ching wan hung burn ointment for poison ivy?

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a patient reports that her nephew used the ching wan hung burn ointment (the

goey stuff) for poison ivy and it was gone in 3 days. can anyone verify or

relate other similar experiences with this chinese patent remedy?

 

sesame oil, beeswax, myrrha, dang gui, hong hua, du yu, mastic (pistacia

lentiscus), chaenomeles fr.

 

it interested: these are all blood movers. i don't see the clear heat herbs

in here, yet its a fantastic burn ointment. blood movers for poison ivy,

hmm. . .

 

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We use it regurally for cold sores. It brings it up to a big blister within a

day, but then heals quickly. It seems that the cold sores come back less freq,

and less severe each time. Some of the herbs " clear heat " which can also in

some cases be read as " kills virus and bacteria " in western terms. Very nice

little formula.

 

Ron

 

 

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i can testify to ching wan hung for poison ivy! i am highly allergic to poison

ivy and use myself as a guinea pig yearly. last years patches of

experimentation showed ching wan hung second only to wan hua oil for itch relief

and fast healing.

this year's experiment at preventing break-out once exposed is so far

successful... ban lan gen chong ji daily, high doses of emergen-c and

homeopathic combos.

clorox directly on the skin if i know i have touched it also works.

any other thoughts welcome.

in peace...

sydnie bryant, l.ac.

wholistic acupuncture

pittsburgh

 

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Hmmm. Anyone ever try it for shingles?

 

 

 

Ron Baddorf <rbaddorf wrote: We use it regurally for cold sores.

It brings it up to a big blister within a day, but then heals quickly. It seems

that the cold sores come back less freq, and less severe each time. Some of the

herbs " clear heat " which can also in some cases be read as " kills virus and

bacteria " in western terms. Very nice little formula.

 

Ron

 

 

[Guest guest]

interesting. do you apply it topically to legions inside the mouth? or are

you refering to ext legions on the lips?

 

i'm wondering what the clear heat herbs that you refer to in the rx? as i

look at the list of ingredients, i'm seeing mostly blood movers, which i

find intrguing in a burn cream.

 

seasme oil, bees wax, myrrha, dang gui, di yu, fr. chaeonomeles.

 

kath b

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Ron Baddorf <rbaddorf wrote:

 

> We use it regurally for cold sores. It brings it up to a big blister

> within a day, but then heals quickly. It seems that the cold sores come back

> less freq, and less severe each time. Some of the herbs " clear heat " which

> can also in some cases be read as " kills virus and bacteria " in western

> terms. Very nice little formula.

>

> Ron

>

>

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sybil:

 

i'm not familiar with wan hua oil or ban lan gen chong ji. could you

describe their uses, ingredients, functions?

 

thanks,

 

kath b

 

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:59 PM, sydnie bryant <Sydnieb wrote:

 

> i can testify to ching wan hung for poison ivy! i am highly allergic to

> poison ivy and use myself as a guinea pig yearly. last years patches of

> experimentation showed ching wan hung second only to wan hua oil for itch

> relief and fast healing.

> this year's experiment at preventing break-out once exposed is so far

> successful... ban lan gen chong ji daily, high doses of emergen-c and

> homeopathic combos.

> clorox directly on the skin if i know i have touched it also works.

> any other thoughts welcome.

> in peace...

> sydnie bryant, l.ac.

> wholistic acupuncture

> pittsburgh

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Sydnie,

 

The irritant in PI is carried in an oil. You might try carrying a

small bottle of liquid soap (I prefer Dr. Bronner's Castile Soaps)

with you on your excursions. Once you believe yourself exposed,

slather some liquid soap on the areas of concern. When you get where

your going (or done doing what your doing), simply wash off the (now

dried) soap from the area...the oily PI irritant will be trapped in

the soap and be washed away as well.

 

For those less sensative, simple direct application of the soap and

wash-off once home should suffice.

 

Best wishes,

Mark Zaranski, Ph.D.

East Wind ACupuncture, Inc.

Chinese Medicine , sydnie bryant

<Sydnieb wrote:

>

> i can testify to ching wan hung for poison ivy! i am highly

allergic to poison ivy and use myself as a guinea pig yearly. last

years patches of experimentation showed ching wan hung second only to

wan hua oil for itch relief and fast healing.

> this year's experiment at preventing break-out once exposed is so

far successful... ban lan gen chong ji daily, high doses of emergen-c

and homeopathic combos.

> clorox directly on the skin if i know i have touched it also works.

> any other thoughts welcome.

> in peace...

> sydnie bryant, l.ac.

> wholistic acupuncture

> pittsburgh

>

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We use it topically for the cold sores on the lips. This is what I got out of

Bensky's.

 

 

 

 

 

Huang yao zi

Tuber Dioscorea Bulbiferae

Dissipates nodules and reduces masses: for goiter. Also used for many kinds

of cancers, especially those involving the esophagus, stomach, uterus, and

colon. Cools the blood and stops bleeding: for such symptoms as vomiting blood,

coughing up blood, and uterine bleeding. Reduces toxicity of toxic swellings:

topically for sores, snakebite, and dog bite.

 

Ma you

Sesamum indicum seed-oil

Nourishes and fortifies the Liver and Kidneys: for yin deficiency of the

Liver and Kidneys with such symptoms as blurred vision, tinnitus, and dizziness.

Also used to help patients recover after sever illnesses. Nourishes the blood

and extinguishes wind: for headaches, dizziness, and numbness due to blood or

yin deficiency. Moistens and lubricates the Intestines: for constipation due to

dry Intestines of blood deficiency.

 

Ban bian lian

 

 

Herba Lobelia Chinensis cum Radice

Promotes urination and reduces edema: primarily for edema (often floating

edema) and ascites. Also used in treating end-stage schistosomiasis. Cools the

blood and reduces toxicity: this is one of the herbs of choice for treating

poisonous snakebites and wasp stings. It may be used internally or applied

topically. Also used for fire toxin patterns such as tonsillitis.

 

Mo yao

 

 

Myrrha

Invigorates the blood and dispels blood stasis, reduces swelling and

alleviates pain: for problems due to blood stasis, including pain from trauma,

sores, carbuncles, swelling, immobile abdominal masses, painful obstruction,

chest pain, abdominal pain, and amenorrhea. Promotes healing: used topically

to promote the healing of chronic nonhealing sores.

 

Dang gui

 

 

Radix Angelicae Sinensis

Tonifies the blood and regulates the menses: for patterns of blood

deficiency with such symptoms as a pallid, ashen complexion, tinnitus, blurred

vision, and palpitations. Also very commonly used for blood deficiency

associated with menstrual disorders such as irregular menstruation, amenorrhea,

dysmonorrhea, etc. Invigorates and harmonizes the blood and disperses cold: an

important herb for stopping pain due to blood stasis. Commonly used for

abdominal pain, traumatic injury and carbuncles due to blood stasis, especially

when there is also cold from deficiency. Also used in the treatment of blood

deficiency with chronic wind-damp painful obstruction. Moistens the Intestines

and unblocks the bowels: for dry Intestines due to blood deficiency. Reduces

swelling, expels pus, generates flesh, and alleviates pain: used in treating

sores and abscesses where its ability to tonify and invigorate the blood leads

to improvement.

 

Bing pian

 

 

Borneol

Aromatically opens the orifices and revives the spirit: used primarily for

various types of fainting and convulsions. Clears heat, alleviates pain,

dissipates nodules, and alleviates itching: applied topically for pain and

swelling of the throat, skin diseases such as sores and scabies, and eye

diseases such as photophobia or excessive tearing. Commonly used in

topically-applied powders to regenerate flesh.

 

Mu gua

 

 

Fructus Chaenomelis

Relaxes the sinews and unblocks the channels: for damp painful obstruction

in the extremities, especially with severe, cramping pain and weakness in the

lower back and lower extremities. This is one of the more effective herbs for

relaxing the sinew. Harmonizes the Stomach and transforms dampness: for

abdominal pain, spasms, and cramping of the calves, and edema due to leg qi.

Reduces food stagnation: for indigestion.

 

Di yu

 

 

Radix Sanguisorbae Officinalis

Cools the blood and stops bleeding: especially for bleeding in the lower

burner due to damp-heat with such symptoms as blood in the stool, bleeding

hemorrhoids, bloody dysenterial disorders, and excessive uterine bleeding. Also

used for vomiting blood and nosebleed. Clears heat and generates flesh:

applied topically for sores, ulcers, and injuries from burns. It both reduces

the oozing by holding in the fluids, and promotes the generation of new flesh.

 

Ru xiang

 

 

 

 

Gummi Olibanum (frankincense)

Invigorates the blood and promotes the movement of qi: for traumatic pain

arising from blood stasis, as well as the early stages of carbucles, sores,

swellings, and pain. Also for chest, epigastric, or abdominal pain due to blood

stasis. Relaxes the sinews, invigorates the channels, and alleviates pain: for

wind-dampness painful obstruction, rigidity, and spasms. Reduces swelling and

generates flesh: applied topically as an ointment or powder to reduce swelling,

generate flesh, alleviate pain, and promote healing in sores, carbuncles, and

traumatic injury. Also for pain, redness, and swelling of the gums, mouth, and

throat.

 

Hong hua

 

 

Flos Carthami Tinctorii

Invigorates the blood and unblocks menstruation: for blood stasis patterns

with amenorrhea, abdominal pain, post partum dizziness, lochioschesis, and

abdominal masses. Dispels blood stasis and alleviates pain: for blood stasis

wounds and pain, nonsuppurative sores, carbuncles, and dark purplish erythema.

Also for incomplete expression of the rash of measles or painful obstruction of

the chest due to blood stasis.

 

 

 

 

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From Mayway Corp.

 

Functions:

Promotes the Healing of Sores and Burns, Alleviates Pain, Clears Heat,

Invigorates the Blood

 

Indications:

External injury to the skin from burns or scalds from electrical, chemical,

solar and radiation sources. Useful for all types of burns from sunburn to

severe burns with blistering, redness, necrosis and pain. Also used for painful,

thrombosed or inflamed hemorrhoids and anal fissure, chronic diabetic or

tropical ulcers and bedsores. May also assist with relief from eczema, psoriasis

and dermatitis. Useful for acupuncturists using moxa to hold moxa pellets and

prevent blistering.

 

Standard Dosage:

Apply to affected area as needed.

 

Clinical Dosage:

For minor scalds and burns apply directly to affected area after wound is

cleaned. The area may be covered with sterile gauze and changed daily. For deep

wounds and burns a thick layer can be applied daily and covered with a sterile

gauze. The wound should be cleaned daily or as necessary. Apply locally for

hemorrhoids and anal lesions.

 

Ingredients:

Sesamum indicum seed-oil, Apis cerana (beeswax), Commiphora myrrha resin,

Angelica sinensis root, Carthamus tinctorius flower, Boswellia carterii resin,

Chaenomeles lagenaria fruit, Sanguisorba officinalis root. - Ma you, Feng li, Mo

yao, Dang gui, Hong hua, Ru xiang, Mu gua, Di yu.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have used a topical application for poison oak many times that is

very effective:

 

Get some French green clay from the health food store. Open a few

capsules of Sai Mei An (an internal ulcer remedy). Mix the two powders

together, add just enough water to make a thick mud, and spread it

over the rash. The itching will stop very quickly, and as the clay

dries it will draw the oils out of the rash. It will also form a

barrier that prevents clothing or blankets from irritating the rash.

It is especially useful at bedtime, since people tend to scratch the

rash while they are asleep, which makes it worse.

 

In a severe case, it is essential to use internal herbs as well,

especially herbs that clear damp heat and heat in the blood.

 

- Bill Schoenbart

[Guest guest]

bill: this is an interesting poison ivy tx.

 

here's a few questions i have about it:

 

are you doing a 50/50 solution with the clay and herbs? in other words,

how much clay to a few capsules of herbs? what supply co's have the sai mei

an you mention? can other clays be used, or is there something specific

about french clay for poison ivy? i'm thinking you could add granulated

herbal powders if additional clear heat herbs are needed, yes? would you

cover the plaster with gauze or something?

 

kath b

 

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:30 PM, bill_schoenbart <plantmed2 wrote:

 

> I have used a topical application for poison oak many times that is

> very effective:

>

> Get some French green clay from the health food store. Open a few

> capsules of Sai Mei An (an internal ulcer remedy). Mix the two powders

> together, add just enough water to make a thick mud, and spread it

> over the rash. The itching will stop very quickly, and as the clay

> dries it will draw the oils out of the rash. It will also form a

> barrier that prevents clothing or blankets from irritating the rash.

> It is especially useful at bedtime, since people tend to scratch the

> rash while they are asleep, which makes it worse.

>

> In a severe case, it is essential to use internal herbs as well,

> especially herbs that clear damp heat and heat in the blood.

>

> - Bill Schoenbart

>

>

>

 

 

 

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