Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Hi All, For a (mediocre) Google translation of a detailed monograph on Hongjingtian - Rhodiola, see: http://tinyurl.com/34z495 To fine-tune the translation, copy it into Wenlin software. This (and several other Chinese pages) suggests that there are up to 100 Rhodiola spp. MANY of these are used medicinally. http://www.efloras.org/browse.aspx?flora_id=2 & start_taxon_id=128370 says: _TAXON # _Latin Name _Pinyin Name 200009811 R alsia Xichuan Hongjingtian 241000309 R alsia subsp alsia Xichuan Hongjingtian (Yuan Bianzhong, Original Variant) 241000310 R alsia subsp kawaguchii Hekou Hongjingtian 200009812 R alterna Husheng Hongjingtian 200009813 R angusta Changbai Hongjingtian 200009814 R aporontica Dabao Hongjingtian ?? R atropupurea Dazi Hongjingtian 200009815 R atsaensis Ya Fix:Cha;Zha Hongjingtian 200009816 R atuntsuensis Deqin Hongjingtian 200009817 R brevipetiolata Duanbing Hongjingtian 200009818 R bupleuroides Chaihu Hongjingtian 200009819 R calliantha Meihua Hongjingtian 200009820 R chrysanthemifolia Juye Hongjingtian 241000077 R coccinea Yuancong Hongjingtian; Shenye Hongjingtian 241000078 R coccinea subsp coccinea Yuancong Hongjingtian (Yuan Yazhong, Original Subsp) 241000079 R coccinea subsp scabrida Cucao Hongjingtian 200009821 R concinna Youmei Hongjingtian 200009822 R crenulata Dahua Hongjingtian 200009823 R cretinii Genchu Hongjingtian 241000313 R cretinii subsp cretinii Genchu Hongjingtian (Yuan Yazhong, Original Subsp) 241000314 R cretinii subsp sinoalpina Gaoshan Hongjingtian 242343438 R cretinii subsp sino-alpina Gaoshan Hongjingtian 200009825 R dielsiana Chuanxi Hongjingtian 200009826 R discolor Yise Hongjingtian 200009827 R dumulosa Xiaocong Hongjingtian 200009828 R eurycarpa Kuanguo Hongjingtian 200009829 R fastigiata / ?? fastigata / fassiglea Changbian Hongjingtian 200009830 R forrestii Changyuan Hongjingtian 241000081 R gannanica Gannan Hongjingtian 200009831 R gelida Changlin Hongjingtian 200009832 R handelii Xiaozhu Hongjingtian 200009833 R henryi Lingye Hongjingtian 200009834 R heterodonta Yichi Hongjingtian 200009835 R himalensis Xima Hongjingtian 241000307 R himalensis subsp himalensis Xima Hongjingtian (Yuan Yazhong, Original Subsp) 241000308 R himalensis subsp taohoensis Taohe Hongjingtian 200009836 R hobsonii Beiyao Hongjingtian 200009837 R humilis Aisheng Hongjingtian 241000312 R junggarica Zhunga'er Hongjingtian 200009838 R juparensis Yuancong Hongjingtian 200009839 R kansuensis Gansu Hongjingtian 200009840 R kaschgarica Kashi Hongjingtian 241000080 R kashgarica Kashi Hongjingtian 200009841 R kirilowii Xiaye Hongjingtian 200009842 R kirilowii var latifolia Kuanxiaye Hongjingtian 200009843 R liciae Kunming Hongjingtian 200009844 R likiangensis Lijiang Hongjingtian 200009845 R linearifolia Tiaoye Hongjingtian 200009846 R litwinowii Huang´e Hongjingtian 200009847 R macrocarpa Daguo Hongjingtian 200009848 R macrolepis Dalin Hongjingtian 200009849 R megalophylla Daye Hongjingtian 200009850 R nobilis Youxiu Hongjingtian 200009851 R ovatisepala Luan´e Hongjingtian 200009852 R ovatisepala var chingii Xian´e Hongjingtian 241000319 R ovatisepala var ovatisepala Luan´e Hongjingtian (Yuan Bianzhong, Original Variant) 241000082 R pamiroalaica Pami Hongjingtian 200009853 R pamiro-alaica Pami Hongjingtian 200009854 R papillocarpa Zhongguo Hongjingtian 200009855 R petiolata Youbing Hongjingtian 200009856 R phariensis Pali Hongjingtian 200009857 R pinnatifida Yulie Hongjingtian 200009858 R prainii Silun Hongjingtian 200009859 R primuloides Baochun Hongjingtian 241000306 R primuloides subsp kongboensis Gongbu Hongjingtian 241000305 R primuloides subsp primuloides Baochun Hongjingtian (Yuan Yazhong, Original Subsp) 200009861 R purpureoviridis Zilu Hongjingtian 241000316 R purpureoviridis subsp phariensis Pali Hongjingtian 241000315 R purpureoviridis subsp purpureoviridis Zilu Hongjingtian (Yuan Yazhong, Original Subsp) 200009862 R quadrifida Silie Hongjingtian 200009863 R recticaulis Zhijing Hongjingtian 200009864 R robusta Zhuangjian Hongjingtian 200009865 R rosea Hongjingtian; Qiangwei Hongjingtian 200009866 R rosea var microphylla Xiaoye Hongjingtian 241000311 R rosea var rosea Hongjingtian (Yuan Bianzhong, Original Variant) 200009867 R rotundifolia Yuanye Hongjingtian 200009868 R sachalinensis Kuye Hongjingtian 200009869 R sacra Shengdi Hongjingtian 241000318 R sacra var sacra Shengdi Hongjingtian (Yuan Bianzhong, Original Variant) 200009870 R sacra var tsuiana Changmao Shengdi Hongjingtian 200009871 R scabrida Cucao Hongjingtian 200009872 R semenovii Zhuhua Hongjingtian; Xie Fix:Shi;Zhi Hongjingtian 200009873 R serrata Chiye Hongjingtian 200009874 R sexifolia Liuye Hongjingtian 200009875 R sherriffii Xiaobei Hongjingtian 200009876 R sinuate / heuryi Lieye Hongjingtian 200009877 R smithii Yilin Hongjingtian 200009878 R staminea Changrui Hongjingtian 200009879 R stapfii Tuohuahong Jingtian 200009880 R stephanii Xingan Hongjingtian 200009881 R subopposita Duiye Hongjingtian 200009882 R tangutica; R algida Tanggu Hongjingtian; Tanggute Hongjingtian 200009883 R taohoensis Taohe Hongjingtian 200009884 R telephioides Dongjiang Hongjingtian 200009885 R tibetica Xizang Hongjingtian 200009886 R tieghemii Batang Hongjingtian ?? R viridula Qianlu Hongjingtian 200009887 R wallichiana Cujing Hongjingtian 200009888 R wallichiana var cholaensis Dazhucujing Hongjingtian 241000317 R wallichiana var wallichiana Cujing Hongjingtian (Yuan Bianzhong, Original Variant) 200009889 R yunnanensis Yunnan Hongjingtian Best regards, Best regards, HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel: (H): +353-(0); VOIP Number: +353-1482-7068; Tel: (M): +353-(0) < " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt woman doing it " - Chinese Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Hi Phil, Thank you for this. You make a good point with your presentation of the 100+ species of Hong Jing Tian. My president brought in R sachalinensis Kuye Hongjingtian which is wildcrafted from mountaintops in Jilin Province. Some people there intend the translation hong jin(g) tian to mean " red flower in the sky " since it's at the mountaintops. My president's husband became interested in this herb when a clinical TCM researcher friend of his published papers in Beijing about it's use in formulas that normally call for bai ren shen. He specifically used the Jilin R sachalinensis. This hong jing tian appeared to be as effective as or more effective than the bai ren shen in the formulas but with a more neutral or even very slightly cooling effect. This made the formulas more useful for long term usage. In the early to mid-1990s, you couldn't give away hong jing tian in America. No one was interested. As I understand it, certain species names for the Latin binomial gained marketing currency from Russian cultivation of the herb in Siberian soil and then later presentation of research papers in the 1990s in Europe. I find the stories circulating around this herb to be rather convoluted. The wildcrafted Hong Jing Tian which fits the northern medicine of Jilin is a beautiful thing, IMO. Respectfully and gratefully, Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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