Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi Richard, I sent you a study report that examined the link between acupuncture and connective tissues that you might find interesting. The conclusion I find particularly interesting to the discussion of sham AP. The FASEB Journal express article 10.1096/fj.01-0925fje. Published online April 10, 2002. Evidence of Connective Tissue Involvement in Acupuncture Helene M. Langevin*, David L. Churchill*, Junru Wu & #134;, Gary J. Badger§, Jason A. Yandow*, James R. Fox & #135;, and Martin H. Krag & #135; *Departments of Neurology, & #134;Physics, & #135;Orthopaedics and Rehabilitation, and §Medical Biostatistics, University of Vermont College of Medicine, Burlington, Vermont Corresponding author: Helene M. Langevin, Department of Neurology, Given C423, University of Vermont College of Medicine, Burlington VT 05405. E-mail: hlangevi\ ABSTRACT Acupuncture needle manipulation gives rise to & #147;needle grasp, & #148; a biomechanical phenomenon characterized by an increase in the force necessary to pull the needle out of the tissue (pullout force). This study investigates the hypothesis that winding of connective tissue, rather than muscle contraction, is the mechanism responsible for needle grasp. We performed 1) measurements of pullout force in humans with and without needle penetration of muscle; 2) measurements of pullout force in anesthetized rats, with and without needle rotation, followed by measurements of connective tissue volume surrounding the needle; 3) imaging of rat abdominal wall explants, with and without needle rotation, using ultrasound scanning acoustic microscopy. We found 1) no evidence that increased penetration of muscle results in greater pullout force than increased penetration of subcutaneous tissue; 2) that both pullout force and subcutaneous tissue volume were increased by needle rotation; 3) that increased periodic architectural order was present in subcutaneous tissue with rotation, compared with no rotation. These data support connective tissue winding as the mechanism responsible for the increase in pullout force induced by needle rotation. Winding may allow needle movements to deliver a mechanical signal into the tissue and may be key to acupuncture & #146;s therapeutic mechanism. Key Words: biomechanics • subcutaneous tissue • mechanical stress • ultrasound • histology Chinese Medicine , acudoc11 wrote: > > > Tom > > This is the crux of my experience to be presented at the Fascia Conference > held at Harvard next week by the use of BaGuaFa (use of GuaSha and > BaGuan/cupping). > > Acupuncture with the capital " A " encompasses all body modalities (including > acupuncture needles) which affects not only the neuro-vascular systems but > possibly as important or maybe even more important the Extra Cellular Matrix - > the complete network of fascia and other connective tissue. As the skin is > one continuous structure from head to toe....so is the fascia. > > Richard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi Tom Appreciate the study. I tried contacting Dr. Langevin quite a number of years ago on this subject with no response. She will be lecturing at the Fascia Conference at Harvard next week and you can be sure she will be exposed to my empirical findings. BaGuaFa dynamically affects connective tissue (Extra Cellular Matrix including the ground substance) in ways that needles cannot. This is not to say that needles don't have function and great benefit. Richard In a message dated 9/26/2007 3:02:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, tom.verhaeghe writes: Hi Richard, I sent you a study report that examined the link between acupuncture and connective tissues that you might find interesting. The conclusion I find particularly interesting to the discussion of sham AP. The FASEB Journal express article 10.1096/fj.01-The FASEB Journal expr online April 10, 2002. Evidence of Connective Tissue Involvement in Acupuncture Helene M. Langevin*, David L. Churchill*, Junru Wu & #134;, Gary J. Badger§, Jason A. Yandow*, James R. Fox & #135;, and Martin H. Krag & #135; *Departments of Neurology, & #134;Physics, & #135;Orthopaedics and Rehabilitation, and §Medical Biostatistics, University of Vermont College of Medicine, Burlington, Vermont Corresponding author: Helene M. Langevin, Department of Neurology, Given C423, University of Vermont College of Medicine, Burlington VT 05405. E-mail: _hlangevi_ (hlangevi) \ ABSTRACT Acupuncture needle manipulation gives rise to & #147;needle grasp, & #148; a biomechanical phenomenon characterized by an increase in the force necessary to pull the needle out of the tissue (pullout force). This study investigates the hypothesis that winding of connective tissue, rather than muscle contraction, is the mechanism responsible for needle grasp. We performed 1) measurements of pullout force in humans with and without needle penetration of muscle; 2) measurements of pullout force in anesthetized rats, with and without needle rotation, followed by measurements of connective tissue volume surrounding the needle; 3) imaging of rat abdominal wall explants, with and without needle rotation, using ultrasound scanning acoustic microscopy. We found 1) no evidence that increased penetration of muscle results in greater pullout force than increased penetration of subcutaneous tissue; 2) that both pullout force and subcutaneous tissue volume were increased by needle rotation; 3) that increased periodic architectural order was present in subcutaneous tissue with rotation, compared with no rotation. These data support connective tissue winding as the mechanism responsible for the increase in pullout force induced by needle rotation. Winding may allow needle movements to deliver a mechanical signal into the tissue and may be key to acupuncture & <WBR>#146;s therap mechanism. Key Words: biomechanics • subcutaneous tissue • mechanical stress • ultrasound • histology ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi Tom I have been speaking for years on this subject in this forum. Sorry you may have missed it. Possibly you can go into the archives and review. You should be able to locate uploaded files of pictures which should still be here. Abstract which was accepted by the Scientific Committee for Poster presentation next week is found at: _http://www.fascia2007.com/abstract_pdf/Freiberg%20(15)%20-%20Carpal%20Tunnel% 20Syndrome%20Resolved%20by%20Ba%20Gua%20Fa.pdf_ (http://www.fascia2007.com/abstract_pdf/Freiberg%20(15)%20-%20Carpal%20Tunnel%20\ Syndrome%20Resolved%20by%20B a%20Gua%20Fa.pdf) Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is just one of the simplest applications of BaGuaFa. Regards, Richard In a message dated 9/26/2007 3:00:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tom.verhaeghe writes: Hi Richard, would you care to elaborate a bit on this forum? I for one am very interested in what you may have to say on this subject. Regards, Tom. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi Richard, would you care to elaborate a bit on this forum? I for one am very interested in what you may have to say on this subject. Regards, Tom. ---- acudoc11 26/09/2007 20:15:40 Chinese Medicine Re: Acupuncture and back pain in the news- fasciae & mesenchyme BaGuaFa dynamically affects connective tissue (Extra Cellular Matrix including the ground substance) in ways that needles cannot. This is not to say that needles don't have function and great benefit. Richard Recent Activity 7New Members 1New Files Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 In a message dated 9/27/2007 12:29:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jellyphish writes: Richard, Both of your links are dead. Could you repost please? Regards, Tymothy (_http://www.fascia2007.com/abstracts.php_ (http://www.fascia2007.com/abstracts.php) ) (_http://www.fascia2007.com/abstract_pdf/Freiberg%20(15)%20-%20Carpal%20Tunnel %20Syndrome%20Resolved%20by%20Ba%20Gua%20Fa.pdf_ (http://www.fascia2007.com/abstract_pdf/Freiberg%20(15)%20-%20Carpal%20Tunnel%20\ Syndrome%20Resolved%20by%20 Ba%20Gua%20Fa.pdf) ) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Richard, Both of your links are dead. Could you repost please? Regards, Tymothy Chinese Medicine , acudoc11 wrote: > > > Hi Tom > > I have been speaking for years on this subject in this forum. > Sorry you may have missed it. Possibly you can go into the archives and > review. > You should be able to locate uploaded files of pictures which should still > be here. > > Abstract which was accepted by the Scientific Committee for Poster > presentation next week is found at: > > _http://www.fascia2007.com/abstract_pdf/Freiberg%20(15)%20-%20Carpal%20Tunnel% > 20Syndrome%20Resolved%20by%20Ba%20Gua%20Fa.pdf_ > (http://www.fascia2007.com/abstract_pdf/Freiberg%20(15)%20-%20Carpal%20Tunnel%20\ Syndrome%20Resolved%20by%20B > a%20Gua%20Fa.pdf) > > Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is just one of the simplest applications of BaGuaFa. > > Regards, > Richard In a message dated 9/26/2007 3:00:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > tom.verhaeghe writes: > > Hi Richard, > > would you care to elaborate a bit on this forum? I for one am very > interested in what you may have to say on this subject. > > Regards, > > Tom. > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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