Help with Herb Location or Substitution

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haha Hi Nam, no problem, I should have quoted my sources, what you say makes

sense. Flaws and Macioca are my sources. I wonder if you are personally familiar

with this herb. If that is the case, could you give us your usage and so on?

Thanks!

Hugo

 

 

dr_namnguyen58 <dr_namnguyen58

Chinese Medicine

Monday, 5 November, 2007 7:27:09 AM

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Hugo,

 

If you can define more clearly, I would like to learn more about

 

She Nan Ye. Please do not feel offensive. I 've just want to educate

 

myself. This seems strange to me, probably I am strange myself. I

 

cannot see the She Nan Ye going into the kid-liv nor tonify and

 

warming them.

 

I see acrid, bitter enters the ( Lu-He ), neutral ( not warming ).

 

Lu-He I thought it is the upperjiao, pertainging to Qi ( chest or

 

Pectorial, Qi of receiving ), Ki-Liv is the lowerjiao ( The Qi of

 

discharging ). I do not see how a neutral herb can warm up the Ki or

 

uterus either. How an acrid and bitter can tonify an organ such as a

 

Liver and Kidney. Bitter clears heat and breaks down mass ( I think it

 

has sedative property ), acrid activates Qi ( moves qi and blood, it

 

may damages Qi and blood if no Qi or blood tonifying accompanied ). I

 

may have missed some points.

 

 

 

Nam Nguyen

 

 

 

Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , Hugo Ramiro

 

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> Hi David:

 

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> Shi Nan Ye is acrid, bitter and neutral in energy. It enters the

 

Liver and Kidneys, opens the luo, expels wind and boosts the Kidneys.

 

It treats female infertility with chilly low back and menstrual

 

irregularity. It is uncommonly used in clinical practice.

 

> Maciocca is using it to tonify and warm the Kidney Yang and warm

 

the Uterus.

 

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> Hugo

 

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> David Toone <david

 

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> Sunday, 4 November, 2007 9:30:50 PM

 

> Help with Herb Location or Substitution

 

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> Hello,

 

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> I was reading on the Maciocia Obstetrics and Gynecology text about

 

> infertility formulas and I came across the herb

 

> Shi Nan Ye

 

> . I am neither able to find reference material for this herb, nor am

 

> I able to locate it through the herbs companies. Assuming that it is

 

> not available in the US, I was wondering if someone could provide

 

> more information about this herb, so I can choose an available

 

> substitute.

 

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> Many thanks

 

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> David Toone MSOM, L.Ac.

 

> Hill County Health

 

> Acupuncture Center of Atlanta

 

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