Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Hi Sylvia, > Yesterday I was over my study books of equine acupuncture. Please can > you tell/explain me if there is a difference in the horse baihui and > in the human baihui. To me a point is a point and cannot in theory > change completely its location. Is it possible to indicate me what > numer baihui is, I thought it is VG20. In humans, Baihui-100 Meetings (Meeting Place of all the Yang Qi & Channels) refers to GV20 on top of the head. In animals, however, there are TWO locations for Baihui: (1) at human Baihui location, at top of head (GV20) as in humans; that point has similar actions to GV20 in humans; (2) at ANIMAL BAIHUI location (on GV Line, in the lumbosacral space). This location corresponds with that of an Extra Point (Shi-qi-zhui- xia (17th Vertebra Below)) in human AP. My notes on the human point are below EXTRA POINT NAME: Shiqizhui (17th Vertebra); Shiqizhuixue (17th Vertebra Pt); Shiqizhuixia (17th Vertebra Below) LOCATION: on loin, on GV Line, in lumbosacral space, in hollow below spinous process of vertebra L5; needle perp 0.5-1.2 " / use moxa SPECIAL ACTIONS: " Cervix Pt " in animals; Same location, Fxs & uses as " ANIMAL Baihui " in TCVM; MAIN ACTIONS: Strengthen Loin / Waist; Rectify Yang; Tone Yang; Tone KI; Rectify Uterus; Relax / Tone Uterus; Rectify Menses; Strengthen GV; Tx Back; Aid Limbs ~ Lower; Free Channel Bi; CLINICAL USES: back pain; loin pain, loin disc disease; loin spondylitis ~ ankylosing; lumbosacral disc disease; lumbosacral pain; buttock pain; sacroiliac pain; sciatica, thigh pain, limbs ~ lower pain / flaccidity / paralysis, paraplegia ~ traumatic, leg pain, polio sequels; gynaecological problems; menses ~ irregular, dysmenorrhoea, metrorrhagia, uterus spasm / colic / atony / prolapse; cervicitis; dystocia; placenta retention; urogenital problems; anus diseases; moxa Shiqizhui + BL26 in KI Yangxu; Shiqizhui + GV20 in haemorrhoids ~ internal w prolapse; I use the lumbosacral space in humans and animals for many clinical conditions. In horses, it is a powerful point for lower abdominal / pelvic organ problems, and pain / muscle spasm anywhere from the last few ribs to the hind toes. > The second thing I noticed is, that my different books about equine AP > show for the same point different locations - could you please give me > adivce for a book which accurate on the points. Thanks and best regards > Sylvia P.S. I feel pretty lost in my studies - the French seem not be > very involved into the subject Sylvia, training in veterinary acupuncture requires many years of study. IMO, it is not possible to be an expert equine acupuncturist without first studying conventional vet med, then human acupuncture, and then animal acupuncture. In comparison to human AP, TCVM-AP (Traditional Chinese acupuncture in animals) is poorly developed and highly fragmented. It bears little relationship to the highly coordinated and well documented system that is human AP. TCVM animal AP is largely a primitive form of cookbook-AP that describes no meridian system, no synthesis, no Master Pts (like Xi- Cleft Pts, Yuan-Luo Pts, no Five Element Pts, etc, as in humans). Also (as you said), different TCVM books describe different points for the same clinical indications, and some points with the same Chinese name can differ in their locations and uses not only between species, but also even within the same species. In a nutshell, TCVM is a nightmare for westerners to learn. Therefore, most western vets who use acupuncture in animals use the " Transposition System " , whereby human points and TCM Theory are transposed to animals, adjusting for anatomical differences. If you are not a vet, it is almost impossible to be accepted into the Vet AP training courses, such as those run by IVAS. If you really want to use AP effectively on your own animals, I would advise you to take a full training in human AP first. Then try to find an equine vet who would allow you to see him/her work for a period. However, the easiest way to get effective acupuncture for your horses is to find an experienced equine vet acupuncturist, even if this means looking outside of your own country. There are a few in Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Spain. Best regards, PS: See (1) Training In Animal Acupuncture: http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=55 (2) Information Sources on Veterinary Acupuncture: http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=80 (3) Methods of Stimulating Acupoints in Animals: http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=95 (4) Practical Applications of Acupuncture in Small Animal Practice: http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=125 (5) Practical Applications of Acupuncture in Equine Practice: http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=138 (6) Practical Applications of Acupuncture in Farm Animal Practice: http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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