Pain and Dying was: pain in the process of reversing pathogenesis

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Hi Beata: I don't follow your reasoning. From what I gathered, Yehuda did not

reference intractable or horrific pain. It could be argued on the other side of

the coin that some would rather die facing their (perhaps horrific) pain, than

to die, unknowingly, in a drug-induced stupor.

I believe that pretty much everyone on this list concurs that certain types of

pain need to be treated symptomatically as quickly and completely as possible.

Where we draw that line is ill-defined, largely because it depends on the

particular time, place, patient and practitioner.

Could you tell us more about your experiences, and what parts of CM you brought

to bear on the problems you encountered? This would be very enlightening.

Finally, in the Buddhist and Daoist tradition it is imperative that people die

with two factors in place: to be clear of mind, and to be pain-free. We could

say, however, that the real meaning of this is " peacefully " , and it is possible

(although unusual) to die peacefully without the two previously mentioned

factors being in place.

 

Thanks,

Hugo

 

 

" coastacu " <coastacu

Chinese Medicine

Wednesday, 22 August, 2007 6:41:35 PM

Re:pain in the process of reversing pathogenesis

 

Yehuda,

<<pain is a gift which we DO have a choice in dealing with: either

ignoring, avoiding or blocking (which resolves nothing and can actually

exascerbate the accompanying cause) or listing, releasing and

resolving>>.

 

Having spent some time in a hospice program as an acupuncturist I

have seen the ravaging effects of illness, debilitation, and

intractable pain. I have seen those unfortunate souls who have died in

horrific pain for whom nothing could be done. I came to greatly admire

the " No Pain " credo that offends you so.The hospice patients wanted to

pass with dignity and peace but it is darned difficult to do that when

pain takes over. I'll bet not one of them saw their pain as a 'gift'.

 

I pray when my time comes that I will go gracefully and easily, with

or without pain meds as needed.

 

Peace

Beata

 

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