Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Diabetes Type I is a genetic disease and is linked to a particular haplotype of the Major Histocompatability Complex...there are dietary changes that can be helpful. One in particular is the combination of Calcium and Vit D3 and a supplement called Chromate. The first combination reduces insulin resistance and the Chromate mimics the molecule that forms the receptor site for glucose on the outer cell membrane. Regards, Dr. Susan Thorpe-Vargas **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hello Group, I have been a " lurker " for some time with this group - I greatly enjoy the information and discussions that go on here. I've had a recent challenge occur in my family. My nine year old son was recently diagnosed with Diabetes Type I - just in the past week. His mother and I (and him) are taking it all in. He has had a history of food allergies, which I have treated with acupuncture and chinese herbs (we work with a chinese herbalist) for some time. We have had his allergy issues under control. Neither my wife or myself have diabetes in our family. I'm telling this to the group to gather any suggestions on treatment, the future, etc. I've had a long discussion with the Chinese Herbalist - he is of the opinion that the conventional therapy of Insulin injections is where we have to start and stablize my son's conditions. Again, any information that anyone in the group can provide or suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dallas Lakewood/Denver, Colorado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I am absolutely sure that Type I is a 100% genetic. I am a PhD Immunologist <grin> my field of interest is nutrition and its role in gene expression. However the Heritability of the disease varies with the population. Basically, heritability measures the amount the environment plays in the expression of the genes. A low heritability means that the environment plays a larger role in the clinical expression of the disease BUT the disease is still 100% genetic. As for citations. There is a study being done at Tufts right now I believe the researcher's name is Dr. Pappas...just use PubMed using search words Vit D, Calcium and insulin resistance, ditto for the haplotype...using search words MHC, diabetes and haplotype. I will look for the 4 valent chromium studies...it has been years since I have read the papers but I am sure they are still available. Regards, Susan **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Are you sure you do not mean Type II Diabetes (NIDDM)? My understanding is that the Type I appears to be auto-immune while type II is related to excessive amounts of insulin. A type I will need to be working with a pediatric endocrinologist, while a type II will see some change with supplement, diet and lifestyle changes. Maybe I am wrong. Do you have some research to support this supplemental regimen? Mike W. Bowser, L Ac ________________________________ > Chinese Medicine > Docvite > Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:46:55 -0500 > Re: Diabetes Type 1 > > > Diabetes Type I is a genetic disease and is linked to a particular haplotype > of the Major Histocompatability Complex...there are dietary changes that can > be helpful. One in particular is the combination of Calcium and Vit D3 and a > supplement called Chromate. The first combination reduces insulin resistance > and the Chromate mimics the molecule that forms the receptor site for > glucose on the outer cell membrane. Regards, Dr. Susan Thorpe-Vargas > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Thanks for your replies - I will search for the information and contact you if I cannot find it. Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 My son has been diagnosed with Type I. The Pediatric Endo. that we are working with seemed to indicate that in some cases there may be a hereditary component, but it is not clear. Also children with celiac seem to have a higher incidence of developing the disease (by what amount I do not know). In our case, our son had the food allergies, but the hereditary component is not clear in either his mother or father (me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 You are partly right in your assessment. I found a nice pdf that sums it up at http://www.jci.org/108/9/1247?content_type=full and yet I have not run across any nutritional info that can impact, not cure, this auto-immune problem. If you have a link to peer-reviewed studies, I would appreciate if you could post them. Thanks. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac ________________________________ > Chinese Medicine > Docvite > Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:42:10 -0500 > Re: Diabetes Type 1 > > > I am absolutely sure that Type I is a 100% genetic. I am a PhD Immunologist > _______________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Type I can also result from infections 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 My 19-year old niece has had type I diabetes since she was 12. She recently asked me if acupuncture and/or herbal medicine could help to stabilize her blood sugar. I did a lot of research, but most articles and studies are focused on type II diabetes. Here is a link an article from Acupuncture Today, which provides a nice summary of the benefits of acupuncture for diabetes. Some of the benefits would apply to either type I or II. http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28326 The doctors and nurses in your son's hospital should do a lot of education with you on how to manage the diabetes. With type I, your son no longer has the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas, so he will absolutely have to be on insulin. However, I believe that acupuncture can help to prevent any drastic blood sugar ups and downs by strengthening the Spleen and also by dealing with the emotional impact of the condition. There are also many herbs that have been shown to reduce blood sugar, but personally I would be wary of starting with herbs until you are comfortable managing the condition by conventional means. Driving the blood sugar too low could be extremely dangerous. It will be a big adjustment for your family, but your son can still have a very normal life. Good luck! Emily Chinese Medicine dallasacupuncture Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:52:41 +0000 Diabetes Type 1 Hello Group, I have been a " lurker " for some time with this group - I greatly enjoy the information and discussions that go on here. I've had a recent challenge occur in my family. My nine year old son was recently diagnosed with Diabetes Type I - just in the past week. His mother and I (and him) are taking it all in. He has had a history of food allergies, which I have treated with acupuncture and chinese herbs (we work with a chinese herbalist) for some time. We have had his allergy issues under control. Neither my wife or myself have diabetes in our family. I'm telling this to the group to gather any suggestions on treatment, the future, etc. I've had a long discussion with the Chinese Herbalist - he is of the opinion that the conventional therapy of Insulin injections is where we have to start and stablize my son's conditions. Again, any information that anyone in the group can provide or suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dallas Lakewood/Denver, Colorado _______________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 You might find some info at http://www.youngliving.us/pdfs/PIP_BalanceComplete.pdf under the references. Best of luck with this difficult problem. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac : emilylists: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:19:26 -0500RE: TCM - Diabetes Type 1 My 19-year old niece has had type I diabetes since she was 12. She recently asked me if acupuncture and/or herbal medicine could help to stabilize her blood sugar. I did a lot of research, but most articles and studies are focused on type II diabetes. Here is a link an article from Acupuncture Today, which provides a nice summary of the benefits of acupuncture for diabetes. Some of the benefits would apply to either type I or II.http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=28326The doctors and nurses in your son's hospital should do a lot of education with you on how to manage the diabetes. With type I, your son no longer has the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas, so he will absolutely have to be on insulin. However, I believe that acupuncture can help to prevent any drastic blood sugar ups and downs by strengthening the Spleen and also by dealing with the emotional impact of the condition. There are also many herbs that have been shown to reduce blood sugar, but personally I would be wary of starting with herbs until you are comfortable managing the condition by conventional means. Driving the blood sugar too low could be extremely dangerous.It will be a big adjustment for your family, but your son can still have a very normal life. Good luck!EmilyTo: Chinese Medicine: dallasacupuncture: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:52:41 +0000TCM - Diabetes Type 1Hello Group,I have been a " lurker " for some time with this group - I greatly enjoy the information and discussions that go on here.I've had a recent challenge occur in my family. My nine year old son was recently diagnosed with Diabetes Type I - just in the past week. His mother and I (and him) are taking it all in. He has had a history of food allergies, which I have treated with acupuncture and chinese herbs (we work with a chinese herbalist) for some time. We have had his allergy issues under control. Neither my wife or myself have diabetes in our family.I'm telling this to the group to gather any suggestions on treatment, the future, etc. I've had a long discussion with the Chinese Herbalist - he is of the opinion that the conventional therapy of Insulin injections is where we have to start and stablize my son's conditions.Again, any information that anyone in the group can provide or suggest would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,DallasLakewood/Denver, Colorado________Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give.http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hi Emily, Dallas and All, You'll notice that Dr. Denise Faustman, a Harvard researcher, discovered that her animal models (mice with diabetes type I) had stem cells for pancreatic insulin-producing cells in their spleens. When she suppressed the autoimmune cytotoxicity (immune cells killing the pancreatic insulin producing cells), she noticed that the spleen's stem cells easily replaced the insulin producing cells in her animal's pancreases. The mice were cured of diabetes I. This research was funded by Lee Iacocca in part because Dr. Faustman was having a hard time getting any funding. She was " supposed " to be working on putting stem cell clones into the mouse's pancreas. The research directors wanted stem cell cures, not novel and original research. She accidentally discovered that her mice already had the stem cells in their spleens. See http://www.massgeneral.org/diabetes/faculty_faustman.htm. There is a NY Times article that describes her work for the layman. You can read it here: http://www.iacoccafoundation.org/ny_times_a_diabetes_researcher.htm. Perhaps stimulating the Spleen function can be helpful. I have seen hospital formulas from Shanghai Hospital #1 that help. I can only report anecdotally that a friend of mine with Type I at age 52 used such a formula and reduced his insulin requirement by 60%. He was hoping to slow down the deterioration of his eyesight. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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