Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 My patient (MD) wants me to help him to get off Coumadin with alternative medicine. I want to know if anyone had an experience to do that. Any advice is appreciated. Regards, Tatiana Gaidarenko, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would suggest to him to research Nattokinase and let him decide for himself. Clarissa tvgaid <tvgaid wrote: My patient (MD) wants me to help him to get off Coumadin with alternative medicine. I want to know if anyone had an experience to do that. Any advice is appreciated. Regards, Tatiana Gaidarenko, LAc Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 A good place for him to research getting off coumadin is Gordon's Research or Longevity Plus (same guy). He has a wealth of information but also a lot about his products. Clarissa Rissa Guest <rissaguest wrote: I would suggest to him to research Nattokinase and let him decide for himself. Clarissa tvgaid <tvgaid wrote: My patient (MD) wants me to help him to get off Coumadin with alternative medicine. I want to know if anyone had an experience to do that. Any advice is appreciated. Regards, Tatiana Gaidarenko, LAc Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi Tatiana and all, I'm always saying but it bears saying a few times. If your patient is willing to put in the time, and understands that he will have periods of easy progress as well as periods of difficult progress, that he will likely have to change some " important " aspects fo his personality, then he should be able to get off the coumadin. If he is ok with the above, then just treat for presenting signs and symptoms, treat his CM presentation only, bring him back to balance. As you do this you'll be getting a better and better idea of what is going on with him and you'll feel much mroe secure in what you're doing due to better undertsanding of the case. Actually reducing his medication ought to be done with the assistance of a cooperative MD, and doesn't need to be done until much later on the course of treatment. This is the general " protocol " I use for weaning off of any drug. I've used it for blood-thinners, lupus / sjogren's drugs, parkinson's drugs, anxiety / insomnia medications, blood pressure meds etc and so on. By the way, prepare your client for a down 'n' dirty ride - i.e. please disabuse him of any notion that he will wean off " cleanly " . It may be necessary for him to resume coumadin treatment at times or from tiem to time as he becomes stronger. Hope that helps, Hugo tvgaid <tvgaid Chinese Medicine Sunday, 9 March, 2008 6:36:27 PM Getting off Coumadin My patient (MD) wants me to help him to get off Coumadin with alternative medicine. I want to know if anyone had an experience to do that. Any advice is appreciated. Regards, Tatiana Gaidarenko, LAc <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> _________ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good http://uk.promotions../forgood/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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