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I am wandering if people have experience using Mucuna Pruriens? What have you

found, and what have you used it for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Joy Bannerman

Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:40 PM

Re: Herb powders

 

 

 

I'm a medical botanist and have conducted medicinal

plant expeditions/collections in muggy, fetid

swamp/marsh/wetland/tropical environments. So I had

to learn in a hurry how to effectively deal with all

kinds of herbal compounds, from all plant parts --

keeping the range in tact from the field to the

delivery of processed materials to the laboratory.

Outsmarting water-borne parasitic and other plant

contaminants taught me several things that might be of

use:

 

(1) Different plant compounds react differently to

chemical components of air and water. Hence, there's

no one simple " do " or " don't " . Some herbal compounds

are very stable, some very unstable; some

water-soluble, some not; some reactive with the basic

constituents of air and water, some not, etc.

 

(2) Any herbal product is going to have some fungal

spores somewhere. They are opportunistic and will be

delighted with any moisture you might like to provide

them.

 

(3) Other contaminants may be present in air and

water, including bacterial, as well as a vast array

of human-made chemical pollutants floating around.

These will no doubt be irresistibly drawn to your

ground plant material.

 

(4) Even controlling for air and water, there are the

variables of temperature and light. Too cold

(especially frozen), too hot (especially exposed to

light) and you're going to lose at least some of the

constituents.

 

(5) Even the grinder/grinding process you choose can

affect the final product if it gives off too much

heat/friction. Slow and cool should be your guides.

 

Here are some suggestions -- which may or may not be

obvious reminders:

(1) The starting point: Make certain of where your

whole material comes from, that you can verify its

purity and cleanliness and that you know how it was

dried; don't " assume " anything;

(2) If drying yourself, clean first, then air dry in

a dark cool environment with a well-filtered and

circulating air flow - and do so immediately.

(3) Make sure the material is totally completely

utterly dry before grinding, and grind cool and clean.

(4) If appropriate, load into capsules immediately.

If not, make packets of ground material using wax

paper from a natural foods store (do not tape -- fold

and wrap sufficiently to hold).

(5) Immediately store small batches of

capsules/packets in modest-size containers, preferably

blue glass ones, or glass canning jars w/ lids. Place

these in cool, dark cabinet/chest/shelving -- where

you only open and close the door to get out the

medicinals. Stable temperature and low light are

important. I prefer to put small batches of glass

containers in thick brown paper bags with handles from

the grocery store. All the information -- re prep

dates, i.d. of material, amounts, etc. - can be

written on the bag; the bags provide a light/humidity

barrier; and it's easy to lift and move batches

around quickly.

(6) If you need it, the refrigerator is better than

the freezer in creating a stabilizing storage

environment. As long as your material is packaged and

then sealed in glass jars (this is why canning jars

are good), it will remain in a temperature and light

controlled environment. However, you still need to

package the jars so that they'll be uncontaminated by

other food stuffs and molds.

(7) This entire process provides a nice opportunity

for a ritual of infusing the material and the storage

area with healing energy, as suits your personal

practices, and you will feel this effect returned to

you whenever you go there to " gather " an herbal

product.

 

I like to think of the herbal material storage place

as a nursery for your baby medicinals -- where these

living forms are kept swaddled, in health and harmony,

till they go off on their own to be healers.

Taking short-cuts, hoping for the best, and not paying

attention have just about the same results that they

do with human kids . . .. sometimes they turn out just

fine -- and sometimes they don't.

 

 

 

 

 

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I am wandering if people have experience using Mucuna Pruriens? What have you

found, and what have you used it for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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mike Bowser

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Monday, August 06, 2007 12:34 PM

RE: TCM and Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia

 

 

 

Gary,

 

Depending upon your patient and your ability, do you feel confident in taking

his

case? If not, then refer. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

: conanjb:

Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:48:33 +0000TCM and Chronic Lymphocytic

Leukemia

 

Hi,I have a patient that was recently diagnosed with CLL (Chronic Lymphocytic

Leukemia). He is asymptomatic and his oncologist said of all the types of cancer

to get this is the one. The oncologist doesn't feel this will impact his life.My

patient wants to know what can be done as a preventative measure, with herbs,

for this conditions. This is my 1st cancer patient.Thanks,Gary

 

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Hi Alon and all Herbal friends out there,

 

I have used Mucuna Pruriens which I had ordered from Dr Gary Sun from an

Ayurvedic Medicine web site.

 

I used the powder for two of my Parkinson patients.

 

They combined it with another powder of Ashgawanda and Guduchi (50%each to

100% of Mucuna)

 

The combination seemed to change their neurological condition (rigidity and

tremors) in a promising way.

 

There were problems with the approach because the powder was tough to take

and did not sit well in the digestive system. And some times the " off-time "

afterward was difficult. " like dropping off a cliff " .

 

We experimented with ratios and times to take it. We interrupted our

experimentations because

 

 

 

I then came across

 

Dr John Grinstein of www.br13.com <http://www.br13.com/> - we found that

his product had a more powerful effect and according to him results in

neurogenesis

 

Which eventually would lead to not needing any more medication all together

because the body would re learn to produce Dopamine.

 

He estimates the treatment would take a few years to eventually not even

needing to replace Cinemet with his organic extract anymore.

 

 

 

His claim is that he has discovered substances in organically grown heirloom

vegetables that have this ability.

 

There are some charitable organizations that support his research. Two

patients also had tremendous success with liver cancer and glia-blastomas.

Dr. Grinstein's GC100

 

extract seemed to have a concrete effect on both these patients - my liver

cancer patient had a reduction in " spots " on the liver from 3 to 1. and the

size of the last one went from 2.7cm to 1.7cm..

 

All research papers and many articles are available for your viewing.

 

 

 

I look forward to your feed back and comments

 

All the best

 

Verena

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of Alon Marcus

Monday, August 06, 2007 4:24 PM

 

Re: Re: Mucuna

 

 

 

I am wandering if people have experience using Mucuna Pruriens? What have

you found, and what have you used it for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks

 

Verena Smith <verena wrote:

Hi Alon and all Herbal friends out there,

 

I have used Mucuna Pruriens which I had ordered from Dr Gary Sun from an

Ayurvedic Medicine web site.

 

I used the powder for two of my Parkinson patients.

 

They combined it with another powder of Ashgawanda and Guduchi (50%each to

100% of Mucuna)

 

The combination seemed to change their neurological condition (rigidity and

tremors) in a promising way.

 

There were problems with the approach because the powder was tough to take

and did not sit well in the digestive system. And some times the " off-time "

afterward was difficult. " like dropping off a cliff " .

 

We experimented with ratios and times to take it. We interrupted our

experimentations because

 

I then came across

 

Dr John Grinstein of www.br13.com <http://www.br13.com/> - we found that

his product had a more powerful effect and according to him results in

neurogenesis

 

Which eventually would lead to not needing any more medication all together

because the body would re learn to produce Dopamine.

 

He estimates the treatment would take a few years to eventually not even

needing to replace Cinemet with his organic extract anymore.

 

His claim is that he has discovered substances in organically grown heirloom

vegetables that have this ability.

 

There are some charitable organizations that support his research. Two

patients also had tremendous success with liver cancer and glia-blastomas.

Dr. Grinstein's GC100

 

extract seemed to have a concrete effect on both these patients - my liver

cancer patient had a reduction in " spots " on the liver from 3 to 1. and the

size of the last one went from 2.7cm to 1.7cm..

 

All research papers and many articles are available for your viewing.

 

I look forward to your feed back and comments

 

All the best

 

Verena

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Alon Marcus

Monday, August 06, 2007 4:24 PM

 

Re: Re: Mucuna

 

I am wandering if people have experience using Mucuna Pruriens? What have

you found, and what have you used it for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Do you know what treatment they do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Verena Smith

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:16 PM

RE: Re: Mucuna

 

 

Hi Alon and all Herbal friends out there,

 

I have used Mucuna Pruriens which I had ordered from Dr Gary Sun from an

Ayurvedic Medicine web site.

 

I used the powder for two of my Parkinson patients.

 

They combined it with another powder of Ashgawanda and Guduchi (50%each to

100% of Mucuna)

 

The combination seemed to change their neurological condition (rigidity and

tremors) in a promising way.

 

There were problems with the approach because the powder was tough to take

and did not sit well in the digestive system. And some times the " off-time "

afterward was difficult. " like dropping off a cliff " .

 

We experimented with ratios and times to take it. We interrupted our

experimentations because

 

I then came across

 

Dr John Grinstein of www.br13.com <http://www.br13.com/> - we found that

his product had a more powerful effect and according to him results in

neurogenesis

 

Which eventually would lead to not needing any more medication all together

because the body would re learn to produce Dopamine.

 

He estimates the treatment would take a few years to eventually not even

needing to replace Cinemet with his organic extract anymore.

 

His claim is that he has discovered substances in organically grown heirloom

vegetables that have this ability.

 

There are some charitable organizations that support his research. Two

patients also had tremendous success with liver cancer and glia-blastomas.

Dr. Grinstein's GC100

 

extract seemed to have a concrete effect on both these patients - my liver

cancer patient had a reduction in " spots " on the liver from 3 to 1. and the

size of the last one went from 2.7cm to 1.7cm..

 

All research papers and many articles are available for your viewing.

 

I look forward to your feed back and comments

 

All the best

 

Verena

 

_____

 

On Behalf Of Alon Marcus

Monday, August 06, 2007 4:24 PM

Re: Re: Mucuna

 

I am wandering if people have experience using Mucuna Pruriens? What have

you found, and what have you used it for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Chinese Medicine , " Alon Marcus "

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Its more an ayurvedic herb than a tcm herb, Its good for nervous

system disorders, as a sex tonic for men, Parkinson's. It is toxic at

high doses. In tcm terms I would call it a very neutral kidney yang

tonic that extinguishes wind. A good formula with mucuna is energy

tonic from tibetanherbs.com(its a traditinal Tibetan formula). I have

a very high quality extract for sale is you want some...

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