Belt Points in horses versus Daimai (Belt Vessel) in humans

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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, SIR, BUT SINCE THE QUESTION WAS " WHICH ARE

THE POINTS FOR THE BELT OF KIDNEY " , MY POINT IS THAT FOR KIDNEY BELT

IN HORSES, THOSE ARE THE POINTS.

WE KNOW THE DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY IN PLACING NEEDLES IN HORSES FOR

VENTRAL AND DISTAL AREAS AND MOST OF THE LACK OF INFORMATION ON HOW

GOOD THEY WORK IN HORSES IS DUE TO THIS DIFFICULTY, SO THAT WE DONT

USE THEM AS MUCH. NONETHELESS, THERE ARE TONS OF NICE, GENTLE, EASY

GOING GOOD HORSES THAT BENEFIT FROM THEM IF WE TRY.

Even in humans a lot of people are turning their way towards Master

Tung and Tan techniques, using mostly distal points for greater

success, which I also like the most, but, we agree that this approach

is difficult in some horses. Vets like JackIves Guray use this

approach in horses with great results,though.

 

THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THE ESTRA DAIMAI site.

Antonio.

 

 

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>

> Hi All,

> .

> Although Daimai (Belt Vessel) is not the same as the Kidney Belt

> Points referred to below, see

> http://www.acucentre.com.au/TCMtheory/3a8extraMs/DaiMai_8.pdf for

an

> in-depth (great) discussion on the Daimai, and its points and uses.

>

> meanaleung wrote:

> >> belt of kidney on horse refers to which points ?

>

> antonioalf54 replied:

> > ... BL23 (KI Shu), BL52 (Zhishi, its outer Pt ... good for lumbar

pain

> > and stiffness) and GB25 (KI Mu) ... are on the same line or belt

and

> > obvious for KI problems; add in GV04 (Mingmen, Tone KI; Aid Loin

> > Spine) + CV04 (Guanyuan; Gate Origin; Tone & Nourish KI) on same

> > belt...

>

> Though I occasionally use CV17 (on thorax, between forelegs), I

have

> never used CV points on the abdomen of horses.

>

> IMO, not to mention that the penis and udder are in the way there,

> needling CV04 in is very risky for both horse and operator.

>

> Best regards,

>

>