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Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife.co.uk/

 

that it is more effective than acupuncture

for pain relief.

 

Kind regards,

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

Editor

Times

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Hi Attilio,

Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at length

and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was invented my

an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over there use it

with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own).

It looks a bit like a TDP lamp but send a light cold air, which apparently

changes the concentration of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how that

then treats so many different diseases

I have asked them to send me more information about the scientific side of

it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy that came to

demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t able to give

me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought it might work

like when you use different material of needles and thus changes the

direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it just sits at

about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that works out,

for so many conditions.

Let me know if you get more information or if it makes any sense to you.

 

May

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto wrote:

 

>

>

>

>

> Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife.co.uk/

>

> that it is more effective than acupuncture

> for pain relief.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Attilio D'Alberto

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

> BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

> Editor

> Times

> +44 (0) 1189 612512

> enquiries

> <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

> <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

> <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia>

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

>

>

>

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WATCH OUT FOR !!!!!!!!!

There are so many forms of ads which are so deceiving. Let them do

the work and we wait for more info to come.

There were so may dishonest claims, such as Alovera, Queen Bee for

so may illnesses ( cancers, high blood pressure, hepatitis ,

arthritis, cholesterol ... ) , Noni , garlic, onion , pineapple ...

and there will be more coming. As a professional , I think we should

stay away from them as MDs, and watch them do the tricks ??? We are

not criticizing any forms of medicine, but observing.

I think our best bet is to converge our wisdom into western medicine

to form " ACU-WEST " from Western diagnosis and producing TCM view and

treatment plan. We may have better chance to help our patients.

 

THIS IS JUST AN OPINION.

I heard of ionization treatments by ionizing the air-room years ago.

It died out a long time ago. Now , there is another new form , from

acupuncture. I hope it works, but I doubt it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , May

Lucken-Ardjomande <maylucken wrote:

>

> Hi Attilio,

> Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

> claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at

length

> and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

> patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was

invented my

> an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over

there use it

> with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own).

> It looks a bit like a TDP lamp but send a light cold air, which

apparently

> changes the concentration of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how

that

> then treats so many different diseases

> I have asked them to send me more information about the scientific

side of

> it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy that came to

> demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t able

to give

> me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought it

might work

> like when you use different material of needles and thus changes the

> direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it just

sits at

> about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that

works out,

> for so many conditions.

> Let me know if you get more information or if it makes any sense to you.

>

> May

>

>

On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife.co.uk/

> >

> > that it is more effective than

acupuncture

> > for pain relief.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Attilio D'Alberto

> > Doctor of (Beijing, China)

> > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

> > Editor

> > Times

> > +44 (0) 1189 612512

> > enquiries

> > <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>

> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia>

> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

> >

> >

> >

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Hi May, but what happened at your session? If it is really that great one

treatment should show effect.

Hugo

 

 

May Lucken-Ardjomande <maylucken

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, 2 August, 2007 4:56:47 PM

Re: Iolife

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Attilio,

 

Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

 

claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at length

 

and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

 

patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was invented my

 

an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over there use it

 

with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own).

 

It looks a bit like a TDP lamp but send a light cold air, which apparently

 

changes the concentration of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how that

 

then treats so many different diseases

 

I have asked them to send me more information about the scientific side of

 

it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy that came to

 

demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t able to give

 

me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought it might work

 

like when you use different material of needles and thus changes the

 

direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it just sits at

 

about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that works out,

 

for so many conditions.

 

Let me know if you get more information or if it makes any sense to you.

 

 

 

May

 

 

 

On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife. co.uk/

 

>

 

> that it is more effective than acupuncture

 

> for pain relief.

 

>

 

> Kind regards,

 

>

 

> Attilio D'Alberto

 

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

 

> BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

 

> Editor

 

> Times

 

> +44 (0) 1189 612512

 

> enquiries@chineseme dicinetimes. com

 

> <enquiries% 40chinesemedicin etimes.com>

 

> <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/> www.chinesemedicine times.com

 

> <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/forum/ index.php>

 

> www.chinesemedicine times.com/ forum/index. php

 

> <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/wiki/ CMTpedia>

 

> www.chinesemedicine times.com/ wiki/CMTpedia

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Hi May,

 

Thanks for the info.

 

It sounds interesting, but I don't like their style of advertising. Stating

that it's more effective than acupuncture at relieving pain without any

proof is unethical.

 

Kind regards,

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

Editor

Times

+44 (0) 1189 612512

enquiries

www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of May

Lucken-Ardjomande

03 August 2007 00:57

Chinese Medicine

Re: Iolife

 

 

Hi Attilio,

Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at length

and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was invented my

an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over there use it

with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own). It looks a bit like a TDP

lamp but send a light cold air, which apparently changes the concentration

of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how that then treats so many

different diseases I have asked them to send me more information about the

scientific side of it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy

that came to demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t

able to give me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought

it might work like when you use different material of needles and thus

changes the direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it

just sits at about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that

works out, for so many conditions. Let me know if you get more information

or if it makes any sense to you.

 

May

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto wrote:

 

>

>

>

>

> Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife.co.uk/

>

> that it is more effective than

> acupuncture for pain relief.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Attilio D'Alberto

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

> BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

> Editor

> Times

> +44 (0) 1189 612512

> enquiries

> <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

> <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

> <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia>

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

>

>

>

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Hi,

 

It¹s definitely not more effective than acupuncture. There is not really any

diagnostic procedure and from what I see it¹s only kind of ¨personal life

stories¨, nothing else.

I have asked for more information but it¹s been at least a month now and i

have seen nothing yet.

 

May

 

 

On 3/8/07 07:45, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto wrote:

 

>

>

>

>

> Hi May,

>

> Thanks for the info.

>

> It sounds interesting, but I don't like their style of advertising. Stating

> that it's more effective than acupuncture at relieving pain without any

> proof is unethical.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Attilio D'Alberto

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

> BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

> Editor

> Times

> +44 (0) 1189 612512

> enquiries

> <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

>

>

> Chinese Medicine

> <Chinese Medicine%40>

> [Chinese Medicine

> <Chinese Medicine%40> ] On Behalf Of May

> Lucken-Ardjomande

> 03 August 2007 00:57

> Chinese Medicine

> <Chinese Medicine%40>

> Re: Iolife

>

> Hi Attilio,

> Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

> claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at length

> and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

> patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was invented my

> an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over there use it

> with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own). It looks a bit like a TDP

> lamp but send a light cold air, which apparently changes the concentration

> of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how that then treats so many

> different diseases I have asked them to send me more information about the

> scientific side of it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy

> that came to demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t

> able to give me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought

> it might work like when you use different material of needles and thus

> changes the direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it

> just sits at about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that

> works out, for so many conditions. Let me know if you get more information

> or if it makes any sense to you.

>

> May

>

> On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto

> <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > wrote:

>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife.co.uk/

>> >

>> > that it is more effective than

>> > acupuncture for pain relief.

>> >

>> > Kind regards,

>> >

>> > Attilio D'Alberto

>> > Doctor of (Beijing, China)

>> > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

>> > Editor

>> > Times

>> > +44 (0) 1189 612512

>> > enquiries

>> <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

>> > <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

>> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>

>> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

>> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia>

>> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Yes you are right.

My patient has motor neuron disease and it is progressing quickly. I provide

relief for muscle pain, tremors and spasm and ease her hand movements but it

is still progressing fast. She nearly can¹t speak now and has just had a

feeding tube inserted in her stomach.

I understand her panic and the need for her family to try everything.

That¹s how I came across this machine. And for them I wanted to look more

into it and understand why it is supposed to work. But they haven¹t provided

me with any precise information.

Apparently the are getting accredited by BUPA (high standard private

insurance in the UK). But that could be an add too.

 

May

 

 

 

On 3/8/07 02:33, " dr_namnguyen58 " <dr_namnguyen58 wrote:

 

>

>

>

>

>

> WATCH OUT FOR !!!!!!!!!

> There are so many forms of ads which are so deceiving. Let them do

> the work and we wait for more info to come.

> There were so may dishonest claims, such as Alovera, Queen Bee for

> so may illnesses ( cancers, high blood pressure, hepatitis ,

> arthritis, cholesterol ... ) , Noni , garlic, onion , pineapple ...

> and there will be more coming. As a professional , I think we should

> stay away from them as MDs, and watch them do the tricks ??? We are

> not criticizing any forms of medicine, but observing.

> I think our best bet is to converge our wisdom into western medicine

> to form " ACU-WEST " from Western diagnosis and producing TCM view and

> treatment plan. We may have better chance to help our patients.

>

> THIS IS JUST AN OPINION.

> I heard of ionization treatments by ionizing the air-room years ago.

> It died out a long time ago. Now , there is another new form , from

> acupuncture. I hope it works, but I doubt it.

>

> Chinese Medicine

> <Chinese Medicine%40> , May

> Lucken-Ardjomande <maylucken wrote:

>> >

>> > Hi Attilio,

>> > Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

>> > claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at

> length

>> > and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

>> > patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was

> invented my

>> > an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over

> there use it

>> > with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own).

>> > It looks a bit like a TDP lamp but send a light cold air, which

> apparently

>> > changes the concentration of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how

> that

>> > then treats so many different diseases

>> > I have asked them to send me more information about the scientific

> side of

>> > it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy that came to

>> > demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t able

> to give

>> > me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought it

> might work

>> > like when you use different material of needles and thus changes the

>> > direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it just

> sits at

>> > about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that

> works out,

>> > for so many conditions.

>> > Let me know if you get more information or if it makes any sense to you.

>> >

>> > May

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto wrote:

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife.co.uk/

>>> > >

>>> > > that it is more effective than

> acupuncture

>>> > > for pain relief.

>>> > >

>>> > > Kind regards,

>>> > >

>>> > > Attilio D'Alberto

>>> > > Doctor of (Beijing, China)

>>> > > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

>>> > > Editor

>>> > > Times

>>> > > +44 (0) 1189 612512

>>> > > enquiries

>>> > > <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com>

>>> > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>>> > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>

>>> > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php

>>> > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia>

>>> > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

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Hi,

 

I didn¹t feel or see any difference, while I was doing the acupuncture.

My patient didn¹t feel anything during the treatment, other than the normal

acupuncture ¨feeling¨. She said that she thought she got a slightly stronger

effect than with acupuncture alone, on the strength of her hands afterwards.

But she wasn¹t completely sure. And this could be the ¨hope for something to

work¨.

I spoke at length with the guy from the motor neuron society to understand

how he used it. Also I wanted to understand how in terms of chinese medicine

the patterns he was presenting changed. I am going to meet up with him in

the next month and I will let you know what I find out.

 

There is no protocol or diagnostic method that changes the way you use the

machine.

 

On their web site at www.iolife.co.uk they have a section explaining how the

machine works, and also how it compares to acupuncture.

 

I don¹t think this section explains anything correctly but have a look if

you have time.

 

May

 

 

 

On 3/8/07 03:31, " Hugo Ramiro " <subincor wrote:

 

>

>

>

>

> Hi May, but what happened at your session? If it is really that great one

> treatment should show effect.

> Hugo

>

>

> May Lucken-Ardjomande <maylucken

> <maylucken%40qi-clinic.com> >

> Chinese Medicine

> <Chinese Medicine%40>

> Thursday, 2 August, 2007 4:56:47 PM

> Re: Iolife

>

> Hi Attilio,

>

> Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

>

> claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at length

>

> and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

>

> patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was invented my

>

> an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over there use it

>

> with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own).

>

> It looks a bit like a TDP lamp but send a light cold air, which apparently

>

> changes the concentration of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how that

>

> then treats so many different diseases

>

> I have asked them to send me more information about the scientific side of

>

> it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy that came to

>

> demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t able to give

>

> me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought it might work

>

> like when you use different material of needles and thus changes the

>

> direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it just sits at

>

> about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that works out,

>

> for so many conditions.

>

> Let me know if you get more information or if it makes any sense to you.

>

> May

>

> On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto@ .co. uk> wrote:

>

>> >

>

>> >

>

>> >

>

>> >

>

>> > Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife. co.uk/

>

>> >

>

>> > that it is more effective than acupuncture

>

>> > for pain relief.

>

>> >

>

>> > Kind regards,

>

>> >

>

>> > Attilio D'Alberto

>

>> > Doctor of (Beijing, China)

>

>> > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

>

>> > Editor

>

>> > Times

>

>> > +44 (0) 1189 612512

>

>> > enquiries@chineseme dicinetimes. com

>

>> > <enquiries% 40chinesemedicin etimes.com>

>

>> > <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/> www.chinesemedicine times.com

>

>> > <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/forum/ index.php>

>

>> > www.chinesemedicine times.com/ forum/index. php

>

>> > <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/wiki/ CMTpedia>

>

>> > www.chinesemedicine times.com/ wiki/CMTpedia

>

>> >

>

>> >

>

>> >

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Hi May, I appreciate the details. Sounds like another potentially useful

technology trying to get its head above the water by promoting itself as a

panacea.

Hugo

 

 

May Lucken-Ardjomande <maylucken

Chinese Medicine

Friday, 3 August, 2007 3:17:13 AM

Re: Iolife

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

I didn¹t feel or see any difference, while I was doing the acupuncture.

 

My patient didn¹t feel anything during the treatment, other than the normal

 

acupuncture ¨feeling¨. She said that she thought she got a slightly stronger

 

effect than with acupuncture alone, on the strength of her hands afterwards.

 

But she wasn¹t completely sure. And this could be the ¨hope for something to

 

work¨.

 

I spoke at length with the guy from the motor neuron society to understand

 

how he used it. Also I wanted to understand how in terms of chinese medicine

 

the patterns he was presenting changed. I am going to meet up with him in

 

the next month and I will let you know what I find out.

 

 

 

There is no protocol or diagnostic method that changes the way you use the

 

machine.

 

 

 

On their web site at www.iolife.co. uk they have a section explaining how the

 

machine works, and also how it compares to acupuncture.

 

 

 

I don¹t think this section explains anything correctly but have a look if

 

you have time.

 

 

 

May

 

 

 

On 3/8/07 03:31, " Hugo Ramiro " <subincor > wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi May, but what happened at your session? If it is really that great one

 

> treatment should show effect.

 

> Hugo

 

>

 

>

 

> May Lucken-Ardjomande <maylucken@qi- clinic.com

 

> <maylucken% 40qi-clinic. com> >

 

>

 

> <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com>

 

> Thursday, 2 August, 2007 4:56:47 PM

 

> Re: Iolife

 

>

 

> Hi Attilio,

 

>

 

> Yes. It is used by a guy within the motor neuron society in the UK who

 

>

 

> claims he has been having amazing results with it. I spoke to him at length

 

>

 

> and after this, I got the company to come down so I could try it with a

 

>

 

> patient of mine who has motor neuron disease. (It apparently was invented my

 

>

 

> an acupuncturist in Denmark and a number of acupuncturist over there use it

 

>

 

> with acupuncture, but it mainly used on it¹s own).

 

>

 

> It looks a bit like a TDP lamp but send a light cold air, which apparently

 

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> changes the concentration of ions in the air. I don¹t understand how that

 

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> then treats so many different diseases

 

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> I have asked them to send me more information about the scientific side of

 

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> it but I've still haven¹t received anything. (The guy that came to

 

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> demonstrate it to me, was more a rep than anything and wasn¹t able to give

 

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> me precise details except than case stories.) I first thought it might work

 

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> like when you use different material of needles and thus changes the

 

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> direction of the flow of electrons for pain or burns. But it just sits at

 

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> about 20cm from the body and I don¹t really understand how that works out,

 

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> for so many conditions.

 

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> Let me know if you get more information or if it makes any sense to you.

 

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> May

 

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> On 2/8/07 19:54, " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

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>> > Has anyone heard of iolife? See http://www.iolife. co.uk/

 

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>> > that it is more effective than acupuncture

 

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>> > for pain relief.

 

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>> > Kind regards,

 

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>> > Attilio D'Alberto

 

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>> > Doctor of (Beijing, China)

 

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>> > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC

 

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>> > Editor

 

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>> > Times

 

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>> > enquiries@chineseme dicinetimes. com

 

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>> > <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/> www.chinesemedicine times.com

 

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>> > <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/forum/ index.php>

 

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>> > www.chinesemedicine times.com/ forum/index. php

 

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>> > <http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/wiki/ CMTpedia>

 

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