Legislation to restrict giving nutritional recommendations-WI

[Guest guest]

We are in the midst of dealing with new legislation that has been

presented in both the assembly and the senate that would no longer

allow acupuncturists to discuss nutrition. According to current law,

this is within our scope of practice. The new proposed bills only

allow the giving of nutritional advice to MDs, RDs, chiropractors, and

weight loss centers.

 

Have any of you in other states had to deal with fighting similar

legislation? We are looking at how to have the bills amended to

include acupuncturists.

 

Thanks for your input.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

not in NC. this is wild. what state are you in?

 

kb

 

On Feb 12, 2008 10:52 AM, natdoc48 <natdoc48 wrote:

 

> We are in the midst of dealing with new legislation that has been

> presented in both the assembly and the senate that would no longer

> allow acupuncturists to discuss nutrition. According to current law,

> this is within our scope of practice. The new proposed bills only

> allow the giving of nutritional advice to MDs, RDs, chiropractors, and

> weight loss centers.

>

> Have any of you in other states had to deal with fighting similar

> legislation? We are looking at how to have the bills amended to

> include acupuncturists.

>

> Thanks for your input.

> Meredith

>

>

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Wisconsin.

[Guest guest]

MD's teaching nutrition? Good one!

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " natdoc48 "

<natdoc48 wrote:

>

> We are in the midst of dealing with new legislation that has been

> presented in both the assembly and the senate that would no longer

> allow acupuncturists to discuss nutrition. According to current law,

> this is within our scope of practice. The new proposed bills only

> allow the giving of nutritional advice to MDs, RDs, chiropractors, and

> weight loss centers.

>

> Have any of you in other states had to deal with fighting similar

> legislation? We are looking at how to have the bills amended to

> include acupuncturists.

>

> Thanks for your input.

> Meredith

>

[Guest guest]

The argument against this legislation has to be presented as follows:

 

Chinese medicine is a complete system of medical care that includes

internal (herbal) medicine, acupuncture/moxabustion, manipulation AND

nutritional theory. It is based on different criteria than Western

nutrition, like all of Chinese medicine based on yin yang theory. It

cannot be separated from the body of Chinese medicine, is taught at

all Chinese medical colleges, and cannot be excluded from our scope of

practice by other professions without violating right of trade.

 

 

On Feb 12, 2008, at 10:01 PM, bill_schoenbart wrote:

 

> MD's teaching nutrition? Good one!

>

> Chinese Medicine , " natdoc48 "

> <natdoc48 wrote:

> >

> > We are in the midst of dealing with new legislation that has been

> > presented in both the assembly and the senate that would no longer

> > allow acupuncturists to discuss nutrition. According to current law,

> > this is within our scope of practice. The new proposed bills only

> > allow the giving of nutritional advice to MDs, RDs, chiropractors,

> and

> > weight loss centers.

> >

> > Have any of you in other states had to deal with fighting similar

> > legislation? We are looking at how to have the bills amended to

> > include acupuncturists.

> >

> > Thanks for your input.

> > Meredith

> >

>

>

>

 

 

Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

San Diego, Ca. 92122

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Bill: You are making me laugh.

 

Meredith: You folks in Wisconsin (a hot bed of politics as I write this) have

got to get acupuncturists included in that group. Go to someone and fight for

it. Explain what the prerequites were for you to get into acupuncture school and

also what you studied in school. You might compare it to an MD curriculum or a

chiro curriculum. You certainly don't want to be excluded. What is with weight

loss centers? What kind of credentials do they need? Anyway - just go in there

and get included, with some backup for why. Why the other cast of characters is

included is another issue.

 

Anne

 

--

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., M.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

 

www.SouthernMDacupuncture.com

 

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" bill_schoenbart " <plantmed

> MD's teaching nutrition? Good one!

>

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " natdoc48 "

> <natdoc48 wrote:

> >

> > We are in the midst of dealing with new legislation that has been

> > presented in both the assembly and the senate that would no longer

> > allow acupuncturists to discuss nutrition. According to current law,

> > this is within our scope of practice. The new proposed bills only

> > allow the giving of nutritional advice to MDs, RDs, chiropractors, and

> > weight loss centers.

> >

> > Have any of you in other states had to deal with fighting similar

> > legislation? We are looking at how to have the bills amended to

> > include acupuncturists.

> >

> > Thanks for your input.

> > Meredith

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Z'ev. My thoughts exactly, as I was unable to fall asleep last

night!

 

Chinese Medicine ,

<zrosenbe wrote:

>

> The argument against this legislation has to be presented as follows:

>

> Chinese medicine is a complete system of medical care that includes

> internal (herbal) medicine, acupuncture/moxabustion, manipulation AND

> nutritional theory. It is based on different criteria than Western

> nutrition, like all of Chinese medicine based on yin yang theory. It

> cannot be separated from the body of Chinese medicine, is taught at

> all Chinese medical colleges, and cannot be excluded from our scope of

> practice by other professions without violating right of trade.

>

>

> On Feb 12, 2008, at 10:01 PM, bill_schoenbart wrote:

>

> > MD's teaching nutrition? Good one!

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " natdoc48 "

> > <natdoc48@> wrote:

> > >

> > > We are in the midst of dealing with new legislation that has been

> > > presented in both the assembly and the senate that would no longer

> > > allow acupuncturists to discuss nutrition. According to current law,

> > > this is within our scope of practice. The new proposed bills only

> > > allow the giving of nutritional advice to MDs, RDs, chiropractors,

> > and

> > > weight loss centers.

> > >

> > > Have any of you in other states had to deal with fighting similar

> > > legislation? We are looking at how to have the bills amended to

> > > include acupuncturists.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your input.

> > > Meredith

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

> Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

> San Diego, Ca. 92122

 

[Guest guest]

You're so right Anne. Thanks for the great suggestions.

 

We are banding together and writing letters, writing amendments,

scheduling meetings with representatives, etc.

 

To date, our state organization is too poor to afford a lobbyist. I

think we seriously need one to keep these things from getting this far.

 

I will pass on your suggestions.

 

Enjoy your freedom to practice! I hope to retain mine!

Meredith