Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hi to all. Dear Emily, if I'm not too late, may I suggest to add at the receipt Xiao Yao San: Mu Dan Pi (Paeonia suffr.), gr. 6-9 and Zhi Zi (Gardenia jasminoides), gr.6 for a while (3 weeks, and the repeat 3 weeks)? Then treat with a classic like Liu Wei Di Huang Wan, only adding a small amount of Huang Qi/Astragalus up to prevent further SP Qì deficiency and sweating (tonifying LU). Astragalus is a light warmer, depending on the doses. Sometimes could be more useful a thin and gentle warming up to prevent hot flushes, rather than cold drugs. Gabriele -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine Per conto di Emily Konstan Inviato: lunedì 7 gennaio 2008 20.56 A: Chinese Traditional Medicine Oggetto: herbal formula suggestions What would be the appropriate classical herbal formula for a patient with the patterns LV Qi stagnation, SP Qi deficiency, and KD (and/or LV) yin deficiency? I find that most yin tonifying formulas are too cloying for the Spleen, but something like Xiao Yao Wan doesn't address the yin deficiency. This is not for any particular patient, but it is a pattern I see a lot in perimenopausal and menopausal women, usually with symptoms like hot flashes and insomnia. I usually end up having to do a lot of modifications of a formula, but I would rather stick as close to the original classic formula as possible. I would appreciate any suggestions. Emily _______________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_ MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 If the patient is presenting with heat signs like the hot flashes but with the underlying basis of LIV/KI Yin Xu, two good traditional formulas come into mind: - Da Bu Yin wan - Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan You could use these in its entirety, or modify according to your needs. One or the other is sufficient, and not both together. The second formula, by the way, is a variation of Liu Wei Di Huang (which is primarilly neutral from a temperature persepective), but adding Zhi Mu and Huang Bai to address the deficiency heat symptoms that are presenting. --- " " <saudelligabriele wrote: > Hi to all. Dear Emily, if I'm not too late, may I > suggest to add at the > receipt Xiao Yao San: Mu Dan Pi (Paeonia suffr.), > gr. 6-9 and Zhi Zi > (Gardenia jasminoides), gr.6 for a while (3 weeks, > and the repeat 3 weeks)? > Then treat with a classic like Liu Wei Di Huang Wan, > only adding a small > amount of Huang Qi/Astragalus up to prevent further > SP Qì deficiency and > sweating (tonifying LU). Astragalus is a light > warmer, depending on the > doses. Sometimes could be more useful a thin and > gentle warming up to > prevent hot flushes, rather than cold drugs. > Gabriele > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Chinese Medicine > Chinese Medicine > Per conto di Emily > Konstan > Inviato: lunedì 7 gennaio 2008 20.56 > A: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Oggetto: herbal formula suggestions > > What would be the appropriate classical herbal > formula for a patient with > the patterns LV Qi stagnation, SP Qi deficiency, and > KD (and/or LV) yin > deficiency? I find that most yin tonifying formulas > are too cloying for the > Spleen, but something like Xiao Yao Wan doesn't > address the yin deficiency. > > This is not for any particular patient, but it is a > pattern I see a lot in > perimenopausal and menopausal women, usually with > symptoms like hot flashes > and insomnia. I usually end up having to do a lot > of modifications of a > formula, but I would rather stick as close to the > original classic formula > as possible. I would appreciate any suggestions. > > Emily > > _______________ > Put your friends on the big screen with Windows > Vista® + Windows Live™. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_ > MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at > Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia > for Chinese medicine and > acupuncture, click, > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia > > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any > duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this > message if absolutely > necessary. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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