You should give your child Tylenol to treat a high fever, not!

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

I am writing this in response to the concerned parent of a patient of mine who

ran a high fever yesterday and felt that his correct response would be to give

the child tylenol to bring down his 104 degree temperature.

 

First a little about Tylenol aka Acetaminophen.

 

1. There is a clear connection between acute liver failure and even small

doses of Acetaminophen.Hepatology December 2005; 42(6): 1364-1372

2.Acetaminophen depletes the body of Glutathione a major bio-protector,

anti-aging substance and antioxident.

3, Acetaminophen increase the risk of asthma and chronic obstructive

pulmonary disease (COPD).

4. Regular use of Acetaminophen (and aspirin, BTW) has been shown to boost the

risk of developing kidney failure The New England Journal of Medicine December

20, 2001;345:1801-1808 (And according to Dr. Joseph Mercola, 15% of dialysis

patients are the results of kidney damage from aspirin and acetaminophen).

 

So those are enough reason why it is unwise in general to use Tylenol.

However in this case and for this patient it is particularly inappropriate. Let

me explain why: This child suffers from ticking and twitching. Chinese

medicine identifies any kind of uncontrolled movements the body makes as being

" Liver Wind. " Liver wind usually results from a patient who is under stress,

and severely liver blood depleted. With such a person, THE VERY WORST THING you

can do is to irritate the liver further, which is what Tylenol does.

 

If Tylenol was not bad enough, and if this child's liver were not vulnerable

enough, the very idea of bringing down fever with Tylenol is completely

antithetical to the well being of the immune system. (The only time one should

consider bringing down a high fever as a singular therapy without treating the

pathogen and building the immune function would be in the case of a RAPID rise

in fever to over 106 degrees, in order to prevent convulsions, and even then

using herbs, acupuncture and CST, very successfully and quickly can bring down

the fever without any side effects!) Fever is the body's reaction to the

presence of a pathogen. When the immune system picks up the presence of such a

pathogen, metabolism is increased, antibodies are produced and the body

temperature rises. This gives the body an opportunity to fight and defeat that

which is trying to harm it. BUT JUST WHEN YOUR BODY NEEDS TO BE HOTTER, TO WORK

FASTER AND WITH MORE VIGILANCE, TO PRODUCE MORE

ANTI-BODIES, BY TAKING TYLENOL, YOU ARE COOLING OFF AND SLOWING DOWN THE IMMUNE

SYSTEM, ALLOWING THE PATHOGEN TO PROLIFERATE, AND G-D FORBID, PROLONGING THE

ILLNESS!

 

Please don't ever give your children tylenol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In response to:

" using herbs, acupuncture and CST, very successfully and quickly can

bring down the fever without any side effects "

 

that works great if the parent is the acupuncturist/herbalist but in

the middle of the night when your own child is roasting, a parent can

not go to the dr. one dose of children's motrin, tylenol, or other

fever reducer at such a high fever will most likely not cause the harm

you mentioned.

 

just a practical statement. Let's not be too hard on mainstream

parents, but of course educate them so they don't overdo it, esp with

antibiotics.

sami

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sami,

 

That was my implication. I appreciate you expressing it. Unfortunately, too

many sincere parents zealously miss the forest for the trees, refusing to use

any chemical medicine. I believe that any extremism is dangerous and a parent

must alway act with prudent deliberation.

 

Sincerely,

 

Yehuda

 

Sami Rank LAc <herbsnacupnxr wrote:

In response to:

" using herbs, acupuncture and CST, very successfully and quickly can

bring down the fever without any side effects "

 

that works great if the parent is the acupuncturist/herbalist but in

the middle of the night when your own child is roasting, a parent can

not go to the dr. one dose of children's motrin, tylenol, or other

fever reducer at such a high fever will most likely not cause the harm

you mentioned.

 

just a practical statement. Let's not be too hard on mainstream

parents, but of course educate them so they don't overdo it, esp with

antibiotics.

sami

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It also is implied as the cause of Reye's syndrome. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

TraditionalJewishMedicineandTCM: :

Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:11:27 -0800You should give your child Tylenol

to treat a high fever, not!

 

 

 

 

Dear friends, I am writing this in response to the concerned parent of a patient

of mine who ran a high fever yesterday and felt that his correct response would

be to give the child tylenol to bring down his 104 degree temperature.First a

little about Tylenol aka Acetaminophen. 1. There is a clear connection between

acute liver failure and even small doses of Acetaminophen.Hepatology December

2005; 42(6): 1364-13722.Acetaminophen depletes the body of Glutathione a major

bio-protector, anti-aging substance and antioxident.3, Acetaminophen increase

the risk of asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).4. Regular

use of Acetaminophen (and aspirin, BTW) has been shown to boost the risk of

developing kidney failure The New England Journal of Medicine December 20,

2001;345:1801-1808 (And according to Dr. Joseph Mercola, 15% of dialysis

patients are the results of kidney damage from aspirin and acetaminophen).So

those are enough reason why it is unwise in general to use Tylenol. However in

this case and for this patient it is particularly inappropriate. Let me explain

why: This child suffers from ticking and twitching. Chinese medicine identifies

any kind of uncontrolled movements the body makes as being " Liver Wind. " Liver

wind usually results from a patient who is under stress, and severely liver

blood depleted. With such a person, THE VERY WORST THING you can do is to

irritate the liver further, which is what Tylenol does.If Tylenol was not bad

enough, and if this child's liver were not vulnerable enough, the very idea of

bringing down fever with Tylenol is completely antithetical to the well being of

the immune system. (The only time one should consider bringing down a high fever

as a singular therapy without treating the pathogen and building the immune

function would be in the case of a RAPID rise in fever to over 106 degrees, in

order to prevent convulsions, and even then using herbs, acupuncture and CST,

very successfully and quickly can bring down the fever without any side

effects!) Fever is the body's reaction to the presence of a pathogen. When the

immune system picks up the presence of such a pathogen, metabolism is increased,

antibodies are produced and the body temperature rises. This gives the body an

opportunity to fight and defeat that which is trying to harm it. BUT JUST WHEN

YOUR BODY NEEDS TO BE HOTTER, TO WORK FASTER AND WITH MORE VIGILANCE, TO PRODUCE

MOREANTI-BODIES, BY TAKING TYLENOL, YOU ARE COOLING OFF AND SLOWING DOWN THE

IMMUNE SYSTEM, ALLOWING THE PATHOGEN TO PROLIFERATE, AND G-D FORBID, PROLONGING

THE ILLNESS!Please don't ever give your children

tylenol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yehuda L. Frischman, L.Ac, CST,

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[Guest guest]

I live with a pediatrician trained at Albert Einstein School of

Medicine and Research, who says aspirin does not cause Reyes

Syndrome. I do not have references for this, but he tells me that

that children came in with these symptoms and one common ingredient

was that they had taken aspirin. Their parents had given them aspirin

for their symptoms, the symptoms of Reyes Syndrome. The assumption

that aspirin was the cause was disproved, but meanwhile a very large

public relations campaign was issued by tylenol....the rest is

history. It may be gossip, but I am familiar witht he reliability of

my source, and I don't have the time to track down the citations. He

also says that aspirin is hands down the safest such medication,

providing the gastric side affects are not a problem.

 

Happy New Year and heres a toast to sorting out all the self

interested P.R. misinformation policies!

[Guest guest]

I second that but I think many TCM herbalists are not aware of various

other, extremely effective ways to administer herbs. For babies and young

children, my favorite is an herbal bath. There are also very good reasons to

learn a few locally growing common herbs. Willow bark and or leaves is a god

one to know and the many species of willow seems to be ubiquitous in most

areas. Simply bring a large pan of water to a rolling boil and throw in as

much willow leaves as you can -- even stuffing the pot. White poplar or

poplar is also very effective. Both contain salicylic acid, which is

considered the active fever-lowering ingredient in aspirin (originally

derived from another herb, called meadowsweet -- which can also be used if

you have it). Let the herbs steep in a covered pot of water, pour into a

basin with room temperature or slightly warm water and place the baby in the

bath for about 20 minutes. usually one treatment works well but it can be

repeated up to three times daily.

 

A much better alternative to any of the Acetaminophen products is baby

aspirin. Its synthetic but at least originally derived from herbs.

 

The golden rule about fevers is to keep the body and feet warm (one can use

a heated hot brick wrapped in a towel) and the head cool. This is done by

frequent sponging off the forehead. The major danger of a fever is

convulsions resulting from the brain becoming overheated.

 

Michael Tierra

 

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On Behalf Of yehuda frischman

Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:11 PM

TraditionalJewishMedicineandTCM

You should give your child Tylenol to treat a high fever,

not!

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

I am writing this in response to the concerned parent of a patient of mine

who ran a high fever yesterday and felt that his correct response would be

to give the child tylenol to bring down his 104 degree temperature.

 

First a little about Tylenol aka Acetaminophen.

 

1. There is a clear connection between acute liver failure and even small

doses of Acetaminophen.Hepatology December 2005; 42(6): 1364-1372

2.Acetaminophen depletes the body of Glutathione a major bio-protector,

anti-aging substance and antioxident.

3, Acetaminophen increase the risk of asthma and chronic obstructive

pulmonary disease (COPD).

4. Regular use of Acetaminophen (and aspirin, BTW) has been shown to boost

the risk of developing kidney failure The New England Journal of Medicine

December 20, 2001;345:1801-1808 (And according to Dr. Joseph Mercola, 15% of

dialysis patients are the results of kidney damage from aspirin and

acetaminophen).

 

So those are enough reason why it is unwise in general to use Tylenol.

However in this case and for this patient it is particularly inappropriate.

Let me explain why: This child suffers from ticking and twitching. Chinese

medicine identifies any kind of uncontrolled movements the body makes as

being " Liver Wind. " Liver wind usually results from a patient who is under

stress, and severely liver blood depleted. With such a person, THE VERY

WORST THING you can do is to irritate the liver further, which is what

Tylenol does.

 

If Tylenol was not bad enough, and if this child's liver were not vulnerable

enough, the very idea of bringing down fever with Tylenol is completely

antithetical to the well being of the immune system. (The only time one

should consider bringing down a high fever as a singular therapy without

treating the pathogen and building the immune function would be in the case

of a RAPID rise in fever to over 106 degrees, in order to prevent

convulsions, and even then using herbs, acupuncture and CST, very

successfully and quickly can bring down the fever without any side effects!)

Fever is the body's reaction to the presence of a pathogen. When the immune

system picks up the presence of such a pathogen, metabolism is increased,

antibodies are produced and the body temperature rises. This gives the body

an opportunity to fight and defeat that which is trying to harm it. BUT JUST

WHEN YOUR BODY NEEDS TO BE HOTTER, TO WORK FASTER AND WITH MORE VIGILANCE,

TO PRODUCE MORE

ANTI-BODIES, BY TAKING TYLENOL, YOU ARE COOLING OFF AND SLOWING DOWN THE

IMMUNE SYSTEM, ALLOWING THE PATHOGEN TO PROLIFERATE, AND G-D FORBID,

PROLONGING THE ILLNESS!

 

Please don't ever give your children tylenol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not as a response but a story I was almost a participant.

 

My cousin called me. Her little boy, he was 2.5 then, had High Fever but was

alert and playing with older brother, suddenly fell unconscious, became bluish

with almost no breathing. She was in panic. My aunt (her mother) grabbed the boy

and put him under running cold water. The boy almost instantaneously came about.

By the time I arrived ambulance was taking him. He still had high Temp but no

distress.

 

 

One more parallel point. My cousin family ware new in Canada. Just about 2

weeks. Still did not have health coverage yet. Charges for an ambulance service

would’ve been between $300 - $400. At that time This was big money for my

cousin. I talked to ambulance people.

They came back and told me that Emergency Department will absorb the cost. I

was very impressed.

 

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

wrote: Thank

you Sami,

 

That was my implication. I appreciate you expressing it. Unfortunately, too

many sincere parents zealously miss the forest for the trees, refusing to use

any chemical medicine. I believe that any extremism is dangerous and a parent

must alway act with prudent deliberation.

 

Sincerely,

 

Yehuda

 

Sami Rank LAc <herbsnacupnxr wrote:

In response to:

" using herbs, acupuncture and CST, very successfully and quickly can

bring down the fever without any side effects "

 

that works great if the parent is the acupuncturist/herbalist but in

the middle of the night when your own child is roasting, a parent can

not go to the dr. one dose of children's motrin, tylenol, or other

fever reducer at such a high fever will most likely not cause the harm

you mentioned.

 

just a practical statement. Let's not be too hard on mainstream

parents, but of course educate them so they don't overdo it, esp with

antibiotics.

sami

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Laura,

 

This is news to me. Please ask for the reference as I was unable to find

anything disputing the connection between aspirin and Reye's syndrome.

Personally I would think twice before encouraging parents to use it unless the

evidence was irrefutable. There is just too much suspicious evidence. IMO,

when in doubt, we must always err to the side of caution. BTW, as far as the

safety of aspirin goes, I can tell you that I know of at least one case, of a

patient who took a baby aspirin daily (unbeknownst to the practitioner), and was

prescribed long term, a formula that included Dang Gui. The patient died of

internal bleeding. From this I learn the following lessons: Always double check

to verify EVERYTHING the patient is taking before deciding on herbs to

prescribe, don't underestimate the interaction between aspirin and herbs nor the

potency of " innocent " little baby aspirin.

 

Yehuda

 

Yehuda

 

Laura Cooley <lauramon wrote:

I live with a pediatrician trained at Albert Einstein School of

Medicine and Research, who says aspirin does not cause Reyes

Syndrome. I do not have references for this, but he tells me that

that children came in with these symptoms and one common ingredient

was that they had taken aspirin. Their parents had given them aspirin

for their symptoms, the symptoms of Reyes Syndrome. The assumption

that aspirin was the cause was disproved, but meanwhile a very large

public relations campaign was issued by tylenol....the rest is

history. It may be gossip, but I am familiar witht he reliability of

my source, and I don't have the time to track down the citations. He

also says that aspirin is hands down the safest such medication,

providing the gastric side affects are not a problem.

 

Happy New Year and heres a toast to sorting out all the self

interested P.R. misinformation policies!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

There is a lot of evidence that aspirin used post viral illness is the cause of

this

condition. You would have to provide a lot of evidence as this is what is also

taught in many of my medical courses as well. I would educate patients about

this possibility and encourage alternatives. The risk is not worth the

experiment. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

: :

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:47:45 -0800Re: Re: You should give your child

Tylenol to treat a high fever, not!

 

 

 

 

Dear Laura,This is news to me. Please ask for the reference as I was unable to

find anything disputing the connection between aspirin and Reye's syndrome.

Personally I would think twice before encouraging parents to use it unless the

evidence was irrefutable. There is just too much suspicious evidence. IMO, when

in doubt, we must always err to the side of caution. BTW, as far as the safety

of aspirin goes, I can tell you that I know of at least one case, of a patient

who took a baby aspirin daily (unbeknownst to the practitioner), and was

prescribed long term, a formula that included Dang Gui. The patient died of

internal bleeding. From this I learn the following lessons: Always double check

to verify EVERYTHING the patient is taking before deciding on herbs to

prescribe, don't underestimate the interaction between aspirin and herbs nor the

potency of " innocent " little baby aspirin.Yehuda Yehuda Laura Cooley

<lauramon wrote:I live with a pediatrician trained at Albert

Einstein School of Medicine and Research, who says aspirin does not cause Reyes

Syndrome. I do not have references for this, but he tells me that that children

came in with these symptoms and one common ingredient was that they had taken

aspirin. Their parents had given them aspirin for their symptoms, the symptoms

of Reyes Syndrome. The assumption that aspirin was the cause was disproved, but

meanwhile a very large public relations campaign was issued by tylenol....the

rest is history. It may be gossip, but I am familiar witht he reliability of my

source, and I don't have the time to track down the citations. He also says that

aspirin is hands down the safest such medication, providing the gastric side

affects are not a problem.Happy New Year and heres a toast to sorting out all

the self interested P.R. misinformation policies! Yehuda L. Frischman, L.Ac,

CST, SERBe a

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now.

[Guest guest]

Ok, thanks for responding. I should have clarified my memory before I

wrote to the group, as I remembered parts of the 10 year old

conversation better than the whole. First of all, I would never

recommend to parents to use aspirin for their children and I didn't

suggest that. I believe we are forbidden by law to do that. The only

time I have pressured any patient to not do what their doctor said

was an HIV patient with pneumonia and allergic to antibiotics, who

was told to eat milkshakes daily. I told him not to drink milkshakes

(and gave him herbs, resolving the 2 month long case of pneumonia in

about 4-5 days).

 

Reyes syndrome, as I understand it now ( and tell me if you think

there is reason to suspect this), is a sequelae of a previous viral

infection, first acknowledged around 1980. It is linked to aspirin,

but not all Reyes involves aspirin as a factor, technically placing

it in the not " caused " by aspirin, only linked. Also, people were

using aspirin for a very long time, and Reye's syndrome is a new

phenomena. If you can find evidence of it existing before 1980's, I

would be interested. So one could be curious as to why it appeared at

a certain time, linked to a medication in extremely common use for

decades. Tylenol jumped on this issue immediately and promoted the

strategy of not using aspirin for adults, whom my source says do not

get Reye's Syndrome. He no longer practices pediatrics and does adult

psychiatry, so it is possible he has not kept up with this issue.

Again , if you are aware that this is old information, please tell.

Tylenol promoted this idea with a full court press, advertising on

TV, one on one visits with doctors, hosting lunches for docs at very

expensive restaurants...... " thru every means possible " .

 

The absolutely wonderful thing about this group is the discussion

that happens. Reconciling with our medicine and approach, what

allopathic medicine and it's practitioners say/learn/express in a

dumbed-down form for patients, and then interpreting it to patients

is an ongoing study for me. Accurately using terms that MDs use

amongst themselves is something I am challenged on on a daily basis.

I have been made aware of ideas/terms that are commonly used in our

world (and by that, I mean other LAcs, DOMs, some teachers of TCM

using those terms and descriptions) that are incorrect technically.

I found my own language to be quite sloppy and imprecise at times.

For example, I have heard many LAcs say rubbing alcohol is a toxin

(maybe just a result from living in Austin, Tx, where open containers

of alcohol in a car were long legally permitted). But alcohol is a

bacteriostat, not a toxin. I very much appreciate knowing what is

taught/promoted in the allopathic world and very much appreciate the

input and corrections by those schooled in allopathic medicine,

especially those on this list. I do believe that learning oriental

medicine first and then learning about allopathic medicine is a much

more fruitful and useful approach to healing than the other way

around. Especially when I hear MDs disagree on some basic issues

(some I know say alcohol is absolutely necessary when penetrating

the skin with an object, and others say no). When I probe deeper into

the issue, it turns out to be a lot more complicated than one might

think.

 

I will resist the temptation to post before I have checked my

information. But I stand by my toast, ferreting out the subtle

complexities of medicine and the machinery that drives it, is a

worthy goal, though time consuming task. Cheers, Laura Cooley

[Guest guest]

Hi Laura,

 

My mom was diagnosed with Reyes Syndrome in the early 70's, so there is

apparently earlier knowledge of this phenomenon than 1980. She had it for

several years before being diagnosed. I can't say for sure, but I don't believe

she has used aspirin very much. I'd be interested to hear if there is any

commonality in patients with Reyes Syndrome, according to TCM diagnostic

principles.

 

Congratulations on resolving the pneumonia in your patient. Why were daily

milkshakes recommended, and who did that?

 

 

 

 

 

Laura Cooley <lauramon wrote:The only time I have pressured any

patient to not do what their doctor said was an HIV patient with pneumonia and

allergic to antibiotics, who

was told to eat milkshakes daily. I told him not to drink milkshakes

(and gave him herbs, resolving the 2 month long case of pneumonia in

about 4-5 days).

 

Reyes syndrome, as I understand it now ( and tell me if you think

there is reason to suspect this), is a sequelae of a previous viral

infection, first acknowledged around 1980. It is linked to aspirin,

but not all Reyes involves aspirin as a factor, technically placing

it in the not " caused " by aspirin, only linked. Also, people were

using aspirin for a very long time, and Reye's syndrome is a new

phenomena. If you can find evidence of it existing before 1980's, I

would be interested. So one could be curious as to why it appeared at

a certain time, linked to a medication in extremely common use for

decades.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Laura,

 

By comparing those with Reyes following aspirin usage to those not using

aspirin, we can argue that it is not the only causative factor. But when

we see such large % of Reyes who have taken the aspirin, we need to

consider the stats carefully. If simply avoiding aspirin greatly reduces

these numbers, then it is prudent we educate our patients with small

children about this. Patient education about possible side-effects is

not illegal to the best of my knowledge depending upon how you

approach the subject. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

:

lauramon: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:50:19 -0500Re:

You should give your child Tylenol to treat a high fever, not!

 

 

 

 

Ok, thanks for responding. I should have clarified my memory before I wrote to

the group, as I remembered parts of the 10 year old conversation better than the

whole. First of all, I would never recommend to parents to use aspirin for their

children and I didn't suggest that. I believe we are forbidden by law to do

that. The only time I have pressured any patient to not do what their doctor

said was an HIV patient with pneumonia and allergic to antibiotics, who was told

to eat milkshakes daily. I told him not to drink milkshakes (and gave him herbs,

resolving the 2 month long case of pneumonia in about 4-5 days).Reyes syndrome,

as I understand it now ( and tell me if you think there is reason to suspect

this), is a sequelae of a previous viral infection, first acknowledged around

1980. It is linked to aspirin, but not all Reyes involves aspirin as a factor,

technically placing it in the not " caused " by aspirin, only linked. Also, people

were using aspirin for a very long time, and Reye's syndrome is a new phenomena.

If you can find evidence of it existing before 1980's, I would be interested. So

one could be curious as to why it appeared at a certain time, linked to a

medication in extremely common use for decades. Tylenol jumped on this issue

immediately and promoted the strategy of not using aspirin for adults, whom my

source says do not get Reye's Syndrome. He no longer practices pediatrics and

does adult psychiatry, so it is possible he has not kept up with this issue.

Again , if you are aware that this is old information, please tell. Tylenol

promoted this idea with a full court press, advertising on TV, one on one visits

with doctors, hosting lunches for docs at very expensive restaurants...... " thru

every means possible " .The absolutely wonderful thing about this group is the

discussion that happens. Reconciling with our medicine and approach, what

allopathic medicine and it's practitioners say/learn/express in a dumbed-down

form for patients, and then interpreting it to patients is an ongoing study for

me. Accurately using terms that MDs use amongst themselves is something I am

challenged on on a daily basis. I have been made aware of ideas/terms that are

commonly used in our world (and by that, I mean other LAcs, DOMs, some teachers

of TCM using those terms and descriptions) that are incorrect technically. I

found my own language to be quite sloppy and imprecise at times. For example, I

have heard many LAcs say rubbing alcohol is a toxin (maybe just a result from

living in Austin, Tx, where open containers of alcohol in a car were long

legally permitted). But alcohol is a bacteriostat, not a toxin. I very much

appreciate knowing what is taught/promoted in the allopathic world and very much

appreciate the input and corrections by those schooled in allopathic medicine,

especially those on this list. I do believe that learning oriental medicine

first and then learning about allopathic medicine is a much more fruitful and

useful approach to healing than the other way around. Especially when I hear MDs

disagree on some basic issues (some I know say alcohol is absolutely necessary

when penetrating the skin with an object, and others say no). When I probe

deeper into the issue, it turns out to be a lot more complicated than one might

think.I will resist the temptation to post before I have checked my information.

But I stand by my toast, ferreting out the subtle complexities of medicine and

the machinery that drives it, is a worthy goal, though time consuming task.

Cheers, Laura Cooley

 

 

 

 

 

 

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