Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Dear Amanda, You are not out of line by bringing this to my attention. Remember this: The best defense is an awesome offense. DO NOT BACK OFF!!! You need to get downright righteous about this and pull out all the stops in confronting these suppressive idiots. Find a lawyer who'll handle the case gratis = free (lots of free publicity and PR for him as well ;-) and sue them. Name everyone you can in the law suit. Write a letter to your local newspaper, with full particulars, and garner all the public support you can. Start a public movement. And pardon my language, make them sorry they ever fucked with you. You're not just doing this for YOU, you're doing this for the rest of us as well. As such, I'm forwarding this to our entire Herbal Remedies list, including a couple of private lists I own so that others may contact you for support with this if they see fit. You also need to contact the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights. They will help you organize this and may even help in finding a good Lawyer. What city or town do you live in????? I'll look up the local chapter's number for you. This is NOT OK, and they are infringing on your God Given Rights. If you will FIGHT this. One way or another, I'll be there beside you. Yours in Knowledge, Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc PS. ALL 2 year olds are obnoxious, rowdy, and obstreperous. If they aren't, then it's time to worry. PPS. I'm 62 and I'm still obnoxious, rowdy and obstreperous. ;-) PPPS. To all my Friends of Freedom Buddies I've BCC'd this to: Please Help if you can. Ian Shillington N.D. 727-447-5282 DocShillington Amanda Adams wrote: I just read your article on how to prepare for the future and I totally agree. We should all have back up supplies of different sorts. But really don't you think that most of the things we hear about how bad the world is and how to prepare is just a scam to use peoples' fear to make money? I'm not saying that you are doing this. As I said, I agree 100% with you. But it reminds me of when we were being told that there were biological weapons being used against us and we needed to stalk up on plastic sheeting and tape. I mean come on... do people really think that plastic is going to keep these things out?? They were selling out of gas masks, firearms and bottled water all over the country. All for what? I bet President Bush was just sitting back in Texas on one of his many vacations giggling at this country's gullibility. Anyways, I have a situation I need your wisdom and advice on. The other day, Easter Sunday, my two boys ages 2 and 8 were horsing around in the living room. The 2 yr old (Bryan) was standing on a kitchen chair when the 8 yr old (CJ) came over and tried to pull him off of the chair. Apparently Bryan's leg was stuck in the bars on the back of the chair, CJ slipped on something (a plastic easter egg?) and down they both went. I took Bryan to the ER because he was obviously hurt. Turns out he has a spiral fracture to his left leg. You can only imagine the mess I am in now. They said that spirals usually only happen in cases of child abuse and xtreme sports. Considering the fact that my 2 yr old isn't known to skydive or mountain climb, they went ahead and called the police and the state took him from me for a few days. It went from a beautiful Easter to... hell, for lack of a better description. Now I have a social worker due to come over to the house and assess things to make sure that Bryan will be safe. My house is clean and in order. I hid the dead body and meth lab kept in the basement (just kidding). No but seriously, my husband and I are very much into earth based religions so we put everything away that had anything to do with that due to the horror stories that I have heard about people of alternative religions getting their kids taken because they were not christian. But then I got to thinking about the rest. I have shelf after shelf of exotic herbs in the basement along with brewing tinctures and herbal medicine books. My kids are not up to date with their shots because... well I have my own opinion about that and it's not a good positive one. There is nothing dangerous that the kids can get into because the basement remains locked at all times. I guess what I am asking is if you have any advice on this type of situation. I read alot and some of it concerns people being reprimanded in one way or another for not following mainstream medicine. I never had a plan for this because I don't make it a habit of beating my kids so was not expecting there to be any reason for SRS to ever be in my house. I'm not trying to drag you into my personal life, I just needed an opinion from someone more knowledgeable than I in both child rearing and herbal medicine. They have also brought up the notion that perhaps Bryan has ADHD and needed therapy and medicine. This is from a woman who has never seen or spoken with Bryan. He is rowdy and obnoxious... I thought all 2 year olds were. Anyhow, thanks for reading this and I hope I am not out of line for bringing this to you for an opinion. Blessings River Willow Whether you think you can, or you think you can't.... you're right. River Willow Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Dear Obie, I've forwarded your comm on to Amanda, and the two of you can be in direct comm from here on out. Please keep me and the list posted as to actions taken and any out comes. Much love, Doc PS. Amanda, I'll be sending you some more of these kinds of comms very shortly. Some of these people are power people, and one IS an attorney. His name is LD Sledge. They will contact you directly. Obie wrote: Doc, Amanda, I'll help, also, if I can. If Amanda will send me the paperwork, I'll try to look at her State Statutes and see if there was anything they did wrong because, if there is, Amanda can file a Criminal Complaint against them which will blow them out of the pond with worry about what will happen to them and their career. You won't believe how effective this is; much more than filing a law suit, and nothing bad happens to us. If the Grand Jury sees it they will indict the criminal(s) and make them answer for what they've done to you. How would it be for the DA to be your attorney this time? Doc is right; the best defense . . . . Let me know if I can help. Obie. herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Shillington Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:29 AM herbal remedies (AT) Groups (DOT) com {Herbal Remedies} Re: The Future - Article written by Doc Dear Amanda, You are not out of line by bringing this to my attention. Remember this: The best defense is an awesome offense. DO NOT BACK OFF!!! You need to get downright righteous about this and pull out all the stops in confronting these suppressive idiots. Find a lawyer who'll handle the case gratis = free (lots of free publicity and PR for him as well ;-) and sue them. Name everyone you can in the law suit. Write a letter to your local newspaper, with full particulars, and garner all the public support you can. Start a public movement. And pardon my language, make them sorry they ever fucked with you. You're not just doing this for YOU, you're doing this for the rest of us as well. As such, I'm forwarding this to our entire Herbal Remedies list, including a couple of private lists I own so that others may contact you for support with this if they see fit. You also need to contact the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights. They will help you organize this and may even help in finding a good Lawyer. What city or town do you live in????? I'll look up the local chapter's number for you. This is NOT OK, and they are infringing on your God Given Rights. If you will FIGHT this. One way or another, I'll be there beside you. Yours in Knowledge, Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc PS. ALL 2 year olds are obnoxious, rowdy, and obstreperous. If they aren't, then it's time to worry. PPS. I'm 62 and I'm still obnoxious, rowdy and obstreperous. ;-) PPPS. To all my Friends of Freedom Buddies I've BCC'd this to: Please Help if you can. Ian Shillington N.D. 727-447-5282 DocShillington Amanda Adams wrote: I just read your article on how to prepare for the future and I totally agree. We should all have back up supplies of different sorts. But really don't you think that most of the things we hear about how bad the world is and how to prepare is just a scam to use peoples' fear to make money? I'm not saying that you are doing this. As I said, I agree 100% with you. But it reminds me of when we were being told that there were biological weapons being used against us and we needed to stalk up on plastic sheeting and tape. I mean come on... do people really think that plastic is going to keep these things out?? They were selling out of gas masks, firearms and bottled water all over the country. All for what? I bet President Bush was just sitting back in Texas on one of his many vacations giggling at this country's gullibility. Anyways, I have a situation I need your wisdom and advice on. The other day, Easter Sunday, my two boys ages 2 and 8 were horsing around in the living room. The 2 yr old (Bryan) was standing on a kitchen chair when the 8 yr old (CJ) came over and tried to pull him off of the chair. Apparently Bryan's leg was stuck in the bars on the back of the chair, CJ slipped on something (a plastic easter egg?) and down they both went. I took Bryan to the ER because he was obviously hurt. Turns out he has a spiral fracture to his left leg. You can only imagine the mess I am in now. They said that spirals usually only happen in cases of child abuse and xtreme sports. Considering the fact that my 2 yr old isn't known to skydive or mountain climb, they went ahead and called the police and the state took him from me for a few days. It went from a beautiful Easter to... hell, for lack of a better description. Now I have a social worker due to come over to the house and assess things to make sure that Bryan will be safe. My house is clean and in order. I hid the dead body and meth lab kept in the basement (just kidding). No but seriously, my husband and I are very much into earth based religions so we put everything away that had anything to do with that due to the horror stories that I have heard about people of alternative religions getting their kids taken because they were not christian. But then I got to thinking about the rest. I have shelf after shelf of exotic herbs in the basement along with brewing tinctures and herbal medicine books. My kids are not up to date with their shots because... well I have my own opinion about that and it's not a good positive one. There is nothing dangerous that the kids can get into because the basement remains locked at all times. I guess what I am asking is if you have any advice on this type of situation. I read alot and some of it concerns people being reprimanded in one way or another for not following mainstream medicine. I never had a plan for this because I don't make it a habit of beating my kids so was not expecting there to be any reason for SRS to ever be in my house. I'm not trying to drag you into my personal life, I just needed an opinion from someone more knowledgeable than I in both child rearing and herbal medicine. They have also brought up the notion that perhaps Bryan has ADHD and needed therapy and medicine. This is from a woman who has never seen or spoken with Bryan. He is rowdy and obnoxious... I thought all 2 year olds were. Anyhow, thanks for reading this and I hope I am not out of line for bringing this to you for an opinion. Blessings River Willow Whether you think you can, or you think you can't.... you're right. River Willow Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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