Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I was speaking with a russian nutritionist, and she said the reason many people don't benefit from herb and supplementation, is because if their body's ph is below 6.3, than they are unable to absorb them. Does anyone have any information on this subject? I know it is complex, but any basic to advanced information is appreciated. Even the yin/yang/ acid/base concepts. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Hi, The idea that pH <6.3 = " many " who don't benefit from herb and supplementation is unfounded. The _vast majority_ (dare I say 99%?) of the people I treat respond well to herbs. If someone is not responding, it is because they are very weak and have a very big problem, or, most likely, the herbs are being misapplied. Most likely she is using the nutritionist angle which is to give ONE herb at a time (with a b-complex vitamin) according to western disease differentiation. I can see why many people would not respond to that. Hugo ykcul_ritsym <ykcul_ritsym Chinese Medicine Thursday, 17 April, 2008 2:45:55 AM human ph and nutrition uptake I was speaking with a russian nutritionist, and she said the reason many people don't benefit from herb and supplementation, is because if their body's ph is below 6.3, than they are unable to absorb them. Does anyone have any information on this subject? I know it is complex, but any basic to advanced information is appreciated. Even the yin/yang/ acid/base concepts. Thanks _________ For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Thanks Hugo, I kind of agree with you, but I'm considering using a narrow ph strip for saliva at intake, just for research purposes. Down the line there may be some interesting correlations. I want to find definitive databases about the ph and illnesses out side of dietary recommendation. And for herbal supplementation,or tcm syndrome differentiation. I'm curious. Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: Hi, The idea that pH <6.3 = " many " who don't benefit from herb and supplementation is unfounded. The _vast majority_ (dare I say 99%?) of the people I treat respond well to herbs. If someone is not responding, it is because they are very weak and have a very big problem, or, most likely, the herbs are being misapplied. Most likely she is using the nutritionist angle which is to give ONE herb at a time (with a b-complex vitamin) according to western disease differentiation. I can see why many people would not respond to that. Hugo ykcul_ritsym <ykcul_ritsym Chinese Medicine Thursday, 17 April, 2008 2:45:55 AM human ph and nutrition uptake I was speaking with a russian nutritionist, and she said the reason many people don't benefit from herb and supplementation, is because if their body's ph is below 6.3, than they are unable to absorb them. Does anyone have any information on this subject? I know it is complex, but any basic to advanced information is appreciated. Even the yin/yang/ acid/base concepts. Thanks ________ For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 For a definitive understanding of ph in the body and it's regulation (intracellular, extracellular, blood, urine, etc) see any current medical physiology textbook. Medical Physiology by Guyton 10th edition is a standard text in the US. Cheers, Michael Chinese Medicine , mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote: > > Thanks Hugo, I kind of agree with you, but I'm considering using a narrow ph strip for saliva at intake, just for research purposes. Down the line there may be some interesting correlations. I want to find definitive databases about the ph and illnesses out side of dietary recommendation. And for herbal supplementation,or tcm syndrome differentiation. I'm curious. > > Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: > Hi, > > The idea that pH <6.3 = " many " who don't benefit from herb and supplementation is unfounded. The _vast majority_ (dare I say 99%?) of the people I treat respond well to herbs. If someone is not responding, it is because they are very weak and have a very big problem, or, most likely, the herbs are being misapplied. Most likely she is using the nutritionist angle which is to give ONE herb at a time (with a b-complex vitamin) according to western disease differentiation. I can see why many people would not respond to that. > > Hugo > > > ykcul_ritsym <ykcul_ritsym > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, 17 April, 2008 2:45:55 AM > human ph and nutrition uptake > > I was speaking with a russian nutritionist, and she said the reason > many people don't benefit from herb and supplementation, is because if > their body's ph is below 6.3, than they are unable to absorb them. > Does anyone have any information on this subject? I know it is > complex, but any basic to advanced information is appreciated. Even > the yin/yang/ acid/base concepts. Thanks > > ________ > For Good helps you make a difference > > http://uk.promotions./forgood/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Hi Myster, The body's " internal milieu " to quote Claude Bernard is the extracellular fluids that also includes blood plasma. It's pH range is tightly buffered to the range 7.35 to 7.45. All interstitial fluid or blood plasma ranges outside of that buffered range is viewed as a pathology of acidosis or alkalosis. The stomach's pH is generally below 3 while the intestinal pH is generally around 8. If something is metabolized, you pretty much have no choice but to absorb it. The diffusion gradient is intense. Metabolism from polymers to monomers is the key. There's pretty much no transport maximums by the end of the many meters of small intestine. Gives one pause regarding what one puts into one's mouth. If it can be metabolized, your blood will own it. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Hi Hugo, again I agree with -the right herbs for the correct diagnosis is the right tx principle. Also, e.g., I've heard of patients in hospitals being tube-fed herbs for resuscitation, and surgeons introducing purified, filtered herbal preparations into the body cavity before suturing, with success. I guess what I'm conceptualizing in, in a maybe juvenile revisionist way for myself, is the acid/yang/heat and base/yin/cool correlations, thinking of; cancer with its heat, the varied organ thermography, and looking for simple reliable observations that, like ear cracks or discolored spots, or range of motion tests, lead to a good vision of what is happening in a 'human' body. Maybe yin and yang is a comprehensive enough starting point, but I could use another lifetime to integrate molecular biology with traditional health concepts, to help me see what I am seeing. Sorry to be so obscure, and again I agree with you, but I feel like a beginner with a telescope looking for the unified field. Maybe I'm just not satisfied with my own knowledge /skill. I'm not. Part of it is my mind. My state of mind plays out in the hands and needle work. Anyway, I follow all the inherited wisdom of herbal use, as far as I can understand it. I trust it. Just fishing for feedback. Thanks Hugo. Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: Hey! I'm sure there would be interesting information, I just can't make the nutritionist's assertion jive with my own experience, that's all. I've found everyone responds to herbs in a trackable way, except for when I am misapplying. Hugo mystir <> Chinese Medicine Thursday, 17 April, 2008 11:07:43 AM Re: human ph and nutrition uptake Thanks Hugo, I kind of agree with you, but I'm considering using a narrow ph strip for saliva at intake, just for research purposes. Down the line there may be some interesting correlations. I want to find definitive databases about the ph and illnesses out side of dietary recommendation. And for herbal supplementation, or tcm syndrome differentiation. I'm curious. Hugo Ramiro <subincor > wrote: Hi, The idea that pH <6.3 = " many " who don't benefit from herb and supplementation is unfounded. The _vast majority_ (dare I say 99%?) of the people I treat respond well to herbs. If someone is not responding, it is because they are very weak and have a very big problem, or, most likely, the herbs are being misapplied. Most likely she is using the nutritionist angle which is to give ONE herb at a time (with a b-complex vitamin) according to western disease differentiation. I can see why many people would not respond to that. Hugo ykcul_ritsym <ykcul_ritsym@ > Thursday, 17 April, 2008 2:45:55 AM human ph and nutrition uptake I was speaking with a russian nutritionist, and she said the reason many people don't benefit from herb and supplementation, is because if their body's ph is below 6.3, than they are unable to absorb them. Does anyone have any information on this subject? I know it is complex, but any basic to advanced information is appreciated. Even the yin/yang/ acid/base concepts. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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