Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 last year, sometime btwn july and november we were having a discussion about md's doing acupuncture. a woman sent a couple video links from youtube showing a couple of masters in china demonstrating incredible abilities with qi. one (possibly john cheng of java) was touching/needling a patient and causing convulsions due to the strong qi. later he was at a restaurant and pushed a chopstick through a table. a splinter hit a woman at the table, causing a little bleeding. after that he had a tormentous night because he had shown off and caused harm, which he had been told not to do. he wouldn't allow further taping. does this ring any bells. i saw a patient today who had been to java and was treated by john cheng. we were wondering if this was the same person. did anyone save/remember the 2 links i'm thinking of. they were 2 different practitioners. thanks, kath -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 I found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAB0dbc3Es & feature=related kath On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM, wrote: > last year, sometime btwn july and november we were having a discussion > about > md's doing acupuncture. a woman sent a couple video links from youtube > showing a couple of masters in china demonstrating incredible abilities > with > qi. one (possibly john cheng of java) was touching/needling a patient and > causing convulsions due to the strong qi. later he was at a restaurant and > pushed a chopstick through a table. a splinter hit a woman at the table, > causing a little bleeding. after that he had a tormentous night because he > had shown off and caused harm, which he had been told not to do. he > wouldn't allow further taping. > > does this ring any bells. i saw a patient today who had been to java and > was treated by john cheng. we were wondering if this was the same person. > did anyone save/remember the 2 links i'm thinking of. they were 2 > different > practitioners. > > thanks, > > kath > > -- > > Oriental Medicine > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > Asheville Center For > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > kbartlett <kbartlett%40AcupunctureAsheville.com> > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com <http://www.acupunctureasheville.com/> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 We talk about John Chen here. Most of people respond " oh, I think it is not about qi or acupuncture. It is black magic. You asked the " spirit " to help you do that. It take some months of meditation in the deep jungle. " So people will associate John Chen as " dukun " (sorcerer) here, except he different than " dukun " in general because he posseses TCM knowledge. People think because John Chen went public, the " spirit/ghost " was not happy, so they came to him at night and haunted him. I leave this discussion to you. I suggest anyone who are interested to probe more on this subject, come to Indonesia and communicate with some " dukun " and let them show you what they can do. Yandy Indonesia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I believe his name is John Chang. Chinese Medicine , Yandy Yang <yandy_mail wrote: > > We talk about John Chen here. Most of people respond " oh, I think it is not about qi or acupuncture. It is black magic. You asked the " spirit " to help you do that. It take some months of meditation in the deep jungle. " > > So people will associate John Chen as " dukun " (sorcerer) here, except he different than " dukun " in general because he posseses TCM knowledge. > People think because John Chen went public, the " spirit/ghost " was not happy, so they came to him at night and haunted him. > > I leave this discussion to you. I suggest anyone who are interested to probe more on this subject, come to Indonesia and communicate with some " dukun " and let them show you what they can do. > > Yandy > Indonesia > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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