OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your future is at stake, call your reps!!

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media

assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being

taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that

disaster is about to strike.

The events of the past week are no exception.

The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress' throat is

not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a

mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother

pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a

never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to

shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China!

" This is welfare for the rich, " he said. " This is

socialism for the rich. It's bailing out the financiers, the banks, the

Wall Streeters. "

That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we're being told

it's unavoidable.

The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that

only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has

become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those

responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences -

predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics -

are being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually

positioning itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this

mess!

• The Treasury Secretary is authorized to purchase up to $700 billion in

mortgage-related assets at any one time. That means $700 billion is only

the very beginning of what will hit us.

• Financial institutions are " designated as financial agents of the

Government. " This is the New Deal to end all New Deals.

• Then there's this: " Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the

authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency

discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any

administrative agency. " Translation: the Secretary can buy up

whatever junk debt he wants to, burden the American people with it, and

be subject to no one in the process.

There goes your country.

Even some so-called free-market economists are calling all this

" sadly necessary. " Sad, yes. Necessary? Don't make me

laugh.

Our one-party system is complicit in yet another crime against the

American people. The two major party candidates for president themselves

initially indicated their strong support for bailouts of this kind -

another example of the big choice we're supposedly presented with this

November: yes or yes. Now, with a backlash brewing, they're not quite

sure what their views are. A sad display, really.

Although the present bailout package is almost certainly not the end of

the political atrocities we'll witness in connection with the crisis,

time is short. Congress may vote as soon as tomorrow. With a Rasmussen

poll finding support for the bailout at an anemic seven percent, some

members of Congress are afraid to vote for it.

Call them! Let them hear

from you! Tell them you will never vote for anyone who supports

this atrocity.

The issue boils down to this: do we care about freedom? Do we care about

responsibility and accountability? Do we care that our government and

media have been bought and paid for? Do we care that average Americans

are about to be looted in order to subsidize the fattest of cats on Wall

Street and in government? Do we care?

When the chips are down, will we stand up and fight, even if it means

standing up against every stripe of fashionable opinion in politics and

the media?

Times like these have a way of telling us what kind of a people we are,

and what kind of country we shall be.

In liberty,

 

 

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This was in my email...

 

I’m against the $85,000,000,000..00 bailout of AIG.Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America ina We Deserve It Dividend.To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000bona fide U.S. Citizens 18+.Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, womanand child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as aWe Deserve It Dividend.Of course, it would NOT be tax free.So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.A husband and wife has

$595,000.00.What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.Repay college loans – what a great boost to new gradsPut away money for college – it'll be thereSave in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.Buy a new car – create jobsInvest in the market – capital drives growthPay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improvesEnable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or elseRemember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folkswho lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other companythat is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.If we're going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do

it...instead oftrickling outa puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed byone of our candidates for President..If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U SCitizen 18+!As for AIG – liquidate it.Sell off its parts.Let American General go back to being American General.Sell off the real estate.=0 ALet the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!How do you spell Economic Boom?I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 BillionWe Deserve It Dividend more than I do the

geniuses at AIG or in WashingtonDC.And remember, The Buddy plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5Billion is returnedinstantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.Ah...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Hanneke <blosshan wrote:

Hanneke <blosshan OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your future is at stake, call your reps!! Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:44 PM

 

 

Dear Friends,Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is about to strike.The events of the past week are no exception.The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress' throat is not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China! "This is welfare for the rich," he said. "This is socialism for the rich. It's bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall

Streeters."That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we're being told it's unavoidable.The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences - predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics - are being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually positioning itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this mess!• The Treasury Secretary is authorized to purchase up to $700 billion in mortgage-related assets at any one time. That means $700 billion is only the very beginning of what will hit us.• Financial institutions are "designated as financial agents of the Government." This is the New Deal to end all New Deals.• Then there's

this: "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency." Translation: the Secretary can buy up whatever junk debt he wants to, burden the American people with it, and be subject to no one in the process.There goes your country.Even some so-called free-market economists are calling all this "sadly necessary." Sad, yes. Necessary? Don't make me laugh.Our one-party system is complicit in yet another crime against the American people. The two major party candidates for president themselves initially indicated their strong support for bailouts of this kind - another example of the big choice we're supposedly presented with this November: yes or yes. Now, with a backlash brewing, they're not quite sure what their views are. A sad display, really.Although the present bailout

package is almost certainly not the end of the political atrocities we'll witness in connection with the crisis, time is short. Congress may vote as soon as tomorrow. With a Rasmussen poll finding support for the bailout at an anemic seven percent, some members of Congress are afraid to vote for it. Call them! Let them hear from you! Tell them you will never vote for anyone who supports this atrocity.The issue boils down to this: do we care about freedom? Do we care about responsibility and accountability? Do we care that our government and media have been bought and paid for? Do we care that average Americans are about to be looted in order to subsidize the fattest of cats on Wall Street and in government? Do we care?When the chips are down, will we stand up and fight, even if it means standing up against every stripe of fashionable opinion in politics

and the media?Times like these have a way of telling us what kind of a people we are, and what kind of country we shall be.In liberty,

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Move

to Alaska,

become a resident then collect the dividend we get each year. Perhaps this is a

take-off of what we already get here in Alaska??

Just an idea.

Peace,

Laura

 

 

" Life will

give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your

consciousness "

Eckhart Tolle; A

New Earth

www.myspace.com/starflower99654

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Traveler

Wednesday, September 24,

2008 5:29 PM

 

Re:

OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your future is at stake, call your reps!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This was in my email...

 

 

 

 

 

I’m against the $85,000,000,000..00 bailout of

AIG.

 

 

 

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in

 

a We Deserve It Dividend.

 

 

 

To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000

 

bona fide U.S.

Citizens 18+.

 

 

 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman

 

and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

 

 

 

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.

 

 

 

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a

 

We Deserve It Dividend.

 

 

 

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.

 

So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

 

 

 

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

 

That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

 

 

 

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

 

A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

 

 

 

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

 

Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis

solved.

 

Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads

 

Put away money for college – it'll be there

 

Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

 

Buy a new car – create jobs

 

Invest in the market – capital drives growth

 

Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves

 

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else

 

 

 

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks

 

who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and

every other company

 

that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

 

 

 

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it...instead of

trickling out

 

a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by

one of our candidates for President..

 

 

 

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S

Citizen 18+!

 

 

 

As for AIG – liquidate it.

 

Sell off its parts.

 

Let American General go back to being American General.

 

Sell off the real estate.

 

=0 ALet the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

 

 

 

Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

 

 

 

Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

 

 

 

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

 

 

 

How do you spell Economic Boom?

 

 

 

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion

 

We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington

DC.

 

 

 

And remember, The Buddy plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because

$25.5

Billion is returned

 

instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

 

 

 

Ah...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

 

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Hanneke <blosshan (AT) aapt (DOT) net.au>

wrote:

 

 

Hanneke

<blosshan (AT) aapt (DOT) net.au>

OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your

future is at stake, call your reps!!

 

Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:44 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media

assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being

taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is

about to strike.

 

The events of the past week are no exception.

 

The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress' throat is not

just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of

our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is

still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of

ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago,

financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

made America more

communist than China!

" This is welfare for the rich, " he said. " This is socialism

for the rich. It's bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall

Streeters. "

 

That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we're being told it's

unavoidable.

 

The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that

only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has

become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those

responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences -

predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics - are

being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually positioning

itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this mess!

 

• The Treasury Secretary is authorized to purchase up to $700 billion in

mortgage-related assets at any one time. That means $700 billion is only the

very beginning of what will hit us.

 

• Financial institutions are " designated as financial agents of the

Government. " This is the New Deal to end all New Deals.

 

• Then there's this: " Decisions by the

Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and

committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law

or any administrative agency. " Translation: the Secretary can

buy up whatever junk debt he wants to, burden the American people with it,

and be subject to no one in the process.

 

There goes your country.

 

Even some so-called free-market economists are calling all this " sadly

necessary. " Sad, yes. Necessary? Don't make me laugh.

 

Our one-party system is complicit in yet another crime against the American

people. The two major party candidates for president themselves initially

indicated their strong support for bailouts of this kind - another example of

the big choice we're supposedly presented with this November: yes or yes.

Now, with a backlash brewing, they're not quite sure what their views are. A

sad display, really.

 

Although the present bailout package is almost certainly not the end of the

political atrocities we'll witness in connection with the crisis, time is

short. Congress may vote as soon as tomorrow. With a Rasmussen poll finding

support for the bailout at an anemic seven percent, some members of Congress

are afraid to vote for it. Call them! Let them hear

from you! Tell them you will never vote for anyone who

supports this atrocity.

 

The issue boils down to this: do we care about freedom? Do we care about

responsibility and accountability? Do we care that our government and media

have been bought and paid for? Do we care that average Americans are about to

be looted in order to subsidize the fattest of cats on Wall Street and in

government? Do we care?

 

When the chips are down, will we stand up and fight, even if it means

standing up against every stripe of fashionable opinion in politics and the

media?

 

Times like these have a way of telling us what kind of a people we are, and

what kind of country we shall be.

 

In liberty,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Amen " Hanneke " . People, call your elected officials and tell them if

they vote for this, you will NOT vote for them!

[Guest guest]

I am a few days late with this (just now getting to a couple weeks of messages), but has anyone else actually done the math???

 

{So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.}

$85,000,000,000/$200,000,000=$425 NOT $425,000

....

Can't do much these days with $425!

 

Kenneth T

 

-

Traveler

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 21:29

Re: OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your future is at stake, call your reps!!

 

 

 

 

 

This was in my email...

I’m against the $85,000,000,000..00 bailout of AIG.Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America ina We Deserve It Dividend.

[Guest guest]

Yep we came to that conclusion too but the other SOUNDS so much better .................

 

Jane

 

-

Kenneth

Monday, September 29, 2008 6:32 AM

Re: OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your future is at stake, call your reps!!

 

I am a few days late with this (just now getting to a couple weeks of messages), but has anyone else actually done the math???

 

{So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.}

$85,000,000,000/$200,000,000=$425 NOT $425,000

....

Can't do much these days with $425!

 

Kenneth T

 

-

Traveler

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 21:29

Re: OFF TOPIC, but please read, and act, your future is at stake, call your reps!!

 

 

 

 

 

This was in my email...

I’m against the $85,000,000,000..00 bailout of AIG.Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America ina We Deserve It Dividend.

 

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