Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone provide their patients with needles and teach them how to needle themselves? I have not heard of this. Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient technique used to promote health and well being by inserting small needless into different points on the body. In an effort to save their patients money, some acupuncturists have started providing their patients with acupuncture kits to use perform self acupuncture between treatments. Instructions Difficulty: Easy Steps 1 Step One Schedule an appointment with an acupuncturist. It is important to see a professional to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture before you begin. Check your local phone book or search on the Internet for an acupuncturist in your area. 2 Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages self acupuncture as part of his treatment method. You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to teach you the methods and supply you with the needles. This is now common practice at many traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United States. 3 Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture so you know what to expect before your first appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and scary if you have never done it before, but it is not usually a painful treatment. 4 Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture properly by practicing in your acupuncturists office. She will be able to teach you proper placement of the needles based on your individual needs. 5 Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water before each use. Using dirty or unsterilized needles for acupuncture can cause infection. You should wear plastic gloves when handling the needles after they have been sterilized. 6 Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment with your acupuncture. Most acupuncturists will recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in addition to acupuncture depending on your particular needs. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 this sounds bogus to me: this is common practice? sterilize needles in boiling water? the LAc wil teach you where to put the needles? my guess is that this would be considered an unlawful practice: i cannot believe training patients to needle themselves is in our scope of practice. i'm not even sure we can let patients leave with needles retained, to be removed later. i rather doubt many patients would even consider needling themselves. this sounds like wishful thinking on the part of a writer wanting free acupuncture. patients will have to satisfy themselves with moxa or plum blossom when appropriate. if they want to needle themselves they need to go to acu college. kath On Feb 10, 2008 7:44 PM, Twyla <twylahoodah wrote: > I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone provide their > patients with needles and teach them how to needle themselves? I have not > heard of this. Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient technique used to > promote health and well being by inserting small needless into different > points on the body. In an effort to save their patients money, some > acupuncturists have started providing their patients with acupuncture kits > to use perform self acupuncture between treatments. > Instructions Difficulty: Easy > Steps 1 > Step One Schedule an appointment with an acupuncturist. It is important to > see a professional to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture before > you begin. Check your local phone book or search on the Internet for an > acupuncturist in your area. > > 2 > Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages self acupuncture as part > of his treatment method. You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to > teach you the methods and supply you with the needles. This is now common > practice at many traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United States. > > 3 > Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture so you know what to > expect before your first appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and > scary if you have never done it before, but it is not usually a painful > treatment. > > 4 > Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture properly by practicing in > your acupuncturists office. She will be able to teach you proper placement > of the needles based on your individual needs. > > 5 > Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water before each use. Using > dirty or unsterilized needles for acupuncture can cause infection. You > should wear plastic gloves when handling the needles after they have been > sterilized. > > 6 > Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment with your acupuncture. > Most acupuncturists will recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in > addition to acupuncture depending on your particular needs. > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Wow, Twyla, This is pretty scary and reeks of unprofessional conduct and malpractice suits, not to mention losing one's license. I'd not heard of this until now, and I am wondering who is promoting this, and why. Sounds like an issue to be brought to the attention of our national organizations. Twyla <twylahoodah wrote: I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone provide their patients with needles and teach them how to needle themselves? I have not heard of this. Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient technique used to promote health and well being by inserting small needless into different points on the body. In an effort to save their patients money, some acupuncturists have started providing their patients with acupuncture kits to use perform self acupuncture between treatments. Instructions Difficulty: Easy Steps 1 Step One Schedule an appointment with an acupuncturist. It is important to see a professional to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture before you begin. Check your local phone book or search on the Internet for an acupuncturist in your area. 2 Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages self acupuncture as part of his treatment method. You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to teach you the methods and supply you with the needles. This is now common practice at many traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United States. 3 Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture so you know what to expect before your first appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and scary if you have never done it before, but it is not usually a painful treatment. 4 Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture properly by practicing in your acupuncturists office. She will be able to teach you proper placement of the needles based on your individual needs. 5 Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water before each use. Using dirty or unsterilized needles for acupuncture can cause infection. You should wear plastic gloves when handling the needles after they have been sterilized. 6 Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment with your acupuncture. Most acupuncturists will recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in addition to acupuncture depending on your particular needs. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 This is not in our scope of practice, unlawful and a bad idea. Acupuncturist should send letters/e-mail to ehowto.com asking them to remove this " how to. " Maria Kuriloff _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Kath Bartlett, MS, LAc Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:53 PM Chinese Medicine Re: This was posted on e this sounds bogus to me: this is common practice? sterilize needles in boiling water? the LAc wil teach you where to put the needles? my guess is that this would be considered an unlawful practice: i cannot believe training patients to needle themselves is in our scope of practice. i'm not even sure we can let patients leave with needles retained, to be removed later. i rather doubt many patients would even consider needling themselves. this sounds like wishful thinking on the part of a writer wanting free acupuncture. patients will have to satisfy themselves with moxa or plum blossom when appropriate. if they want to needle themselves they need to go to acu college. kath On Feb 10, 2008 7:44 PM, Twyla <twylahoodah@ <twylahoodah%40> > wrote: > I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone provide their > patients with needles and teach them how to needle themselves? I have not > heard of this. Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient technique used to > promote health and well being by inserting small needless into different > points on the body. In an effort to save their patients money, some > acupuncturists have started providing their patients with acupuncture kits > to use perform self acupuncture between treatments. > Instructions Difficulty: Easy > Steps 1 > Step One Schedule an appointment with an acupuncturist. It is important to > see a professional to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture before > you begin. Check your local phone book or search on the Internet for an > acupuncturist in your area. > > 2 > Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages self acupuncture as part > of his treatment method. You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to > teach you the methods and supply you with the needles. This is now common > practice at many traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United States. > > 3 > Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture so you know what to > expect before your first appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and > scary if you have never done it before, but it is not usually a painful > treatment. > > 4 > Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture properly by practicing in > your acupuncturists office. She will be able to teach you proper placement > of the needles based on your individual needs. > > 5 > Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water before each use. Using > dirty or unsterilized needles for acupuncture can cause infection. You > should wear plastic gloves when handling the needles after they have been > sterilized. > > 6 > Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment with your acupuncture. > Most acupuncturists will recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in > addition to acupuncture depending on your particular needs. > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Andrea, I did not keep posts handy, but I CAN tell you I have seen reference on these boards to practitioners sending needles home with patients. Folks may donate blood if they have just had professional acupuncture. If you send a needle home with them, they are not allowed to donate blood. Of course, once the needle leaves our office we have no control over Clean Technique and sanitation and risk. I recall bringing up this donation issue relative to sending needles home. Actually, anyone who sends a needle out of the office just threw risk down the toilet! Lynn --- < wrote: > Wow, Twyla, > > This is pretty scary and reeks of unprofessional > conduct and malpractice suits, not to mention losing > one's license. I'd not heard of this until now, and > I am wondering who is promoting this, and why. > Sounds like an issue to be brought to the attention > of our national organizations. > > ~ Doing Better Than I Deserve ~ Pain is Normal - Be Weird! Lynn Detamore, MS, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. Licensed and Board Certified Acupuncturist PO Box 14, Sheridan, OR 97378 503.474.8876 lynndetamore ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Twyla, Per my other post, I have certainly heard of pracitioners sending pts home with needles. I have never heard of an Acupuncture Kit being made, let alone sent home with a pt, however. Where did they come up with this stuff? Heaven forbid someone who does send Kits home with pts gave them this info?! Lynn --- Twyla <twylahoodah wrote: > I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone > provide their patients with needles and teach them > how to needle themselves? I have not heard of this. > Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient > technique used to promote health and well being by > inserting small needless into different points on > the body. In an effort to save their patients money, > some acupuncturists have started providing their > patients with acupuncture kits to use perform self > acupuncture between treatments. > Instructions Difficulty: Easy > Steps 1 > Step One Schedule an appointment with an > acupuncturist. It is important to see a professional > to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture > before you begin. Check your local phone book or > search on the Internet for an acupuncturist in your > area. > > 2 > Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages > self acupuncture as part of his treatment method. > You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to > teach you the methods and supply you with the > needles. This is now common practice at many > traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United > States. > > 3 > Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture > so you know what to expect before your first > appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and > scary if you have never done it before, but it is > not usually a painful treatment. > > 4 > Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture > properly by practicing in your acupuncturists > office. She will be able to teach you proper > placement of the needles based on your individual > needs. > > 5 > Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water > before each use. Using dirty or unsterilized needles > for acupuncture can cause infection. You should wear > plastic gloves when handling the needles after they > have been sterilized. > > 6 > Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment > with your acupuncture. Most acupuncturists will > recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in > addition to acupuncture depending on your particular > needs. > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > fast with Search. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ~ Doing Better Than I Deserve ~ Pain is Normal - Be Weird! Lynn Detamore, MS, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. Licensed and Board Certified Acupuncturist PO Box 14, Sheridan, OR 97378 503.474.8876 lynndetamore ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Lynn, I am very surprised to hear this, as I had not heard this before. I only remember a discussion about someone leaving staples in the ears for weight loss. I don't know any practitioners who would send needles home with patients. I never would. By the way everyone, my first name is Andrea Beth. " J. Lynn Detamore " <lynndetamore wrote: Andrea, I did not keep posts handy, but I CAN tell you I have seen reference on these boards to practitioners sending needles home with patients. Folks may donate blood if they have just had professional acupuncture. If you send a needle home with them, they are not allowed to donate blood. Of course, once the needle leaves our office we have no control over Clean Technique and sanitation and risk. I recall bringing up this donation issue relative to sending needles home. Actually, anyone who sends a needle out of the office just threw risk down the toilet! Lynn --- wrote: > Wow, Twyla, > > This is pretty scary and reeks of unprofessional > conduct and malpractice suits, not to mention losing > one's license. I'd not heard of this until now, and > I am wondering who is promoting this, and why. > Sounds like an issue to be brought to the attention > of our national organizations. > > ~ Doing Better Than I Deserve ~ Pain is Normal - Be Weird! Lynn Detamore, MS, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. Licensed and Board Certified Acupuncturist PO Box 14, Sheridan, OR 97378 503.474.8876 lynndetamore ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Are you sure it wasn't on E-how-to-get-sued.com? > > > I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone > > provide their patients with needles and teach them > > how to needle themselves? I have not heard of this. > > Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient > > technique used to promote health and well being by > > inserting small needless into different points on > > the body. In an effort to save their patients money, > > some acupuncturists have started providing their > > patients with acupuncture kits to use perform self > > acupuncture between treatments. > > Instructions Difficulty: Easy > > Steps 1 > > Step One Schedule an appointment with an > > acupuncturist. It is important to see a professional > > to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture > > before you begin. Check your local phone book or > > search on the Internet for an acupuncturist in your > > area. > > > > 2 > > Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages > > self acupuncture as part of his treatment method. > > You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to > > teach you the methods and supply you with the > > needles. This is now common practice at many > > traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United > > States. > > > > 3 > > Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture > > so you know what to expect before your first > > appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and > > scary if you have never done it before, but it is > > not usually a painful treatment. > > > > 4 > > Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture > > properly by practicing in your acupuncturists > > office. She will be able to teach you proper > > placement of the needles based on your individual > > needs. > > > > 5 > > Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water > > before each use. Using dirty or unsterilized needles > > for acupuncture can cause infection. You should wear > > plastic gloves when handling the needles after they > > have been sterilized. > > > > 6 > > Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment > > with your acupuncture. Most acupuncturists will > > recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in > > addition to acupuncture depending on your particular > > needs. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Andrea Beth, I was very surprised, also. I am glad to see the shocked reaction now Lynn --- < wrote: > Lynn, I am very surprised to hear this, as I had not > heard this before. I only remember a discussion > about someone leaving staples in the ears for weight > loss. I don't know any practitioners who would send > needles home with patients. I never would. > > By the way everyone, my first name is Andrea Beth. > > > ~ Doing Better Than I Deserve ~ Pain is Normal - Be Weird! Lynn Detamore, MS, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. Licensed and Board Certified Acupuncturist PO Box 14, Sheridan, OR 97378 503.474.8876 lynndetamore ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 omg, BOILING WATER?! " Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water before each use. " I believe you're right, Bill. Lynn --- bill_schoenbart <plantmed wrote: > Are you sure it wasn't on E-how-to-get-sued.com? ~ Doing Better Than I Deserve ~ Pain is Normal - Be Weird! Lynn Detamore, MS, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. Licensed and Board Certified Acupuncturist PO Box 14, Sheridan, OR 97378 503.474.8876 lynndetamore ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Good one. Bill! Thanks for the early morning laugh! bill_schoenbart <plantmed wrote: Are you sure it wasn't on E-how-to-get-sued.com? > > > I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone > > provide their patients with needles and teach them > > how to needle themselves? I have not heard of this. > > Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient > > technique used to promote health and well being by > > inserting small needless into different points on > > the body. In an effort to save their patients money, > > some acupuncturists have started providing their > > patients with acupuncture kits to use perform self > > acupuncture between treatments. > > Instructions Difficulty: Easy > > Steps 1 > > Step One Schedule an appointment with an > > acupuncturist. It is important to see a professional > > to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture > > before you begin. Check your local phone book or > > search on the Internet for an acupuncturist in your > > area. > > > > 2 > > Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages > > self acupuncture as part of his treatment method. > > You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to > > teach you the methods and supply you with the > > needles. This is now common practice at many > > traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United > > States. > > > > 3 > > Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture > > so you know what to expect before your first > > appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and > > scary if you have never done it before, but it is > > not usually a painful treatment. > > > > 4 > > Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture > > properly by practicing in your acupuncturists > > office. She will be able to teach you proper > > placement of the needles based on your individual > > needs. > > > > 5 > > Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water > > before each use. Using dirty or unsterilized needles > > for acupuncture can cause infection. You should wear > > plastic gloves when handling the needles after they > > have been sterilized. > > > > 6 > > Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment > > with your acupuncture. Most acupuncturists will > > recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in > > addition to acupuncture depending on your particular > > needs. > > > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 bill: lol. love your witticism. keep 'em coming kath On Feb 11, 2008 9:38 PM, bill_schoenbart <plantmed wrote: > Are you sure it wasn't on E-how-to-get-sued.com<http://e-how-to-get-sued.com/>? > > > > > > > > I just saw this posted on ehowto.com...does anyone > > > provide their patients with needles and teach them > > > how to needle themselves? I have not heard of this. > > > Introduction Acupuncture is an ancient > > > technique used to promote health and well being by > > > inserting small needless into different points on > > > the body. In an effort to save their patients money, > > > some acupuncturists have started providing their > > > patients with acupuncture kits to use perform self > > > acupuncture between treatments. > > > Instructions Difficulty: Easy > > > Steps 1 > > > Step One Schedule an appointment with an > > > acupuncturist. It is important to see a professional > > > to learn the proper way for performing acupuncture > > > before you begin. Check your local phone book or > > > search on the Internet for an acupuncturist in your > > > area. > > > > > > 2 > > > Step Two Choose an acupuncturist that encourages > > > self acupuncture as part of his treatment method. > > > You will need an acupuncturist who is willing to > > > teach you the methods and supply you with the > > > needles. This is now common practice at many > > > traditional Chinese medical clinics in the United > > > States. > > > > > > 3 > > > Step Three Familiarize yourself with acupuncture > > > so you know what to expect before your first > > > appointment. Acupuncture can be uncomfortable and > > > scary if you have never done it before, but it is > > > not usually a painful treatment. > > > > > > 4 > > > Step Four Lean how to perform self acupuncture > > > properly by practicing in your acupuncturists > > > office. She will be able to teach you proper > > > placement of the needles based on your individual > > > needs. > > > > > > 5 > > > Step Five Sterilize your needles in boiling water > > > before each use. Using dirty or unsterilized needles > > > for acupuncture can cause infection. You should wear > > > plastic gloves when handling the needles after they > > > have been sterilized. > > > > > > 6 > > > Step Six Consider combining an herbal treatment > > > with your acupuncture. Most acupuncturists will > > > recommend Chinese herbal remedies be used in > > > addition to acupuncture depending on your particular > > > needs. > > > > > > > > > -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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