Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 i was recently contacted by a father of a young adolescent with growth problems. he's been on a $50,000/yr drug, which is no longer being subsidized, so dad's searching for tx options. wasn't this issue discussed a while back? if someone remembers and can give me some approximate dates, i might be able to find the conversations in my back emails. meanwhile, if anyone has experience in tx this condition and has specifics to offer in terms of tx techniques and prognosis, i'ld be much appreciative. i am heavy on herbs in my practice (raw and granules) so would be interested in herbal remedies. i'm thinking jing tonics, but am wondering about specifics. with gratitude, kath -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 There is congenital growth delay in my family. My son, like my father, did not really start growing until late adolescence. He looked 8 at age 14. At almost 20, my son's beard is just starting to grow. I had my son to all kinds of doctors. No one had the answer - even injections did nothing. It comes with many social issues, which add to the stress. The good thing is that the hormones do kick in and these individuals generally stay young longer - the reward comes with longevity. I also want to believe that the experience of being different from the peer group, but growing at the pace that is consistent genetically with a normal outcome, potentially creates a strong, empathic individual. If your patient is similar, let him know one day this will be history, and even though it is hard being different, it won't define who he is for long. Help him be happy with moments and show him that not all cultures judge a person by size. My son refused acupuncture, so I do not know if that would have worked. Sometimes when a parent has an overwhelming concern for a child, I suggest they both receive the same treatment at the same time. Parent and child can become almost the same organism - and this is how it was for me. Just some thoughts - hope they help. Janis --- ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Of course, this in theory is a Kidney Jing problem, so herbs to boost Jing. I have had some success with using Er Long Zuo Ci Wan with a young boy who was not developing, had poor hearing and trouble in school. He has taken this fornula regularly for 5 or 6 years and now looks like a normal narly teenager who is making good grade. One never knows what to attribute to the herb therapy and to a person's personal effort, but when he is out of herbs he says he feels that he is missing something. I substitute Shi Chang Pu for Jiu Jie Chang Pu and add Lu Jiao Shuang which is reputed to help developmental problems. I also rarely use Ci Shi as it can be toxic if used over a long period of time. I hope this helps. Patrick Patrick D. Holiman http://web.mac.com/pholitao http://www.acu-polarity.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 thanks for your post, patrick, on impaired growth in childhood. i'm curious, how frequently did you tx your young patient? k On Jan 31, 2008 2:04 PM, Patrick D. Holiman <patrick wrote: > Of course, this in theory is a Kidney Jing problem, so herbs to boost > Jing. > I have had some success with using Er Long Zuo Ci Wan with a young boy who > was not developing, had poor hearing and trouble in school. He has taken > this fornula regularly for 5 or 6 years and now looks like a normal narly > teenager who is making good grade. > One never knows what to attribute to the herb therapy and to a person's > personal effort, but when he is out of herbs he says he feels that he is > missing something. > I substitute Shi Chang Pu for Jiu Jie Chang Pu and add Lu Jiao Shuang > which is reputed to help developmental problems. I also rarely use Ci Shi as > it can be toxic if used over a long period of time. > I hope this helps. > Patrick > > Patrick D. Holiman > http://web.mac.com/pholitao > http://www.acu-polarity.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I use decocted powders. The dosage used is 3 grams twice a day. This young man has been very consistent over the past few years in taking this formula which is generally not the case with someone his age. He actually insist that his Mother refill the formula when he runs out. Consistent and long range consumption of the herbs seems to be a key here. This rarely happens with ADD or other unbalances of youth which require such care. Regards, Patrick Patrick D. Holiman http://web.mac.com/pholitao http://www.acu-polarity.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 i appreciate your reply on this issue. what formula are you using, and to tx what patterns presenting in your patient? kath On Feb 1, 2008 4:14 PM, Patrick D. Holiman <patrick wrote: > I use decocted powders. The dosage used is 3 grams twice a day. > This young man has been very consistent over the past few years in taking > this formula which is generally not the case with someone his age. He > actually insist that his Mother refill the formula when he runs out. > Consistent and long range consumption of the herbs seems to be a key here. > This rarely happens with ADD or other unbalances of youth which require such > care. > Regards, Patrick > > Patrick D. Holiman > http://web.mac.com/pholitao > http://www.acu-polarity.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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