction on that lame statement that " your genes

are responsible for your child's autism " .

THere are no safety studies completed and animal studies that were funded are

finding out there is a link, between the production of auto-antibodies and

vaccines administrated, autoantibodies did not occur in the non vaccinated

animals. Glickman is now looking at thyroid disease and other auto-immune

diseases, we see so much of this in over vaccinated animals, along with diabetes

and then less Cushing's and then Addison's but all traceable to vaccine

administration and the onset of disease.ALbeit chronic disease but disease none

the less.Sincerely,Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

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snowmans_shadow: Sun, 4 May 2008 03:03:04 +0000Re: TCM -

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Okay this could all jib with my original post and my reply to Zacharyin post

29110. The Heat Toxin of the vaccine would fall into theclassification of

External Pathogen.JameyChinese Medicine ,

Patricia Jordan<coastalcatclinic wrote:>> > Vaccines are generally

considered as Heat Toxin. In TCVM, there aretwo major side-effects of

vaccination: Liver Yin/Blood Deficiency andPhlegm accumulation. > > 1) Liver

Yin/Blood Deficiency> When Heat toxin enters the body, it is the Liver Yin that

isconfronting and trying to cool off the Heat and also relieve toxins. Astrong

individual of sufficient Liver Yin mild vaccination programshould be NO problems

as Liver Yin is strong enough to detoxify, clearheat and remove toxins.

Consuming Liver Yin is able to recover andregenerate from Kidney Yin (or Kidney

Jing) and Liver Blood.> > I have found that majority of cases of acute

vaccination reactionhave some degree of Liver Yin/Blood Deficiency or Kid Jing

Deficiency.Over-vaccination program (too excessive Heat Toxin) damages Liver

Yin,and then Liver Blood (during the processing when the Liver Blood

isreinforced for the damaged Liver Yin), gradually leading to BloodDeficiency.

The Liver is the storage of Blood. > > 2) Phlegm accumulation> > Excessive Heat

in the body boils body fluids, gradually resulting inPhlegm. Accumulation of

Phlegm leads to lumps, masses, or even cancer. > Sincerely,Patricia Jordan

DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

 

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http://www.vaccines.net/newpage114.htm, also yes, there is alot of references on

dr mercolas site

and his site is endless, go into the papers and then into the papers references

and you will find out as did I,

why hasn't the dots been connected before now! Another site is the one that has

much of the animal vaccine work www.treshanley.com/cic/vaccines.html and then

the many websites will also link the research. I have had to get some of the

papers from Israel, from our two main veterinary vaccine researchers, Dr. Ron

Schultz and Dr. Jean Dodds, then look at the references section of their work

and spent countless hours in the library in Pub Med and in Medline. I don't

think I can forward these references through this site but can forward directly

to you if you wish.Sincerely,Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

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snowmans_shadow: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:41:26 +0000Re: TCM -

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Patricia,I want to clarify how I am reading your post because I feel less than

clear on your supporting information.You are asserting that vaccines are the

major contributor to auto-immune disorders. You stated that you are " privy to

vaccine research and private information coming from a pathologist " , then stated

later that " no long term studies exonerating vaccines from any of the

accusations " . Are you saying that there are indeed long-term studies that

support your claim that vaccine causes increased incidence of auto-immune

disorders? Does Dr. Mercola have published work that you are referencing? Please

pick the best source material you feel supports this claim because I am very

interested in learning more about this.You also write, " Anything in the

vaccines, injected into the body have the potenti[al] and will most certainly,

develop autoantibodies, the neuroinflamation and demyelination (as in the GSD

Degenerative myelopathy is in fact an autoimmune disease). " I would like to know

your best reference material showing that the " body will most certainly develop

an auto-immune response " because I find the idea very interesting.I am also

interested in hearing how you connect vaccination to Blood Vacuity from earlier

statements/posts. What is the Traditional Chinese Medical mechanism that causes

vaccination to induce Blood Vacuity?I will say that autoimmune disorders were

present in the human population long before immunization was even theorized. In

fact the first case recorded that is now believed to be M.S. occurred in 1421

ad. The increase in incidence of auto-immune disorders, I feel, could be related

to your assertation, but not the only reason auto-immune occurs. Thanks for your

time,Jamey Johnston, C.AcChinese Medicine ,

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote:>> > I have so many references, and

the work is out there abeit the connections have to be made. Ie, the Townsend

Newsletters November 2003 on MS and Neurologic Disorders, look also at the great

letter to the Editor about the entire situation from Dr. Barbara Brewitt.> I am

privy to many vaccine reaserch articles and private information coming from

pathologist, immunologist.> For the information from even Dr. Mercola's site on

neuroinflamation and vaccines, vaccine contents and fillers> and his articles

are always listing references.One of the articles recently in the Hayward Study

dont by Dr. Glickman from Perdue that showed only vaccinated animals developed

auto antibodies, and to what you ask? our entire support structures,

myelin,lamelin,cardiolin,collagen, etc. This is the most disturbing becasue

there simply are NO SAFETY studies done on vaccines and NO LONG TERM studies

exonerating vaccines from any of the accusations coking out of the questions we

now have simply knowing now how mammailian immune systems work.Anything in the

vaccines, injected into the body have the potention and will most certainly,>

develop autoantibodies, the neuroinflamation and demyelination (as in the GSD

Degenerative myelopathy is> in fact an autoimmune disease) The vasculitis that

results following vaccine administration is causing a lupoid

onchodystrophy.Atopy is cause by the increased production of IgE, and therefore

atopy patients should not even be allery tested within 3 months of a

vaccine.Vaccines are simply not that safe protector from disease anyone was lead

to believe, they are in fact the cause of genetic mutations within our genome

and the reason for most of internal disease.Your disease depends on which

tissues your body makes autantibodies to.> I would have to contact you off list

to send all the papers, pictures etc.On this Monday both Dr. Rebecca Carley and

I will be on the Winning Life Through Pain about MS and Fibromyalgia, this would

be a good listen for those wanting the MD perspective of how this is playing out

in human medicine.We have been blind and ignorant in veteirnary medicine to the

fact that vaccines are responsible for everything from cancer to autoimmune

disease to skin disease to degenerative hip dysplasia.The way a breed gets the

disease is through genetic manipulation, which is done via vaccination.We have

Guillan Barre like cases in the animals which I recognize now and these are

always poor animals over vaccinated with these toxic casseroles that we call

vaccines, not well thought out and as Dr. Harris Coulter says, will be look at

in the future both in shame and horror.Medical hubris has its consequences, its

collateral damage.Sincerely,Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Z'ev and All:

 

The Pulsediagnosis.com web site has two articles, one on MS and

another on latent heat. They can be be found at:

http://www.pulsediagnosis.com/herbalmedicine.html

 

Warmly,

 

Will

 

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Chinese Medicine ,

<zrosenbe wrote:

>

> There has been some discussion both in China and the west about latent

> qi theory being applicable to such situations, the need to outthrust

> evil toxins from the ying and xue aspects with such prescriptions as

> qing ying tang. The best time to treat a vaccinated patient would be

> as close to the original vaccination as possible, not several years

> later..

>

>

> On May 3, 2008, at 8:28 AM, Brian Harasha wrote:

>

> > If vaccines are causing these mutations/autoantibodies/diseases my

> > question

> > becomes how do we treat such an insult? If someone does get a vaccine

> > induced disease do they have any chance of eliminating it? I am

> > especially

> > interested in TCM approaches but anything that works would be good

> > to know.

> > It sounds like it would be some very deep work, long term, slow

> > progress,

> > changing things at a very deep level.

> >

> >