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Dear friends,

I have a step-father who is now 89 years old. He used to have a severe

dizziness spell, for a long time, 2 years, which incapacitated him.

He fell several times and been hospitalized so often. Basically, he

lies on sofa these days. When he wanted to get up, he must need a

walker, and it took him a few minutes to hold his breath and be in

balance. Doctors and specialists ( cardiologist, neurologist,

optometrist, pneumologist, geriatrist, oncologist, audiologist,

physical therapist ... ) have treated him and ran so many tests, but

nothing found. They proclaimed of an old age, he must live with it.

I suggested him to see an acupuncturist in the same hospital " Kaiser

Permanente " , but he ignored my advice. I must take care of him, drove

him to see his doctors about 2 -3 times a week, sometimes 4 -5 times,

and occasionally ended up in a hospital for a few weeks. This is too

much of my time for baby sitting him.

One day I asked if I could take his pulses and gave him some herbs.

Pale tongue, wet " slippery " , forceful slippery pulses... luster

skin, his spirit in the eye seemed to be exhausted , voice became

weak. This case I had presented earlier.

I gave him a Jin Gui Shen Qi Wan , 20 pills each times, 3 times a day

, and assured that he would be better in a week, However, he needs

some other herbs to get rid of his illness. At first, he did not take

any at all. He was in doubt about Oriental Medicine. My mom must force

him to take those pills. After he took only 5 pills a day, he

complained nothing had changed and gave me a dirty look. I was so

disappointed and said " If you do not take these pills, I can not help

you much. I can not use my times only to take care of you and take

you to your doctors 3-5 times a week , who find nothing wrong with

you. " Now I am offering these to you and you should help me to take

care of yourself. "

He finally took 20 pills a day, which was still not making me happy,

but I could not press him too far. My mom had not believed in

Acupuncture and herb either, but sometimes she encouraged me with

pseudo-enthusiasm. Exactly one week later, he could walk and did

something on his own and occasionally driving. Three months later " 2

months + 3 weeks to be exact " , which is from today, he has developed

edema, dizziness, vertigo, blurry vision... NOTICE, he stopped taking

Jin Gui Shen Qi after one bottle, 200 pills in one week.

I told him this is caused by Beta blocker, Calcium blocker or any

other hypertension pills. He should see his own doctor and asked for

stopping. A few days later, his edema subsided, but not completely.

 

MY QUESTION IS : I do not think I can convince him to take some more

of these pills, and beside, I do not think my mom wants me too.

There are sometimes if you are lucky, the patient gets better and you

get no credit. But if you make a mistake ,in this case, it could be a

serious problem!!!!!!!!! Should I offer any advice ? Or should I

treat him ???????????????? Does this happen to one of us, or just of

my feeling.

 

A BELL'S PALSY case : I did not reply to, but I had one interesting case.

A patient walked-in with twisted mouth , eye and blinking, saliva

dripping into my office for a headache.

I asked, " Are you aware that you hava a Bell's Palsy ? "

No, I only have headache. Oh, come and look into this mirror. Open

your mouth and say ah ah ah , close your eye. Then she acknowleged she

had it.

It was an early attack of Windstroke , virus , maybe?? Floating, rapid

forceful pulses, pale tongue. Headache and shoulder pain.

Rx : I scrapped her back with mentol cream " Tiger Palm " . When she

turned back up, I asked for mouth open, eye close, and moving the jaw.

Everything was straight up, instantly. No needle, no herbs was

d.......................

 

But another BELL'S PALSY case was different : This illness was 2 years

old.

Thready deep pulse, twisted tongue , no headache , just sleep disturbed.

I gave treatments " the 1st -20% better, 2nd another 20% improvement "

, the results were instant, but it took too much time, 30 - 40 minutes

each time. After that I could only straightened up up to 70 -80% and I

quit, after about 20 treatments. I said that was enough, I could not

do any better. See somebody else.

If one of us had better sucess, please share to one another.

 

BY THE WAY, I treated a paralyzed dog " hemiplegia " from a stroke, a

VET proclaimed. After a few treatments, the dog was normal. This was a

lucky shot. My boss, Medical doctor, was amazed of this. This was his

dog, he asked me if I could treat it.

 

Good luck everybody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks Peter.

 

 

 

--- Pete Theisen <petetheisen wrote:

 

> On Friday 06 July 2007 20:47, dr_namnguyen58 wrote:

> > Dear friends,

> > I have a step-father who is now 89 years old.

> <snip>

> > but he ignored my advice. I must take care of him,

> drove

> > him to see his doctors about 2 -3 times a week,

> sometimes 4 -5 times,

> > and occasionally ended up in a hospital for a few

> weeks. This is too

> > much of my time for baby sitting him.

>

> Hi Dr. Nguyen!

>

> He is your stepfather, he is your family. You do the

> best you can under the

> circumstances and don't worry if it takes your time

> or if he ignores you.

>

> He will die some day and then something else will

> take too much of your time.

> There will never be a time when something is not

> taking too much of your

> time. I know that this will happen, it happens to

> everyone when our parents

> die.

> --

> Regards,

>

> Pete

> http://www.pete-theisen.com/

>

 

 

 

 

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I gotta say, treating family who have blocks against our help is a

real uphill battle. My sister is only studying to be a nurse and gets

more respect than I do, except for the occasional, " wow, that one

treatment you gave me did help. tee hee hee " You can lead a horse to

water but you can't make him drink. If your parents won't accept your

help, and you've shown them all the data that could help convince

them, and they still reject your help, just realize that you have done

your best and say a prayer that he comes around before it's too late,

or that he goes in peace. Though you may feel personally rejected,

becuase it's family you're dealing with, know that it is universal and

they are simply living behind a veil. I know it's hard. I so want to

help some members of my family but get turned down all the time. I've

stopped offering. I figure they will come around or not, and either

way I will go about my journey of this medicine and strive to learn

all I can to help as many people as will come through the door.

blessings

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Relatives, close friends are always harder to treat.

We often don't get any credit and if anything goes wrong we may get more blame.

Wether it has something to do with what we did or not.

How often have we dealt with a headache to hear as an answer " must be the

aspirin " ?

 

The tricky question is: how much is the time issue with your stepfather the real

issue? As opposed to being recognised by your family, what you do being taken

seriously?

 

Artemis

 

 

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On Friday 06 July 2007 20:47, dr_namnguyen58 wrote:

> Dear friends,

> I have a step-father who is now 89 years old.

<snip>

> but he ignored my advice. I must take care of him, drove

> him to see his doctors about 2 -3 times a week, sometimes 4 -5 times,

> and occasionally ended up in a hospital for a few weeks. This is too

> much of my time for baby sitting him.

 

Hi Dr. Nguyen!

 

He is your stepfather, he is your family. You do the best you can under the

circumstances and don't worry if it takes your time or if he ignores you.

 

He will die some day and then something else will take too much of your time.

There will never be a time when something is not taking too much of your

time. I know that this will happen, it happens to everyone when our parents

die.

--

Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

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There is a mantra for us to use when dealing with the health of parents,

in-laws and other relatives. Now repeat as many times as needed, “There is

nothing I can do about it.

 

 

 

Many older family members do not understand what we do or choose to see us

as doctors or as someone who can help them. My mother complains to me about

her health issues which she won’t let me help her with and I just sigh and

tell her I’ll just go heal strangers. It’s sad really. It seems to be an

issue we all have to deal with.

 

 

 

The saddest example is my mother in law who has Parkinson’s. I begged her to

see me for years. She finally got so bad she was wheelchair bound. She then

decided to see me. (Two months before I moved from the area.) I got her out

of the wheelchair and out of pain. She claimed she was far too busy to see

me more than once a week, so she only got so far with treatment. She was

doing so much better even with much less treatment than recommended. (Of

course herbs were out of the question).

 

 

 

After I moved two hours away, she would drive up for treatment, but the ride

was so hard on her that it undid everything. She won’t see any local

Acupuncturists even though I have had several call her. She is now failing

miserably and can not speak and will not get treated. She is taking many

pills that are supposed to be helping her, but they make her very dopey. You

know, there is nothing I can do about it!

 

 

 

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Friday, July 06, 2007 11:10 PM

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Re: Are we seeing the same problem ?

 

 

 

Relatives, close friends are always harder to treat.

We often don't get any credit and if anything goes wrong we may get more

blame. Wether it has something to do with what we did or not.

How often have we dealt with a headache to hear as an answer " must be the

aspirin " ?

 

The tricky question is: how much is the time issue with your stepfather the

real issue? As opposed to being recognised by your family, what you do being

taken seriously?

 

Artemis

 

 

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Acudoc,

THanks for your input ! I thought I am the only one

who is on the boat about this feeling, but there maybe

some others.

Again, I greatly appreciate Pete Theisen for

encouraging me and waking me up. I should put aside my

ego and offer all the care I can give.

Up until now, I had never asked my family members nor

relatives to come to see me or give me a chance to

treat them, especially this case. I only referred to

others. The only cases I treat them if they find no

other's help or they really ask me earnestly. Usually,

if the treatments would not bring the result

instantly, I stopped the treatments unless they are

insisting for further treatments.

To my surprise, I asked my step father if I could take

his pulses and give him treatments, He happily allowed

me too. However, this time seems to be a critical

condition with edema, dizziness, weakness, low tone,

blurry vision.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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