seizures and parkinsonism: an update on my wife-Mercury?

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12 years

ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable composites. The

removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's electric

charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and vitamin C. They

were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even so, a DMPS

challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her urine were

still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB! Using natural

chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about a year later, 1997,

they were negligable.

 

Respectfully,

 

Yehuda

 

stephenmacallan wrote:

A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done with

TCM and

continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? - there is a

link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to fill a

bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

 

all the best

 

Stephen

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Yehuda,

ok, good... you did all the dental stuff correctly. I am not

convinced that DMPS, EDTA or DMSA get heavy metals out of the brain and neither

do some of the natural chelators, especially given that she`s a poor detoxer

(from the history). I still think she might have a toxic burden. What about

Root-canals? Cavitations?. Forgive me if I`m being too pushy, Guess I empathise

(tho divorced and single now, so no parallel) and would like to help.

 

best regards

 

Stephen

 

 

> Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12

> years ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable composites.

> The removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's

> electric charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and vitamin

> C. They were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even so,

> a DMPS challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her

> urine were still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB!

> Using natural chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about a

> year later, 1997, they were negligable.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Yehuda

>

> stephenmacallan wrote:

> A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done

> with TCM and

> continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? - there

> is a

> link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to

> fill a

> bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

>

> all the best

>

> Stephen

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[Guest guest]

Hello Yehuda

I also agree with Stephen, poor detoxer and definitely dysbiosis problem. Have

a open minded look at Andy Culters Heavy Metal Protocol and Testing with

Metametrix Clinical Lab: Organic urine test (small intestine test for

organisms), Gastrointestinal functional profile test (Large Intestine testing

organisms using DNA analysis), Porhyrins(urine test, environmental toxins) and

IGG food panel, Hair analysis using Doctor`s Data or Great Plains lab and have

a look at some of the chat groups like MB12,Vatrex and frequent dose chelation,

.

Best regards

Ross

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stephenmacallan

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:31 PM

Re: seizures and parkinsonism: an update on my wife-Mercury?

 

 

Hello Yehuda,

ok, good... you did all the dental stuff correctly. I am not

convinced that DMPS, EDTA or DMSA get heavy metals out of the brain and

neither

do some of the natural chelators, especially given that she`s a poor detoxer

(from the history). I still think she might have a toxic burden. What about

Root-canals? Cavitations?. Forgive me if I`m being too pushy, Guess I

empathise

(tho divorced and single now, so no parallel) and would like to help.

 

best regards

 

Stephen

 

> Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12

> years ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable composites.

> The removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's

> electric charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and vitamin

> C. They were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even so,

> a DMPS challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her

> urine were still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB!

> Using natural chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about a

> year later, 1997, they were negligable.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Yehuda

>

> stephenmacallan wrote:

> A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done

> with TCM and

> continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? - there

> is a

> link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to

> fill a

> bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

>

> all the best

>

> Stephen

>

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> This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Stephen,

 

Actually, she detoxes quite well, and is in remarkably good health, with the

exception of her completely exhuasted nervous system. Her skin is soft, her

eyes are clear, and her hair is thick and healthy. At the time we replaced her

amalgams we also explored the issue of root canals and cavitations. The two

root canals that she had were filled with MTA, a biocompatable material that

fills in all the canals, preventing any microscopic infection from entering.

Read about it here:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=115724\

91 & dopt=Citation

 

Truly, the areas you are addressing I dealt with ten years ago, and though I

appreciate your concern, don't feel that it is necessary to revisit.

 

Yehuda

 

stephenmacallan wrote:

Hello Yehuda,

ok, good... you did all the dental stuff correctly. I am not

convinced that DMPS, EDTA or DMSA get heavy metals out of the brain and neither

do some of the natural chelators, especially given that she`s a poor detoxer

(from the history). I still think she might have a toxic burden. What about

Root-canals? Cavitations?. Forgive me if I`m being too pushy, Guess I empathise

(tho divorced and single now, so no parallel) and would like to help.

 

best regards

 

Stephen

 

> Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12

> years ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable composites.

> The removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's

> electric charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and vitamin

> C. They were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even so,

> a DMPS challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her

> urine were still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB!

> Using natural chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about a

> year later, 1997, they were negligable.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Yehuda

>

> stephenmacallan wrote:

> A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done

> with TCM and

> continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? - there

> is a

> link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to

> fill a

> bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

>

> all the best

>

> Stephen

>

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> This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

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>

>

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Ok, yehuda,

sorry. I know bout MTA. Good luck

 

Stephen

 

 

 

> Hi Stephen,

>

> Actually, she detoxes quite well, and is in remarkably good health, with

> the exception of her completely exhuasted nervous system. Her skin is soft,

> her eyes are clear, and her hair is thick and healthy. At the time we

> replaced her amalgams we also explored the issue of root canals and

> cavitations. The two root canals that she had were filled with MTA, a

> biocompatable material that fills in all the canals, preventing any

> microscopic infection from entering. Read about it here:

>

>

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=115724\

91 & dopt=Citation

>

> Truly, the areas you are addressing I dealt with ten years ago, and though

> I appreciate your concern, don't feel that it is necessary to revisit.

>

> Yehuda

>

> stephenmacallan wrote:

> Hello Yehuda,

> ok, good... you did all the dental stuff correctly. I am not

> convinced that DMPS, EDTA or DMSA get heavy metals out of the brain and

> neither

> do some of the natural chelators, especially given that she`s a poor detoxer

> (from the history). I still think she might have a toxic burden. What about

> Root-canals? Cavitations?. Forgive me if I`m being too pushy, Guess I

> empathise

> (tho divorced and single now, so no parallel) and would like to help.

>

> best regards

>

> Stephen

>

> > Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12

> > years ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable

> composites.

> > The removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's

> > electric charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and

> vitamin

> > C. They were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even

> so,

> > a DMPS challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her

> > urine were still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB!

> > Using natural chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about

> a

> > year later, 1997, they were negligable.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Yehuda

> >

> > stephenmacallan wrote:

> > A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done

> > with TCM and

> > continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? -

> there

> > is a

> > link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to

> > fill a

> > bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

> >

> > all the best

> >

> > Stephen

> >

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> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ross and Stephen,

 

Please, first, Stephen, forgive me if my response was insulting, it wasn't

meant as such. Rather, for the past17 years that Chana has been sick, I have

made it my passion to educate myself on the pathogenesis of her illness,

pathways of toxification and therapeutic alternatives. Before I began Chinese

medical school in 2000, we say (without exaggeration) over 200 practitioners,

Western, Eastern, conventional and alternative. We traveled around the US, to

Europe and Israel, and though I learned much in the process, I was also

incredibly disappointed by and large, by the mediocrity and egos I came across,

particularly among the " experts " . One of my stops was with a remarkable

psychiatrist, Melvin Werbach, MD who really made an impression when he said that

we should stop looking for a magic bullet. Rather, more often than not, illness

is an accummulated load, and our job is to uncover on stone at a time, to see if

it is a provocateur, and slowly, as we lift off one at

a time, eventually, the patient will be able to again recover-- that perhaps

the " event " which appeared to precipitate the illness was just the straw that

broke the camel's back.

 

So, with that introduction, may I ask what information I told you that gave

you the indication that she is a poor detoxer with a dysbiosis problem? BTW,

around 6 months ago, I suspected that she might have a problem with parasites,

and ran the state of the art stool analysis from Great Smokies lab, also testing

for absorption. It came back negative.

 

Please educate me if I haven't been there, but again, if I have, understand

why I choose to take other directions, knowing that though I am open, I have

made my choices based upon experience and education.

 

Sincerely,

 

Yehuda

Ross Ralph <courtenayhealing wrote:

Hello Yehuda

I also agree with Stephen, poor detoxer and definitely dysbiosis problem. Have a

open minded look at Andy Culters Heavy Metal Protocol and Testing with

Metametrix Clinical Lab: Organic urine test (small intestine test for

organisms), Gastrointestinal functional profile test (Large Intestine testing

organisms using DNA analysis), Porhyrins(urine test, environmental toxins) and

IGG food panel, Hair analysis using Doctor`s Data or Great Plains lab and have a

look at some of the chat groups like MB12,Vatrex and frequent dose chelation,

.

Best regards

Ross

-

stephenmacallan

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:31 PM

Re: seizures and parkinsonism: an update on my wife-Mercury?

 

Hello Yehuda,

ok, good... you did all the dental stuff correctly. I am not

convinced that DMPS, EDTA or DMSA get heavy metals out of the brain and neither

do some of the natural chelators, especially given that she`s a poor detoxer

(from the history). I still think she might have a toxic burden. What about

Root-canals? Cavitations?. Forgive me if I`m being too pushy, Guess I empathise

(tho divorced and single now, so no parallel) and would like to help.

 

best regards

 

Stephen

 

> Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12

> years ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable composites.

> The removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's

> electric charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and vitamin

> C. They were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even so,

> a DMPS challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her

> urine were still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB!

> Using natural chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about a

> year later, 1997, they were negligable.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Yehuda

>

> stephenmacallan wrote:

> A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done

> with TCM and

> continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? - there

> is a

> link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to

> fill a

> bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

>

> all the best

>

> Stephen

>

> -------------

> This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Yehuda,

I made no comment on dysbiosis (but it is an inevitable consequence of

heavy metal poisoning) but i did comment `the poor detoxer bit`. that was

because 1 year after amalgams were out she still had a high mercury burden. I

work a lot with the mercury issue and I reckon that average detox time is 6 to 9

months. If I got a mercury reading after 1 year of detoxing I would assume

either a very poor detoxer or a problem with the dentistry and some amlagam was

still in situ. I was going to bow out of this because it is clear to me that you

have explored that avenue very thorough. Anyway i answered your question.

 

I wish you and yours well.

 

Stephen

 

PS I didnt feel insulted

 

 

> Dear Ross and Stephen,

>

> Please, first, Stephen, forgive me if my response was insulting, it wasn't

> meant as such. Rather, for the past17 years that Chana has been sick, I have

> made it my passion to educate myself on the pathogenesis of her illness,

> pathways of toxification and therapeutic alternatives. Before I began

> Chinese medical school in 2000, we say (without exaggeration) over 200

> practitioners, Western, Eastern, conventional and alternative. We traveled

> around the US, to Europe and Israel, and though I learned much in the

> process, I was also incredibly disappointed by and large, by the mediocrity

> and egos I came across, particularly among the " experts " . One of my stops

> was with a remarkable psychiatrist, Melvin Werbach, MD who really made an

> impression when he said that we should stop looking for a magic bullet.

> Rather, more often than not, illness is an accummulated load, and our job is

> to uncover on stone at a time, to see if it is a provocateur, and slowly, as

> we lift off one at

> a time, eventually, the patient will be able to again recover-- that perhaps

> the " event " which appeared to precipitate the illness was just the straw that

> broke the camel's back.

>

> So, with that introduction, may I ask what information I told you that gave

> you the indication that she is a poor detoxer with a dysbiosis problem? BTW,

> around 6 months ago, I suspected that she might have a problem with

> parasites, and ran the state of the art stool analysis from Great Smokies

> lab, also testing for absorption. It came back negative.

>

> Please educate me if I haven't been there, but again, if I have, understand

> why I choose to take other directions, knowing that though I am open, I have

> made my choices based upon experience and education.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Yehuda

> Ross Ralph <courtenayhealing wrote:

> Hello Yehuda

> I also agree with Stephen, poor detoxer and definitely dysbiosis problem.

> Have a open minded look at Andy Culters Heavy Metal Protocol and Testing with

> Metametrix Clinical Lab: Organic urine test (small intestine test for

> organisms), Gastrointestinal functional profile test (Large Intestine testing

> organisms using DNA analysis), Porhyrins(urine test, environmental toxins)

> and IGG food panel, Hair analysis using Doctor`s Data or Great Plains lab and

> have a look at some of the chat groups like MB12,Vatrex and frequent dose

> chelation, .

> Best regards

> Ross

> -

> stephenmacallan

> Chinese Medicine

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:31 PM

> Re: seizures and parkinsonism: an update on my wife-Mercury?

>

> Hello Yehuda,

> ok, good... you did all the dental stuff correctly. I am not

> convinced that DMPS, EDTA or DMSA get heavy metals out of the brain and

> neither

> do some of the natural chelators, especially given that she`s a poor detoxer

> (from the history). I still think she might have a toxic burden. What about

> Root-canals? Cavitations?. Forgive me if I`m being too pushy, Guess I

> empathise

> (tho divorced and single now, so no parallel) and would like to help.

>

> best regards

>

> Stephen

>

> > Thank you for the intelligent thought, Stephen. Been there, done that, 12

> > years ago. Her amalgam fillings were replaced with biocompatable

> composites.

> > The removal procedure was done sequentially, based upon each filling's

> > electric charge. Removal was done with a rubber dam, suction, IV and

> vitamin

> > C. They were removed in multiple appointments, to lessen the load. Even

> so,

> > a DMPS challenge revealed a year later, that her levels of mercury in her

> > urine were still consistant with industrial exposure to mercury, 22 PPB!

> > Using natural chelators and DMPS, her levels gradually lowered until about

> a

> > year later, 1997, they were negligable.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Yehuda

> >

> > stephenmacallan wrote:

> > A complete sidestep and i am not discounting what you have done

> > with TCM and

> > continue to do, but does she have a mouth full of amalgam fillings? -

> there

> > is a

> > link with mercury and seizures and all the good TCM work may be trying to

> > fill a

> > bucket that has holes in it. just a thought.

> >

> > all the best

> >

> > Stephen

> >

> > -------------

> > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web

> links.

> >

> >

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