Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Dear friends, I have a step-father who is now 89 years old. He used to have a severe dizziness spell, for a long time, 2 years, which incapacitated him. He fell several times and been hospitalized so often. Basically, he lies on sofa these days. When he wanted to get up, he must need a walker, and it took him a few minutes to hold his breath and be in balance. Doctors and specialists ( cardiologist, neurologist, optometrist, pneumologist, geriatrist, oncologist, audiologist, physical therapist ... ) have treated him and ran so many tests, but nothing found. They proclaimed of an old age, he must live with it. I suggested him to see an acupuncturist in the same hospital " Kaiser Permanente " , but he ignored my advice. I must take care of him, drove him to see his doctors about 2 -3 times a week, sometimes 4 -5 times, and occasionally ended up in a hospital for a few weeks. This is too much of my time for baby sitting him. One day I asked if I could take his pulses and gave him some herbs. Pale tongue, wet " slippery " , forceful slippery pulses... luster skin, his spirit in the eye seemed to be exhausted , voice became weak. This case I had presented earlier. I gave him a Jin Gui Shen Qi Wan , 20 pills each times, 3 times a day , and assured that he would be better in a week, However, he needs some other herbs to get rid of his illness. At first, he did not take any at all. He was in doubt about Oriental Medicine. My mom must force him to take those pills. After he took only 5 pills a day, he complained nothing had changed and gave me a dirty look. I was so disappointed and said " If you do not take these pills, I can not help you much. I can not use my times only to take care of you and take you to your doctors 3-5 times a week , who find nothing wrong with you. " Now I am offering these to you and you should help me to take care of yourself. " He finally took 20 pills a day, which was still not making me happy, but I could not press him too far. My mom had not believed in Acupuncture and herb either, but sometimes she encouraged me with pseudo-enthusiasm. Exactly one week later, he could walk and did something on his own and occasionally driving. Three months later " 2 months + 3 weeks to be exact " , which is from today, he has developed edema, dizziness, vertigo, blurry vision... NOTICE, he stopped taking Jin Gui Shen Qi after one bottle, 200 pills in one week. I told him this is caused by Beta blocker, Calcium blocker or any other hypertension pills. He should see his own doctor and asked for stopping. A few days later, his edema subsided, but not completely. MY QUESTION IS : I do not think I can convince him to take some more of these pills, and beside, I do not think my mom wants me too. There are sometimes if you are lucky, the patient gets better and you get no credit. But if you make a mistake ,in this case, it could be a serious problem!!!!!!!!! Should I offer any advice ? Or should I treat him ???????????????? Does this happen to one of us, or just of my feeling. A BELL'S PALSY case : I did not reply to, but I had one interesting case. A patient walked-in with twisted mouth , eye and blinking, saliva dripping into my office for a headache. I asked, " Are you aware that you hava a Bell's Palsy ? " No, I only have headache. Oh, come and look into this mirror. Open your mouth and say ah ah ah , close your eye. Then she acknowleged she had it. It was an early attack of Windstroke , virus , maybe?? Floating, rapid forceful pulses, pale tongue. Headache and shoulder pain. Rx : I scrapped her back with mentol cream " Tiger Palm " . When she turned back up, I asked for mouth open, eye close, and moving the jaw. Everything was straight up, instantly. No needle, no herbs was d....................... But another BELL'S PALSY case was different : This illness was 2 years old. Thready deep pulse, twisted tongue , no headache , just sleep disturbed. I gave treatments " the 1st -20% better, 2nd another 20% improvement " , the results were instant, but it took too much time, 30 - 40 minutes each time. After that I could only straightened up up to 70 -80% and I quit, after about 20 treatments. I said that was enough, I could not do any better. See somebody else. If one of us had better sucess, please share to one another. BY THE WAY, I treated a paralyzed dog " hemiplegia " from a stroke, a VET proclaimed. After a few treatments, the dog was normal. This was a lucky shot. My boss, Medical doctor, was amazed of this. This was his dog, he asked me if I could treat it. Good luck everybody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Thanks Peter. --- Pete Theisen <petetheisen wrote: > On Friday 06 July 2007 20:47, dr_namnguyen58 wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a step-father who is now 89 years old. > <snip> > > but he ignored my advice. I must take care of him, > drove > > him to see his doctors about 2 -3 times a week, > sometimes 4 -5 times, > > and occasionally ended up in a hospital for a few > weeks. This is too > > much of my time for baby sitting him. > > Hi Dr. Nguyen! > > He is your stepfather, he is your family. You do the > best you can under the > circumstances and don't worry if it takes your time > or if he ignores you. > > He will die some day and then something else will > take too much of your time. > There will never be a time when something is not > taking too much of your > time. I know that this will happen, it happens to > everyone when our parents > die. > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > ______________________________\ ____ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I gotta say, treating family who have blocks against our help is a real uphill battle. My sister is only studying to be a nurse and gets more respect than I do, except for the occasional, " wow, that one treatment you gave me did help. tee hee hee " You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. If your parents won't accept your help, and you've shown them all the data that could help convince them, and they still reject your help, just realize that you have done your best and say a prayer that he comes around before it's too late, or that he goes in peace. Though you may feel personally rejected, becuase it's family you're dealing with, know that it is universal and they are simply living behind a veil. I know it's hard. I so want to help some members of my family but get turned down all the time. I've stopped offering. I figure they will come around or not, and either way I will go about my journey of this medicine and strive to learn all I can to help as many people as will come through the door. blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Relatives, close friends are always harder to treat. We often don't get any credit and if anything goes wrong we may get more blame. Wether it has something to do with what we did or not. How often have we dealt with a headache to hear as an answer " must be the aspirin " ? The tricky question is: how much is the time issue with your stepfather the real issue? As opposed to being recognised by your family, what you do being taken seriously? Artemis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 On Friday 06 July 2007 20:47, dr_namnguyen58 wrote: > Dear friends, > I have a step-father who is now 89 years old. <snip> > but he ignored my advice. I must take care of him, drove > him to see his doctors about 2 -3 times a week, sometimes 4 -5 times, > and occasionally ended up in a hospital for a few weeks. This is too > much of my time for baby sitting him. Hi Dr. Nguyen! He is your stepfather, he is your family. You do the best you can under the circumstances and don't worry if it takes your time or if he ignores you. He will die some day and then something else will take too much of your time. There will never be a time when something is not taking too much of your time. I know that this will happen, it happens to everyone when our parents die. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 There is a mantra for us to use when dealing with the health of parents, in-laws and other relatives. Now repeat as many times as needed, “There is nothing I can do about it. Many older family members do not understand what we do or choose to see us as doctors or as someone who can help them. My mother complains to me about her health issues which she won’t let me help her with and I just sigh and tell her I’ll just go heal strangers. It’s sad really. It seems to be an issue we all have to deal with. The saddest example is my mother in law who has Parkinson’s. I begged her to see me for years. She finally got so bad she was wheelchair bound. She then decided to see me. (Two months before I moved from the area.) I got her out of the wheelchair and out of pain. She claimed she was far too busy to see me more than once a week, so she only got so far with treatment. She was doing so much better even with much less treatment than recommended. (Of course herbs were out of the question). After I moved two hours away, she would drive up for treatment, but the ride was so hard on her that it undid everything. She won’t see any local Acupuncturists even though I have had several call her. She is now failing miserably and can not speak and will not get treated. She is taking many pills that are supposed to be helping her, but they make her very dopey. You know, there is nothing I can do about it! _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Artemis Papert Friday, July 06, 2007 11:10 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Are we seeing the same problem ? Relatives, close friends are always harder to treat. We often don't get any credit and if anything goes wrong we may get more blame. Wether it has something to do with what we did or not. How often have we dealt with a headache to hear as an answer " must be the aspirin " ? The tricky question is: how much is the time issue with your stepfather the real issue? As opposed to being recognised by your family, what you do being taken seriously? Artemis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Acudoc, THanks for your input ! I thought I am the only one who is on the boat about this feeling, but there maybe some others. Again, I greatly appreciate Pete Theisen for encouraging me and waking me up. I should put aside my ego and offer all the care I can give. Up until now, I had never asked my family members nor relatives to come to see me or give me a chance to treat them, especially this case. I only referred to others. The only cases I treat them if they find no other's help or they really ask me earnestly. Usually, if the treatments would not bring the result instantly, I stopped the treatments unless they are insisting for further treatments. To my surprise, I asked my step father if I could take his pulses and give him treatments, He happily allowed me too. However, this time seems to be a critical condition with edema, dizziness, weakness, low tone, blurry vision. ______________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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