Neuropathy/mag cal

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I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Neuropathy Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of

controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - @ .

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Sure - "Calcium's simultaneous use should be avoided to prevent any possible antagonism of the calcium channel blocking effect of Magnesium" Nutrition Care's practitioner product manual ................

 

"Magnesium appears to compete with calcium, blocking re-entry of calcium into smooth muscle cells. When extracellular magnesium levels are high, vascular smooth muscle reactivity, which is calcium dependent, is reduced. "

 

There is more - relating to pre-eclampsia, intractable ventricular arrhythmias etc.

 

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Bea Bernhausen

Sunday, August 10, 2008 5:07 PM

Re: Neuropathy/mag cal

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Neuropathy Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list.If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach yourname and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributionsto the source of the material are made.Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material thatyou think is worthy.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must :

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Do not take competing mineral supplements together; (EX cal and mag). Magnesium should be taken early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells (osteoblasts). Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone structure. This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds of clients that I have followed. PS: no drug has been invented that improves bone structure. Drug may improve dansity but they cause embrittlement and fracture of long bones. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausenRe: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathySaturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of

controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - @ .

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Then why on earth have we been told for so long that the two must be taken together? So many of the supplements are in cal mag ratios. I had always been given to understand that cal, mag, pot, and zinc complemented each other and should be taken together. Gues that's wrong?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuartRe: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do not take competing mineral supplements together; (EX cal and mag). Magnesium should be taken early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells (osteoblasts) . Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone structure. This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds of clients that I have followed. PS: no drug has been invented that improves bone structure. Drug may improve dansity but they cause embrittlement and fracture of long bones. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathySaturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of

controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - @ .

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It is incorrect as I already mentioned in my reply the one blocks the absorption by the other - some companies are too lazy to do their research plus a deeper understand evolves gradually about the reaction and interaction of the various minerals -

 

JAne

 

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Bea Bernhausen

Monday, August 11, 2008 1:09 AM

Re: Neuropathy/mag cal

 

 

 

 

Then why on earth have we been told for so long that the two must be taken together? So many of the supplements are in cal mag ratios. I had always been given to understand that cal, mag, pot, and zinc complemented each other and should be taken together. Gues that's wrong?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuartRe: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do not take competing mineral supplements together; (EX cal and mag). Magnesium should be taken early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells (osteoblasts) . Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone structure. This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds of clients that I have followed. PS: no drug has been invented that improves bone structure. Drug may improve dansity but they cause embrittlement and fracture of long bones. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathySaturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list.If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach yourname and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributionsto the source of the material are made.Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material thatyou think is worthy.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must :

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Nutrients in food are not always enough - I find the body does need more Magnesium than you might ever hope to get in foods - Potassium too - but you probably would get enough calcium in the diet

 

Jane

 

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Rebecca Price

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Monday, August 11, 2008 1:50 AM

RE: Neuropathy/mag cal

This has been the problem with isolated nutrients as long as I can remember. Playing master chemist using our body as a big old test tube just never seems to work. I'm guessing that's why getting the nutrients in natural foods is the wisest course.

 

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It is near impossible to get enough minerals in foods we can normally purchase. Organic foods may be better but even those are grown on demineralized soils. If a person has health issues keep in mind that you can not heal sick people with sick food - supplements are a modern necessity.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:05 PM

 

 

 

Nutrients in food are not always enough - I find the body does need more Magnesium than you might ever hope to get in foods - Potassium too - but you probably would get enough calcium in the diet

 

Jane

 

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Rebecca Price

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Monday, August 11, 2008 1:50 AM

RE: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag cal

This has been the problem with isolated nutrients as long as I can remember. Playing master chemist using our body as a big old test tube just never seems to work. I'm guessing that's why getting the nutrients in natural foods is the wisest course.

 

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Addition reactions to keep in mind are that calcium will displace zinc and magnesium will conserve potassium. Take zinc alone for best absorption. People have been taught to believe that cal - mag complement each other- and they do in foods: but must be taken separately as supplements for optimal absorption. Companies making supplements are in business to sell. In order for them to sell more, they are more successsful in selling to people's beliefs than they are in selling things that are good for them.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausenRe: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:09 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then why on earth have we been told for so long that the two must be taken together? So many of the supplements are in cal mag ratios.. I had always been given to understand that cal, mag, pot, and zinc complemented each other and should be taken together. Gues that's wrong?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart > wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuart >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do not take competing mineral supplements together; (EX cal and mag). Magnesium should be taken early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells (osteoblasts) . Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone structure. This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds of clients that I have followed. PS: no drug has been invented that improves bone structure. Drug may improve dansity but they cause embrittlement and fracture of long bones. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathySaturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of

controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - @ .

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Well thanks for this--good stuff to know----then potassium and magnesium are good together? Any other combinations or things to avoid together?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuartRe: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 9:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Addition reactions to keep in mind are that calcium will displace zinc and magnesium will conserve potassium. Take zinc alone for best absorption. People have been taught to believe that cal - mag complement each other- and they do in foods: but must be taken separately as supplements for optimal absorption. Companies making supplements are in business to sell. In order for them to sell more, they are more successsful in selling to people's beliefs than they are in selling things that are good for them.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 11:09 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then why on earth have we been told for so long that the two must be taken together? So many of the supplements are in cal mag ratios.. I had always been given to understand that cal, mag, pot, and zinc complemented each other and should be taken together. Gues that's wrong?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart > wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuart >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do not take competing mineral supplements together; (EX cal and mag). Magnesium should be taken early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells (osteoblasts) . Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone structure. This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds of clients that I have followed. PS: no drug has been invented that improves bone structure. Drug may improve dansity but they cause embrittlement and fracture of long bones. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathySaturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of

controlling Neuropathy pain and it'sprogression, short of Neurontin?The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't havefeelings.Thanks,Alphabet Woman------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe:.. ....... - @ .

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I agree.  And the formula that I get from my Health Food store is

supposed one of the purest forms.  Really is upsetting when there is so

much conflicting information being posted.

 

tannis zamora  TN

 

Bea Bernhausen wrote:

 

 

 

 

Then why on earth have we been told for so long that the

two must be taken together? So many of the supplements are in cal mag

ratios. I had always been given to understand that cal, mag, pot, and

zinc complemented each other and should be taken together. Gues that's

wrong?

 

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart

wrote:

 

Tony De Angelis <tntstuart

Re: Neuropathy/mag cal

 

Sunday, August 10, 2008, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do not take competing mineral

supplements together; (EX cal and mag).  Magnesium should be taken

early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells

(osteoblasts) .  Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at

night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone

structure.  This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds

of clients that I have followed.  PS: no drug has been invented that

improves bone structure.  Drug may improve dansity but they cause

embrittlement and fracture of long bones.

 

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@

> wrote:

Bea Bernhausen

<beabernhausen@ >

Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag cal

 

Sunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag

were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea

 

--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT)

net.au> wrote:

 

Jane MacRoss

<highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>

Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy

 

Saturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake,

take twice as much Mag as Calc - if

you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC

-

drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and

homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for

three

weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's

exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a

message

search on the list message page for these ......

 

Jane

 

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM

[Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy

 

Is there an alternative method of controlling Neuropathy pain and it's

progression, short of Neurontin?

The only time i really have pain, is after walking alot.

The big toe throbs, even though the outer calf to the toes don't have

feelings.

 

Thanks,

Alphabet Woman

 

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you Rebecca, about not taking isolated nutrients. Maybe

in certain cases someone would need a specific vitamin and/or mineral

to address a health problem. Generally, it is best to get nutrients

from foods. Food has all the components that a body needs - carbs,

protein, fatty acids, minerals, vitamins - they are all interdependent

on each other. If need be, you can add a whole food supplement to

fill in the gaps. But remember, there are a lot of companies out

there these days hawking " whole food " supplements, when in fact they

are still isolated substances FROM a whole food. A " real " whole food

supplement will be a one-word ingredient.

 

Carol

[Guest guest]

Yes, it's a 'sticky wicket'--our nutrient intake becomes skewed from eating foods modified by farming chemicals, then shipping and storage practices, finally processing and packaging, so that by the time it gets to our mouths, it bears little relationship to what it was when it started out. We start trying to 'fix' the problems by isolating the missing ingredients and restoring them....and often end up creating a bigger mess. The problem appears systemic.Two times in my life I let modern living completely decimate my health. The first time, the medical fix was to do daily expensive shots and avoid a long list of "don't's eats" (I was allergic to EVERYTHING and a neurotic basket case). Stubbornly not wanting to take that path, I 'left my life'. Meaning, I changed absolutely every detail of it I could: I left the city I lived in, I left all the people I was associating with, I changed to a menial, low stress job, I ate simple, healthy meals (not a particular diet, just good basic foods) and exercised every day out in the fresh air. Within two weeks I threw the shots away. Within six weeks I was in robust good health.The second time it really snuck up on me. As a single mother I was struggling to support myself and my son in a city with a high cost of living. It took 7 years to bring me down, but bring me down the stress, challenging work environment and toxic relationship and unbalanced living did, and I was dx'd with a medical nasty. For a second time, I dumped all the suspect elements of my life and moved away. Once again, I've eliminated the major nasty drugs and recovered a fair amount of my health and balance, but it's taking longer in my more advanced years.I still research health practices for what works and doesn't FOR ME. Like others on this list have said, a lot of it is all in the mind.... From: bluegreensolutionsDate: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:31:06 +0000 Re: Neuropathy/mag cal

 

 

 

I agree with you Rebecca, about not taking isolated nutrients. Maybe

in certain cases someone would need a specific vitamin and/or mineral

to address a health problem. Generally, it is best to get nutrients

from foods. Food has all the components that a body needs - carbs,

protein, fatty acids, minerals, vitamins - they are all interdependent

on each other. If need be, you can add a whole food supplement to

fill in the gaps. But remember, there are a lot of companies out

there these days hawking "whole food" supplements, when in fact they

are still isolated substances FROM a whole food. A "real" whole food

supplement will be a one-word ingredient.

 

Carol

 

 

 

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I would agree with the whole food concept in theory---however reality today is very different---and it's not just from the nutrients that are missing from food.

 

One of my primary concerns--and the reason I am interested in the cal/mag/pot. etc... ratio is because of the chemtrails we are inundated with on a daily basis---the primary components of which are barium and aluminum among a host of other metallic and mineral substances. Barium, which appears to be the most prevalent, displaces cal/mag/pot. from the bones. Therefore our entire electrolytre balance is out of kilter--no matter how healthy we eat. And that is just one of a miriad chemical imbalances we are subjected to that is beyond our control no matter how healthy we eat. There are next to no doctors and few other health practicioners who even attempt to try to balance this--even if it could be done.

 

There are millions of unnatural chemicals we ingest daily that have the ability to throw our life balances out of kilter singly---never mind in combinations. All we can do is keep experimenting and find what works for us. Of course detoxing is probably one of the most important things we can do, but I think it's important to replenish also....

 

My thoughts...

Bea--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Rebecca Price <raprice49 wrote:

Rebecca Price <raprice49RE: Re: Neuropathy/mag calhealth_and_healing Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:03 PM

 

 

Yes, it's a 'sticky wicket'--our nutrient intake becomes skewed from eating foods modified by farming chemicals, then shipping and storage practices, finally processing and packaging, so that by the time it gets to our mouths, it bears little relationship to what it was when it started out. We start trying to 'fix' the problems by isolating the missing ingredients and restoring them....and often end up creating a bigger mess. The problem appears systemic.Two times in my life I let modern living completely decimate my health. The first time, the medical fix was to do daily expensive shots and avoid a long list of "don't's eats" (I was allergic to EVERYTHING and a neurotic basket case). Stubbornly not wanting to take that path, I 'left my life'. Meaning, I changed absolutely every detail of it I could: I left the city I lived in, I left all the people I was associating with, I changed to a menial, low stress

job, I ate simple, healthy meals (not a particular diet, just good basic foods) and exercised every day out in the fresh air. Within two weeks I threw the shots away. Within six weeks I was in robust good health.The second time it really snuck up on me. As a single mother I was struggling to support myself and my son in a city with a high cost of living. It took 7 years to bring me down, but bring me down the stress, challenging work environment and toxic relationship and unbalanced living did, and I was dx'd with a medical nasty. For a second time, I dumped all the suspect elements of my life and moved away. Once again, I've eliminated the major nasty drugs and recovered a fair amount of my health and balance, but it's taking longer in my more advanced years.I still research health practices for what works and doesn't FOR ME. Like others on this list have said, a lot of it is all in the

mind....

 

bluegreensolutions@ Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:31:06 +0000[Health_and_ Healing] Re: Neuropathy/mag cal

 

 

I agree with you Rebecca, about not taking isolated nutrients. Maybein certain cases someone would need a specific vitamin and/or mineralto address a health problem. Generally, it is best to get nutrientsfrom foods. Food has all the components that a body needs - carbs,protein, fatty acids, minerals, vitamins - they are all interdependenton each other. If need be, you can add a whole food supplement tofill in the gaps. But remember, there are a lot of companies outthere these days hawking "whole food" supplements, when in fact theyare still isolated substances FROM a whole food. A "real" whole foodsupplement will be a one-word ingredient.Carol

 

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Mineral supplementation is very complex when you address one mineral at a time. To do it properly you should have a hair analysis done. If you want to supplement trace minerals simply for maintenance, your best choice would be sea source minerals because they are organically complexed (as in chlorella, algae, spirulina, etc.) and complete.

 

OIne mineral we should all be taking is selenium which only competes slightly with zinc, iron, vanadium, and sulfur. Any other specific minerals you have questions about? I can help you with them.

 

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausenRe: Neuropathy/mag cal Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:30 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well thanks for this--good stuff to know----then potassium and magnesium are good together? Any other combinations or things to avoid together?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart > wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuart >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 9:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Addition reactions to keep in mind are that calcium will displace zinc and magnesium will conserve potassium. Take zinc alone for best absorption. People have been taught to believe that cal - mag complement each other- and they do in foods: but must be taken separately as supplements for optimal absorption. Companies making supplements are in business to sell. In order for them to sell more, they are more successsful in selling to people's beliefs than they are in selling things that are good for them.--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 11:09 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then why on earth have we been told for so long that the two must be taken together? So many of the supplements are in cal mag ratios... I had always been given to understand that cal, mag, pot, and zinc complemented each other and should be taken together. Gues that's wrong?--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart > wrote:

Tony De Angelis <tntstuart >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do not take competing mineral supplements together; (EX cal and mag). Magnesium should be taken early in the day to promote the generation of bone-building cells (osteoblasts) . Then if you take calcium and other bone nutrients at night the osteoclasts will help them enter and reconfigure new bone structure. This has worked to improve bone mineralization for hundreds of clients that I have followed. PS: no drug has been invented that improves bone structure. Drug may improve dansity but they cause embrittlement and fracture of long bones. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Neuropathy/mag calSunday, August 10, 2008, 3:07 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had always thought that calcium and mag were supposed to be taken together. Can you explain?

 

Thanks

Bea--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:

Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathySaturday, August 9, 2008, 11:47 PM

 

 

Try increasing your Magnesium intake, take twice as much Mag as Calc - if you take Calcium at all - do not take them together - try MSM with VitC - drink 3L decent water - preferably Alkaline water - a day and homeopathically take Arnica and Hypericum - 30C - both twice a day for three weeks - build up to walking "a lot" just gradually - try Mr Acharya's exercises - posted here either earlier this week or last week - do a message search on the list message page for these ......Jane- "magnoliarouge47" <magnoliarouge47@ ><>Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:46 PM[Health_and_ Healing] NeuropathyIs there an alternative method of

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