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Hi can anyone explain:

 

1. exactly what the Dusky tongue describes?

 

2. where does this term originate?

 

3. Is there a Chinese term for " dusky " ?

 

 

I've heard this tongue color description from day 1, but it's not listed in

major texts.

It seems to be a colloquial term.

Any explanation?

Thanks.

 

 

 

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<johnkokko wrote:

>

> Hi can anyone explain:

>

> 1. exactly what the Dusky tongue describes?

>

> 2. where does this term originate?

>

> 3. Is there a Chinese term for " dusky " ?

 

I think dusky is just a colloquial term that is used to refer to mild

dark tongue or a mild purple tongue. In Chinese, there isn't an exact

correspondence to the word dusky as it is used in the Western clinic-

in Chinese they say dark or purple.

 

Eric

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in modern usage, see:

http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=worddictbasic & wdqb=dusky & wdrst=0

 

dusky = hun1an4

ALSO see dark = hei1an4

ALSO see purple = zi3se4

 

What is used in the sources translated as dusky ?

 

Joe

www.jreidomd.blogspot.com

 

 

 

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<smilinglotus wrote:

> I think dusky is just a colloquial term that is used to refer to mild

> dark tongue or a mild purple tongue. In Chinese, there isn't an exact

> correspondence to the word dusky as it is used in the Western clinic-

> in Chinese they say dark or purple.

> Eric

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Eric,

 

Yes. There aren't any references to dusky tongue in CAM or Maciocia, are

there?

Bensky and Deadman also don't use the term.

However, it is probably the most common tongue description in some circles.

Others hate the term.

 

I'm curious who started this all?

 

 

 

On Feb 5, 2008 12:43 PM, Eric Brand <smilinglotus wrote:

 

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> " "

> <johnkokko wrote:

> >

> > Hi can anyone explain:

> >

> > 1. exactly what the Dusky tongue describes?

> >

> > 2. where does this term originate?

> >

> > 3. Is there a Chinese term for " dusky " ?

>

> I think dusky is just a colloquial term that is used to refer to mild

> dark tongue or a mild purple tongue. In Chinese, there isn't an exact

> correspondence to the word dusky as it is used in the Western clinic-

> in Chinese they say dark or purple.

>

> Eric

>

>

>

 

 

 

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As far as teachings go, do not rely upon the words alone, but rely upon the

meaning that underlies them.

Regarding the meaning, do not rely upon the provisional meaning alone, but

rely upon the definitive meaning.

And regarding the definitive meaning, do not rely upon ordinary

consciousness, but rely upon wisdom awareness.

 

 

 

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i can answer the first part: the dusky T refers to a lighter, greyish,

purple coloration, kind of lavender, indicating blood stag. this is

contrasted to the dark, purple color of the classic purple T.

 

kath

 

On Feb 4, 2008 9:17 PM, <johnkokko wrote:

 

> Hi can anyone explain:

>

> 1. exactly what the Dusky tongue describes?

>

> 2. where does this term originate?

>

> 3. Is there a Chinese term for " dusky " ?

>

> I've heard this tongue color description from day 1, but it's not listed

> in

> major texts.

> It seems to be a colloquial term.

> Any explanation?

> Thanks.

>

>

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<johnkokko wrote:

>

> Eric,

>

> Yes. There aren't any references to dusky tongue in CAM or

Maciocia, are

> there?

> Bensky and Deadman also don't use the term.

> However, it is probably the most common tongue description in some

circles.

> Others hate the term.

>

> I'm curious who started this all?

 

No idea! I don't recall ever seeing the term used in a translated book.

 

Eric

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