Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

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Oh, I already have!

 

, andrea brown

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> you should sign up, get whole sale prices and make a few bucks.plus

it's a great community of loving caring people.

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> mommy2threelilboys <mommyon731

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> Monday, September 15, 2008 11:14:10 PM

> Re: Young Living Antioxidant

Informative Tour

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> Thank you for this information Andrea. I LOVE Young Living oils and I

> LOVE Ningxia Red!!

>

> , andrea brown

> <mlsw532000@> wrote:

> >

> > I am a distributor for young living products and ,your information

> is incorrect. " natural " Sodium Benzoate is derived from cranberries,

> apples, plums, cloves and cinnamon. It is used to kill bacteria, yeast

> and fungi and to inhibit fermentation. " natural " Potassium Sorbate is

> the; Salt of Sorbic Acid, which is derived from the berries of the

> Mountain Ash. It is used to inhibit the growth of molds and yeasts.

> > The products you are referring to are ,the " rip off " chemical

> versions of these natural preservatives. I just went to a seminar

> where this topic was covered fully. I hope i have cleared up any

> confusion about the product Ningxia Red, or any other orgranic or

> natural product that have these ingredients listed. Keep in mind that

> a juice or product containing any of the plants that produce these

> natural preservatives must, by law ,list SB and PS . You can find this

> information easily enough on line. sincerely andrea

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > bluegreensolutions <bluegreensolutions@>

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> > Monday, September 15, 2008 10:17:13 PM

> > Re: Young Living Antioxidant

> Informative Tour

> >

> > I have some information for you too:

> >

> > Ningxia Red fruit juice mix has PRESERVATIVES in it!!! Potassium

> > sorbate and sodium benzoate. DO NOT give this drink to kids,

> > especially. Benzoates have been shown to contribute to ADHD.

> >

> > Plus - the berry itself is a wonderful WHOLE FOOD - eat it as a food,

> > don't drink the processed over-priced juice drink.

> >

> > Carol

> >

> > , " scarletpaolicchi "

> > <scarletsinger@> wrote:

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> > > I have some exciting information for you:

> > >

> > > NINGXIA RED is on TOUR

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Awesome!!!mommy2threelilboys <mommyon731 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:24:49 AM Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative TourOh, I already have! , andrea brown<mlsw532000 wrote:>> you should sign up, get whole sale prices and make a few bucks.plusit's a great community of loving caring

people.> > > > > mommy2threelilboys <mommyon731> > Monday, September 15, 2008 11:14:10 PM> Re: Young Living AntioxidantInformative Tour> > Thank you for this information Andrea. I LOVE Young Living oils and I> LOVE Ningxia Red!!> > , andrea brown> <mlsw532000@> wrote:> >> > I am a distributor for young living products and ,your information> is incorrect."natural" Sodium Benzoate is derived from cranberries,> apples, plums, cloves and

cinnamon. It is used to kill bacteria, yeast> and fungi and to inhibit fermentation. "natural" Potassium Sorbate is> the; Salt of Sorbic Acid, which is derived from the berries of the> Mountain Ash. It is used to inhibit the growth of molds and yeasts.> > The products you are referring to are ,the "rip off" chemical> versions of these natural preservatives. I just went to a seminar> where this topic was covered fully. I hope i have cleared up any> confusion about the product Ningxia Red, or any other orgranic or> natural product that have these ingredients listed. Keep in mind that> a juice or product containing any of the plants that produce these> natural preservatives must, by law ,list SB and PS . You can find this> information easily enough on line. sincerely andrea > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message

----> > bluegreensolutions <bluegreensolutions@>> > > > Monday, September 15, 2008 10:17:13 PM> > Re: Young Living Antioxidant> Informative Tour> > > > I have some information for you too:> > > > Ningxia Red fruit juice mix has PRESERVATIVES in it!!! Potassium> > sorbate and sodium benzoate. DO NOT give this drink to kids,> > especially. Benzoates have been shown to contribute to ADHD.> > > > Plus - the berry itself is a wonderful WHOLE FOOD - eat it as a food,> > don't drink the processed over-priced juice drink.> > > > Carol> > > > , "scarletpaolicchi"> > <scarletsinger@> wrote:> > >> > > I have some exciting information for you:> > > > > > NINGXIA RED is on TOUR > > > > > > ---> > > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»> > > > § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §> > > > > > Subscribe:......... - > > > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»> > > > DISCLOSURE:> > > > Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be> news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult> with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of> treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.> > > > SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:> > > > By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its> members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any> liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.> > >

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Plants are chemicals. some are natural. if you don't want moldy, fungi, fermented juice . Making fresh at home doesn't require any preservation for shelf life. For example, if I grow some Basil and then add it to my tomato sauce it doesn't then become toxic. If i make maple syrup and add it to my winter squash it doesn't then become toxic. Derived from simply means ;come from, made from etc. hope this helps. Andrea"Hill8628" <Hill8628To:

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:05:38 AMRe: Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

I wondered about this myself as MSG is found naturally in foods but when we take it out of the foods and concentrate it and add it to other foods it becomes a problem for our body.

 

Jackie

 

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Clares Primus

Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:36 AM

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Dear Andrea

I am reading much - as I can lately about the differences in natural versus synthetic.... whole foods versus individual components etc and I found this phrase (derived from ) in your email puzzling...........

 

Surely if it is dervived from, then it is a component part of but NOT the whole thing?

 

I am not even trying to enter into a fight / argument / discussion about the particular products your are distributing...... I only drink whole fresh juice I have made myself, at home, with out bench top juicer...... no added ANYTHINGS or DERIVATIVES of anything either. It is the terminology I am questioning. Surely we do not need to add these derived chemicals to fresh wholesome foods? Like it or not they are chemicals we can do without?

 

Cheer's C in T

 

 

Sodium Benzoate is derived from cranberries, apples, plums, cloves and cinnamon. It is used to kill bacteria, yeast and fungi and to inhibit fermentation. "natural" Potassium Sorbate is the; Salt of Sorbic Acid, which is derived from the berries of the Mountain Ash. It is used to inhibit the growth of molds and yeasts.

 

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I also agree with Carol about the Sodium Benzoate, no matter where it

comes from. Plus when mixed with ascorbic acid it turns to benzene a

known carcinogen.

I also don't want to start a discussion about who's product is good,

better or best and why. I think as believers and supporters of

natural health care, we need to support one another. But my bigger

issue with this product is the founder of the company. Who going

back to the early 80's has repeatedly inflated and falsified his

education, credientals and experience.

He has been arrested and plead guilty in the past of practicing

medicine without a license. His Masters and PhD " degrees " are from a

well known diploma mill and not an accredited university. He is not

and never was licensed in Utah or any other state. He also claims to

have Turkish credentials and was invited to speak on behalf of the

United Nations which both are not true.

Not to mention numerous reports of people sending in blood to his

clinic for analysis and being told a variety of things that when the

same blood was sent to a medical patholigist, nothing could be

found. *My personal favorites were a woman being told SHE had

prostate cancer and a chicken, yes a chicken being told they were in

liver failure amongst other things. No one noticed the blood sample

was not human.

Even as recent at 2005 he was sued for throwing a woman into kidney

failure. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount of mone.

He, last I knew had fled or moved his clinic to Ecudor where he is

able practice without prejudice.

And this isn't Crazy Lori making this stuff up. There are over 50

newpaper, magazine articles, scientive journal articles, Court

documents and even Licensing agency documentation to back all this up.

 

 

Lori

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YLEO is famous for brainwashing people into believing what they want them to believe. So there is no point in trying to convince a YL dist. that just because Gary Young and his minions day it does not make it a fact.

A much more reliable honest and better price placr to awuire oils is

http://www.av-at.com/index.html

Lots of info about YL can be found here..

 

/join

 

And for those who know little to nothing about EO or AT but are easilyswayed by claims and promises made by a charismatic empty shirt. One cannot be a con artist if they are not a charismatic.

 

Kathy

 

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Lori

Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:54 PM

Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

 

 

I also agree with Carol about the Sodium Benzoate, no matter where it comes from. Plus when mixed with ascorbic acid it turns to benzene a known carcinogen. I also don't want to start a discussion about who's product is good, better or best and why. I think as believers and supporters of natural health care, we need to support one another. But my bigger issue with this product is the founder of the company. Who going back to the early 80's has repeatedly inflated and falsified his education, credientals and experience. He has been arrested and plead guilty in the past of practicing medicine without a license. His Masters and PhD "degrees" are from a well known diploma mill and not an accredited university. He is not and never was licensed in Utah or any other state. He also claims to have Turkish credentials and was invited to speak on behalf of the United Nations which both are not true. Not to mention numerous reports of people sending in blood to his clinic for analysis and being told a variety of things that when the same blood was sent to a medical patholigist, nothing could be found. *My personal favorites were a woman being told SHE had prostate cancer and a chicken, yes a chicken being told they were in liver failure amongst other things. No one noticed the blood sample was not human. Even as recent at 2005 he was sued for throwing a woman into kidney failure. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount of mone. He, last I knew had fled or moved his clinic to Ecudor where he is able practice without prejudice. And this isn't Crazy Lori making this stuff up. There are over 50 newpaper, magazine articles, scientive journal articles, Court documents and even Licensing agency documentation to back all this up.Lori

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Yeah, we'll such stupid minions we simply believe whatever we are told, like a freaky little cult. It can't possibly be that many of us are educated folk, practioners of some sort of alternative and conventional healthcare ( you know the kind who actual have degrees and certifications) and that we actually use the products with success and speak from our hearts & personal experience when recommending something. it also couldnt be thousands of years of research, documentation and historical record either. you will notice on the Young Living webiste there is no slander or defamation of our "competitors" YL members hardly rely on the opinion of simply one source or one man. we are kinda smart and, do loads of research on our own. I always assume a company that resorts to

bashing the competitor rather then, promoting their own products, must not have alot of faith in thier products. it reminds me of politicians. but then again i am brainwashed so why listen to me. I sure hope i dont get hit with a storm produced by a giant weather manipulating machine. ah well, good luck to you.Kathy <vanokat Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:58:02 PMRe: Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

YLEO is famous for brainwashing people into believing what they want them to believe. So there is no point in trying to convince a YL dist. that just because Gary Young and his minions day it does not make it a fact.

A much more reliable honest and better price placr to awuire oils is

http://www.av-at.com/index.html

Lots of info about YL can be found here..

 

/join

 

And for those who know little to nothing about EO or AT but are easilyswayed by claims and promises made by a charismatic empty shirt. One cannot be a con artist if they are not a charismatic.

 

Kathy

 

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Lori

Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:54 PM

Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

 

 

I also agree with Carol about the Sodium Benzoate, no matter where it comes from. Plus when mixed with ascorbic acid it turns to benzene a known carcinogen. I also don't want to start a discussion about who's product is good, better or best and why. I think as believers and supporters of natural health care, we need to support one another. But my bigger issue with this product is the founder of the company. Who going back to the early 80's has repeatedly inflated and falsified his education, credientals and experience. He has been arrested and plead guilty in the past of practicing medicine without a license. His Masters and PhD "degrees" are from a well known diploma mill and not an accredited university. He is not and never was licensed in Utah or any other state. He also claims to have Turkish credentials and was invited to speak on behalf of the United Nations which both are not true. Not to mention numerous reports of people sending in blood to his clinic for analysis and being told a variety of things that when the same blood was sent to a medical patholigist, nothing could be found. *My personal favorites were a woman being told SHE had prostate cancer and a chicken, yes a chicken being told they were in liver failure amongst other things. No one noticed the blood sample was not human. Even as recent at 2005 he was sued for throwing a woman into kidney failure. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount of mone. He, last I knew had fled or moved his clinic to Ecudor where he is able practice without prejudice. And this isn't Crazy Lori making this stuff up. There are over 50 newpaper, magazine articles, scientive journal articles, Court documents and even Licensing agency documentation to back all this up.Lori

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If you don't educate yourself, even a licensed doctor can kill you. geesh.Lori <lori Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:54:13 PM Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

I also agree with Carol about the Sodium Benzoate, no matter where it comes from. Plus when mixed with ascorbic acid it turns to benzene a known carcinogen. I also don't want to start a discussion about who's product is good, better or best and why. I think as believers and supporters of natural health care, we need to support one another. But my bigger issue with this product is the founder of the company. Who going back to the early 80's has repeatedly inflated and falsified his education, credientals and experience. He has been arrested and plead guilty in the past of practicing medicine without a license. His Masters and PhD "degrees" are from a well known diploma mill and not an accredited university. He is not and never was licensed in Utah or any other state. He also claims to have Turkish credentials and was invited to speak on behalf of the

United Nations which both are not true. Not to mention numerous reports of people sending in blood to his clinic for analysis and being told a variety of things that when the same blood was sent to a medical patholigist, nothing could be found. *My personal favorites were a woman being told SHE had prostate cancer and a chicken, yes a chicken being told they were in liver failure amongst other things. No one noticed the blood sample was not human. Even as recent at 2005 he was sued for throwing a woman into kidney failure. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount of mone. He, last I knew had fled or moved his clinic to Ecudor where he is able practice without prejudice. And this isn't Crazy Lori making this stuff up. There are over 50 newpaper, magazine articles, scientive journal articles, Court documents and even Licensing agency documentation to back all

this up.Lori ---«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always consult with a

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You are absolutely right. I've seen plenty of medical mishaps and

cover ups in my 25+ plus in health care, traditional and

natural/alternative.

When I started my conversation, I prefaced that we are all in this

together (promoting natural health care) and that MY issue was . . .

It is about educating yourself and making an INFORMED decision about

your healthcare. My research has lead me to believe that those

products and that company are not for me. While I completely support

your right and encourage you to educate others on your products, I

felt, due to the nature of Mr Young's history, that others be aware

of it too Then they too could make an informed and educated

decision.

And I'm not going to promote my preferred product of choice because I

see this as a form for health education and not one to sell

products. Again, just my opinion.

 

In good health,

 

Lori

 

 

 

, andrea brown

<mlsw532000 wrote:

>

> If you don't educate yourself, even a licensed doctor can kill you.

geesh.

>

>

>

>

> Lori <lori

>

> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:54:13 PM

> Re: Young Living Antioxidant

Informative Tour

>

> I also agree with Carol about the Sodium Benzoate, no matter where

it

> comes from. Plus when mixed with ascorbic acid it turns to benzene

a

> known carcinogen.

> I also don't want to start a discussion about who's product is

good,

> better or best and why. I think as believers and supporters of

> natural health care, we need to support one another. But my bigger

> issue with this product is the founder of the company. Who going

> back to the early 80's has repeatedly inflated and falsified his

> education, credientals and experience.

> He has been arrested and plead guilty in the past of practicing

> medicine without a license. His Masters and PhD " degrees " are from

a

> well known diploma mill and not an accredited university. He is

not

> and never was licensed in Utah or any other state. He also claims

to

> have Turkish credentials and was invited to speak on behalf of the

> United Nations which both are not true.

> Not to mention numerous reports of people sending in blood to his

> clinic for analysis and being told a variety of things that when

the

> same blood was sent to a medical patholigist, nothing could be

> found. *My personal favorites were a woman being told SHE had

> prostate cancer and a chicken, yes a chicken being told they were

in

> liver failure amongst other things. No one noticed the blood

sample

> was not human.

> Even as recent at 2005 he was sued for throwing a woman into kidney

> failure. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount of mone.

> He, last I knew had fled or moved his clinic to Ecudor where he is

> able practice without prejudice.

> And this isn't Crazy Lori making this stuff up. There are over 50

> newpaper, magazine articles, scientive journal articles, Court

> documents and even Licensing agency documentation to back all this

up.

>

>

> Lori

>

>

>

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>

> § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §

>

>

> Subscribe:......... -

>

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>

> DISCLOSURE:

>

> Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be

news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult

with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of

treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.

>

> SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:

>

> By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its

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liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.

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list.

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> name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on

record.

> You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions

> to the source of the material are made.

> Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material

that

> you think is worthy.

>

> YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own

actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on

any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening

illnesses.

>

> IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must :

>

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Andrea, do you know how silly this sounds? Your juice hasn't been

around for thousands of years, so how could they have researched it

for thousands of years? The research was done on the BERRY - not the

finished, processed, preserved fruit juice mix. It's the WHOLE BERRY

that has the high antioxidant value.

 

So as I said before, eat the berry, and don't give benzoates to kids!

 

Carol

 

, andrea brown

<mlsw532000 wrote:

it also couldnt be thousands of years of research, documentation and

historical record either.

[Guest guest]

Silly is not actually reading an entire message and the reply. I can see this is a campaign by obvious competitors. I am hardly taking it personally. Try to keep up. the original "nasty" message targeted the entire Young Living company , ALL of it's products,and it's distributors and customers. I have a great idea, if you don't like the company don't buy the products? I was referring to oils and herbs etc that have absolutely been used, studied and been successful for thousands of years. buy your oils where ever you want. i could really care less. It's the nastiness i can do without. But then again what do you expect from a brainwashed minion? bluegreensolutions <bluegreensolutions Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:22:37 PM Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

Andrea, do you know how silly this sounds? Your juice hasn't beenaround for thousands of years, so how could they have researched itfor thousands of years? The research was done on the BERRY - not thefinished, processed, preserved fruit juice mix. It's the WHOLE BERRYthat has the high antioxidant value.So as I said before, eat the berry, and don't give benzoates to kids!Carol , andrea brown<mlsw532000 wrote: it also couldnt be thousands of years of research, documentation andhistorical record either. ---«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st

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affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list.If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach yourname and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributionsto the source of the material are made.Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material thatyou think is worthy.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must :

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I am not a competitor. I do not sell any kind of fruit juice. I'm

just very concerned about the diets of our young people (and

everybody, for that matter).

 

Sodium Benzoate is Sodium Benzoate, no matter how you make it. And

what chemicals are used to isolate it from those fruits?

 

I can't stress enough - DON'T give benzoates to kids - ANY benzoates!

Research published in 2007 for the UK's Food Standards Agency

suggests that sodium benzoate is linked to hyperactive behavior and

decreased intelligence in children. According to the report,

consumption of sodium benzoate is associated with a reduction in IQ of

close to 5.5 points. On September 6, 2007, the British Food Standards

Agency issued revised advice on certain artificial food additives,

including sodium benzoate.

 

Professor Jim Stevenson from Southampton University, and author of the

report, said: " This has been a major study investigating an important

area of research. The results suggest that consumption of certain

mixtures of artificial food colors and sodium benzoate preservative

are associated with increases in hyperactive behavior in children.

 

Carol

 

, andrea brown

<mlsw532000 wrote:

>

> Hi all. Just wanted to announce the latest propaganda by our

competitors ( I assume) claiming Ningjxia Red has preservatives in it.

it does but, they are natural.

> Sodium Benzoate is derived from cranberries, apples, plums, cloves

and cinnamon. Potassium Sorbate is the salt of Sorbic Acid, derived

from Mountain Ash Berries.

> Both these natural preservatives are used to inhibit fermentation ,

kill bacteria and, molds. If you're customers get wind of this slander

, you can assure them the product is all natural and safe. Andrea

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I respect your opinion. I research the products I buy, not the salesman. If i want to buy a truck, i really don't care about the salesman's personal life struggles. I have no problem with a respectful rebuttal. I do however take issue when I or myself, are mistreated by nasty people who seem to take the liberty to be insulting and abusive. I agree completely that it seems to be acceptable in our society to take drugs that ,while under trials ,killed people or animals. or to try a therapy or drug simply because the Doctor Gods say it will work. No treatment is perfect or infallible and one must educate themselves and, it is always buyer beware. My original post was in response to, someones

request for people's personal experience with Fibromyalgia, i listed several products by various companies. I was not promoting any particular product , just sharing my journey. My family has used herbs and oils, and tonics, and "old wives tales" forever. I joined this company because it benefitted me and my particluar choice in health care. I didnt join to make a million dollars. When i do promote something it is because i know it works, based on persoanl experience , not to make a buck. I appreciate your respectful opinion and your concern for others. Lori <lori Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:05:14 PM Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative TourYou are absolutely right. I've seen plenty of medical mishaps and cover

ups in my 25+ plus in health care, traditional and natural/alternative. When I started my conversation, I prefaced that we are all in this together (promoting natural health care) and that MY issue was . . .It is about educating yourself and making an INFORMED decision about your healthcare. My research has lead me to believe that those products and that company are not for me. While I completely support your right and encourage you to educate others on your products, I felt, due to the nature of Mr Young's history, that others be aware of it too Then they too could make an informed and educated decision. And I'm not going to promote my preferred product of choice because I see this as a form for health education and not one to sell products. Again, just my opinion. In good health,Lori , andrea brown <mlsw532000 wrote:>> If you don't educate yourself, even a licensed doctor can kill you. geesh.> > > > > Lori <lori> > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:54:13 PM> Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour> > I also agree with Carol about the Sodium Benzoate, no matter where it > comes from. Plus when mixed with ascorbic acid it turns to benzene a > known carcinogen. > I also don't want to start a discussion about who's product is good,

> better or best and why. I think as believers and supporters of > natural health care, we need to support one another. But my bigger > issue with this product is the founder of the company. Who going > back to the early 80's has repeatedly inflated and falsified his > education, credientals and experience. > He has been arrested and plead guilty in the past of practicing > medicine without a license. His Masters and PhD "degrees" are from a > well known diploma mill and not an accredited university. He is not > and never was licensed in Utah or any other state. He also claims to > have Turkish credentials and was invited to speak on behalf of the > United Nations which both are not true. > Not to mention numerous reports of people sending in blood to his > clinic for analysis and being told a

variety of things that when the > same blood was sent to a medical patholigist, nothing could be > found. *My personal favorites were a woman being told SHE had > prostate cancer and a chicken, yes a chicken being told they were in > liver failure amongst other things. No one noticed the blood sample > was not human. > Even as recent at 2005 he was sued for throwing a woman into kidney > failure. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount of mone. > He, last I knew had fled or moved his clinic to Ecudor where he is > able practice without prejudice. > And this isn't Crazy Lori making this stuff up. There are over 50 > newpaper, magazine articles, scientive journal articles, Court > documents and even Licensing agency documentation to back all this up.> > > Lori > > > >

> > > > > > ---> > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»> > § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §> > > Subscribe:......... - > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»> > DISCLOSURE:> > Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely

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If you check my original post i wasn't recommending the juice to be given to kids. In my second post i merely pointed out where the substance comes from why it is in the juice and other products. However; ever since i shared" numerous" products, by various companies, i use to treat the symptoms of my Fibromyalgia I have been under attack. In original post i never mentioned i am a member of YL. I only made reference to it when giving the source and, reason for the substances in the juice. The literature distributed by YL clearly states "not recommended for children" I understand your concern, but sometimes people in this group become downright nasty, and judgemental when they disagree. If i am not interested in a particular posting i simply delete it. I dont feel the need to go

and on, for days and weeks, harping and trying to make my point. If i do respond i make sure I read the posts and replies in full before i reply and i never insult anyone . Everyone is entitlted to their opinions, beleifs, and preferences. I use the products i choose because i expereince results, not becaused i am silly, or a brainwashed minion. I used oils, herbs, foods, and juices prior to becoming a YL member. My family has always used them. This particular company merely offers me the quality and convenience i need. Another nasty responder gave a link to his products so consider the source. I have a past, i'm sure everyone in this room does. YL consitently cites their mission, purpose and makes no claims of miracle cures or million dollar incomes. I have found nothing but sincere , caring people in this community. I have never met Mr. Young however if he had a personal journey of his own it is no business of mine. It is pretty hard

to offer any support without promoting something. I mean really,I grow herbs, should I not promote echinacea?bluegreensolutions <bluegreensolutions Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:40:10 PM Re: Young Living Antioxidant Informative Tour

I am not a competitor. I do not sell any kind of fruit juice. I'mjust very concerned about the diets of our young people (andeverybody, for that matter).Sodium Benzoate is Sodium Benzoate, no matter how you make it. Andwhat chemicals are used to isolate it from those fruits?I can't stress enough - DON'T give benzoates to kids - ANY benzoates! Research published in 2007 for the UK's Food Standards Agencysuggests that sodium benzoate is linked to hyperactive behavior anddecreased intelligence in children. According to the report,consumption of sodium benzoate is associated with a reduction in IQ ofclose to 5.5 points. On September 6, 2007, the British Food StandardsAgency issued revised advice on certain artificial food additives,including sodium benzoate.Professor Jim Stevenson from Southampton University, and author of thereport, said: "This has been a major study

investigating an importantarea of research. The results suggest that consumption of certainmixtures of artificial food colors and sodium benzoate preservativeare associated with increases in hyperactive behavior in children.Carol , andrea brown<mlsw532000 wrote:>> Hi all. Just wanted to announce the latest propaganda by ourcompetitors ( I assume) claiming Ningjxia Red has preservatives in it.it does but, they are natural.> Sodium Benzoate is derived from cranberries, apples, plums, clovesand cinnamon. Potassium Sorbate is the salt of Sorbic Acid, derivedfrom Mountain Ash Berries.> Both these natural preservatives are used to inhibit fermentation ,kill bacteria and, molds. If you're customers get wind of this

slander, you can assure them the product is all natural and safe. Andrea---«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION.

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