opinions on vaccinations for babies?

[Guest guest]

what is everyone's opinion on vaccinations? Is a delayed schedule better? Is

it better to split

vaccines? Is there much evidence that vaccines can cause other problems such as

immune

disorders? Does anyone have any personal experience with patients or family who

have had

reactions?

 

thanks,

Marie Sepich LAc

[Guest guest]

I participated on a vaccine talk show again today, go to www.drcarley.com and

realize that now the babies i japan are not vaccinated until after 3 years due

to the nonrefutable damage from vaccines. Here is my favorite quote from Dr.

James R. Shannon, former director of the NIH

he declared " the only safe vaccine is the one that is never used " . I just

finished a chapter on cancer for my TCM Professor's new book and I told him I

had to tell the truth or could not contribute, if I knew then what i know now

about vaccines, I would NEVER had vaccinated my son and would have home schooled

him or whatever I had to do to keep him from recivieng the injections that would

assault his immune system and mutate his DNA!Sincerely,Patricia Jordan

DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

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what is everyone's opinion on vaccinations? Is a delayed schedule better? Is it

better to split vaccines? Is there much evidence that vaccines can cause other

problems such as immune disorders? Does anyone have any personal experience with

patients or family who have had reactions?thanks,Marie Sepich LAc

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Marie...personally speaking, I refused to have my kids vaccinated and had to

fight school boards in two states to keep my kids vaccine free. My 'kids' are

now 37 and 34 and just fine, thank you except for corporate stress and short

bout with asthma as kids, they escaped the usual chicken pox, measles, etc.in

childhood. Sadly, I've witness numerous family members and friends children fall

miserably ill literally within hours of being vaccinated - including ADD and

autism, fevers, flu-like symtoms, pulmonary problems. My mother was convinced

the polio vaccine I was injected with in 1954 is what caused me to contract the

disease (and several others due to weakened immunity and to be currently

afflicted with so-called PPS or post polio syndrome.

 

Just sharing my personal experience for whatever it's worth. I encourage you

to research the topic thoroughly.

th

 

shamanist1 <shamanist1 wrote:

what is everyone's opinion on vaccinations? Is a delayed schedule

better? Is it better to split

vaccines? Is there much evidence that vaccines can cause other problems such as

immune

disorders? Does anyone have any personal experience with patients or family who

have had

reactions?

 

thanks,

Marie Sepich LAc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

 

First of all, a belated congrats on your new addition. Hope you have lots of

pleasure, lots of learning and lots of selflessness! It's also quite a change

from LA to NYC. Hope the transition has been smooth. Now to vaccinations. We

were fortunate, 24years ago, when our son was born, to have an incredible human

being as our pediatrician. Dr. Paul Fleiss remained completely neutral and

completely supportive of whatever decision we made on the vaccination issue.

Chana and I elected to not vaccinate our son, and we have no regrets in the

slightest. Besides the David vs. Goliath issue of feeling like everywhere we

turned and everyone we spoke to, we were pontificated to as being negligent,

uncaring, irrational and dogmatic parents, there is so much insidious politics

(read big money!) to this issue. Every time I hear a news report on say, NPR

about the brave medical pioneers who venture to the third world or the inner

city with syringe in hand I want to puke. There

was enough circumstatial evidence back then, that vaccinations not only

compromise the immune system, but are ticking timebombs waiting to explode in

the form of genetically altered DNA and autoimmune dysfunction. Though I tend to

mind my own business and keep my opinions to myself, (except when it comes to my

family and my patients who I view as my family) when I consider issues that

the big pharmaceutical and big food industries have sold as mainstream and

acceptable such as vaccinations, silver amalgam fillings, birth control

pills, Chemotherapy, fast food, MSG, Margarine, sugar and dairy, I make my

opinions known to the contrary.

 

Read the vaccination inserts to see just what goes into them. Smell the

absolutely putrid bowel movements of children after they are vaccinated. Read

the many stories of patents whose children underwent dramatic personality

changes, even becoming autistic--after being vaccinated. Let alone those who

became crippled or died. Consider the method of administration--sticking

putrified proteins deep into to blood stream and shocking, no traumatizing the

immune system, as opposed to a pathogen's normal portals of entry: the skin, the

ears, mouth, nostrils, eyes, etc.

 

And what about if an infant gets sick? Isn't that dangerous or terrible?

Most of the time I would say, so what, if a kid gets measles, mumps, chicken

pox, rubella, etc! The theory of exposing a child to a pathogen by giving them

an immunization vaccine, is essentially sound. But our job as parents is to

make sure that they are raised in a clean, hygienic environment, adn eat

properly, sleep properly, breath fresh air, drink fresh water, and get lots of

emotional support. Our job as practitioners of Chinese medicine is to apply

what we learned in school and what we learn as physicians to strengthen their

immune systems and expel the pathogen.

 

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU WANT TO VACCINATE YOUR PRECIOUS TREASURE?

 

Regards from sunny Caulifohkneeah,

 

Yehuda

 

 

PS. Twyla and Patricia are absolutely right on in my very humble opinion.

 

Hi Marie...personally speaking, I refused to have my kids vaccinated and had to

fight school boards in two states to keep my kids vaccine free. My 'kids' are

now 37 and 34 and just fine, thank you except for corporate stress and short

bout with asthma as kids, they escaped the usual chicken pox, measles, etc.in

childhood. Sadly, I've witness numerous family members and friends children fall

miserably ill literally within hours of being vaccinated - including ADD and

autism, fevers, flu-like symtoms, pulmonary problems. My mother was convinced

the polio vaccine I was injected with in 1954 is what caused me to contract the

disease (and several others due to weakened immunity and to be currently

afflicted with so-called PPS or post polio syndrome.

 

Just sharing my personal experience for whatever it's worth. I encourage you to

research the topic thoroughly.

th

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote:

 

I participated on a vaccine talk show again today, go to www.drcarley.com and

realize that now the babies i japan are not vaccinated until after 3 years due

to the nonrefutable damage from vaccines. Here is my favorite quote from Dr.

James R. Shannon, former director of the NIH

he declared " the only safe vaccine is the one that is never used " . I just

finished a chapter on cancer for my TCM Professor's new book and I told him I

had to tell the truth or could not contribute, if I knew then what i know now

about vaccines, I would NEVER had vaccinated my son and would have home schooled

him or whatever I had to do to keep him from recivieng the injections that would

assault his immune system and mutate his DNA!Sincerely,Patricia Jordan

DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

: shamanist1:

Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:09:05 +0000opinions on vaccinations for

babies?

 

what is everyone's opinion on vaccinations? Is a delayed schedule better? Is it

better to split vaccines? Is there much evidence that vaccines can cause other

problems such as immune disorders? Does anyone have any personal experience with

patients or family who have had reactions?thanks,Marie Sepich LAc

 

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As a parent I also wanted to do the right thing, which as far as vaccinations

go, seemed unnatural. Haven't had any problems. And many of the disfiguring,

lethal portrayals of these diseases, are a result of inadequate, antiquated

medical practices, plus the trinity, triangle, of disease propagation, namely:

stress, sanitation and poor nutrition.

The mercury drops that are introduced into a newborn's eyes to kill syphilis

that they 'may' catch in the vaginal canal on the way out, is the remnant of the

quicksilver (mercury, quacksilver, quacks) that was the begining of chemotherapy

since Columbus's time, to fight the vd brought to europe from the new world.

The powdered wigs worn in european courts come from the attempts at that time,

to hide the hair loss from such treatments. If everybody wore them, then nobody

would be singled out. Here we are.

 

wrote: Hi

Marie,

 

First of all, a belated congrats on your new addition. Hope you have lots of

pleasure, lots of learning and lots of selflessness! It's also quite a change

from LA to NYC. Hope the transition has been smooth. Now to vaccinations. We

were fortunate, 24years ago, when our son was born, to have an incredible human

being as our pediatrician. Dr. Paul Fleiss remained completely neutral and

completely supportive of whatever decision we made on the vaccination issue.

Chana and I elected to not vaccinate our son, and we have no regrets in the

slightest. Besides the David vs. Goliath issue of feeling like everywhere we

turned and everyone we spoke to, we were pontificated to as being negligent,

uncaring, irrational and dogmatic parents, there is so much insidious politics

(read big money!) to this issue. Every time I hear a news report on say, NPR

about the brave medical pioneers who venture to the third world or the inner

city with syringe in hand I want to puke. There

was enough circumstatial evidence back then, that vaccinations not only

compromise the immune system, but are ticking timebombs waiting to explode in

the form of genetically altered DNA and autoimmune dysfunction. Though I tend to

mind my own business and keep my opinions to myself, (except when it comes to my

family and my patients who I view as my family) when I consider issues that

the big pharmaceutical and big food industries have sold as mainstream and

acceptable such as vaccinations, silver amalgam fillings, birth control

pills, Chemotherapy, fast food, MSG, Margarine, sugar and dairy, I make my

opinions known to the contrary.

 

Read the vaccination inserts to see just what goes into them. Smell the

absolutely putrid bowel movements of children after they are vaccinated. Read

the many stories of patents whose children underwent dramatic personality

changes, even becoming autistic--after being vaccinated. Let alone those who

became crippled or died. Consider the method of administration--sticking

putrified proteins deep into to blood stream and shocking, no traumatizing the

immune system, as opposed to a pathogen's normal portals of entry: the skin, the

ears, mouth, nostrils, eyes, etc.

 

And what about if an infant gets sick? Isn't that dangerous or terrible?

Most of the time I would say, so what, if a kid gets measles, mumps, chicken

pox, rubella, etc! The theory of exposing a child to a pathogen by giving them

an immunization vaccine, is essentially sound. But our job as parents is to

make sure that they are raised in a clean, hygienic environment, adn eat

properly, sleep properly, breath fresh air, drink fresh water, and get lots of

emotional support. Our job as practitioners of Chinese medicine is to apply

what we learned in school and what we learn as physicians to strengthen their

immune systems and expel the pathogen.

 

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU WANT TO VACCINATE YOUR PRECIOUS TREASURE?

 

Regards from sunny Caulifohkneeah,

 

Yehuda

 

 

PS. Twyla and Patricia are absolutely right on in my very humble opinion.

 

Hi Marie...personally speaking, I refused to have my kids vaccinated and had to

fight school boards in two states to keep my kids vaccine free. My 'kids' are

now 37 and 34 and just fine, thank you except for corporate stress and short

bout with asthma as kids, they escaped the usual chicken pox, measles, etc.in

childhood. Sadly, I've witness numerous family members and friends children fall

miserably ill literally within hours of being vaccinated - including ADD and

autism, fevers, flu-like symtoms, pulmonary problems. My mother was convinced

the polio vaccine I was injected with in 1954 is what caused me to contract the

disease (and several others due to weakened immunity and to be currently

afflicted with so-called PPS or post polio syndrome.

 

Just sharing my personal experience for whatever it's worth. I encourage you to

research the topic thoroughly.

th

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote:

 

I participated on a vaccine talk show again today, go to www.drcarley.com and

realize that now the babies i japan are not vaccinated until after 3 years due

to the nonrefutable damage from vaccines. Here is my favorite quote from Dr.

James R. Shannon, former director of the NIH

he declared " the only safe vaccine is the one that is never used " . I just

finished a chapter on cancer for my TCM Professor's new book and I told him I

had to tell the truth or could not contribute, if I knew then what i know now

about vaccines, I would NEVER had vaccinated my son and would have home schooled

him or whatever I had to do to keep him from recivieng the injections that would

assault his immune system and mutate his DNA!Sincerely,Patricia Jordan

DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

: shamanist1:

Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:09:05 +0000opinions on vaccinations for

babies?

 

what is everyone's opinion on vaccinations? Is a delayed schedule better? Is it

better to split vaccines? Is there much evidence that vaccines can cause other

problems such as immune disorders? Does anyone have any personal experience with

patients or family who have had reactions?thanks,Marie Sepich LAc

 

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Hi Marie,

 

Despite my preference for CM, vaccinations and reconstructive surgery are two

things that WM does well, in my humble opinion. I'm glad to have vaccinations

and glad my children do, too. I would not wish shingles or other diseases on

anyone if they can be prevented. But I think the current standards of " timing "

is ill advised. I would not advise vaccinating " babies " . I'd wait at least a

couple of years.

 

A few of my classmates in Western medical school became pediatricians. When

they had children, they did not vaccinate their own children right away. They

waited quite a long time, until the age of two, when the immune system can

respond well. They seriously thought of waiting until their children were 4

years of age, but they wanted their kids to interact in group settings long

before then. So they opted for vaccinations at age two.

 

Respectfully and gratefully,

Emmanuel Segmen