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Hi all

 

Anyone knows of USA based naturopathy school where I could get a

degree in herbalogy and it would be recognized in England?

I'll be transfering to England but don't want to invest into a degree

that would not be recognized in England.

 

Any info appreciated

 

Thanks

Ana

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Dear Ana,

Check in England.

They will tell you what's accepted over there.

Best,

Doc

 

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Hi allAnyone knows of USA based naturopathy school where I could get a degree in herbalogy and it would be recognized in England?I'll be transfering to England but don't want to invest into a degree that would not be recognized in England.Any info appreciatedThanksAna

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hey Doc, what about here in Canada? you said before you lived up here do you know of a good place for us to learn. also i like the idea of a good book for herbs, can you recomend one that is a good starting place? Darren"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Dear Ana, Check in England. They will tell you what's accepted over there. Best, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com - nutritionfriend herbal remedies Monday, September 11, 2006 6:03 PM Herbal Remedies - HERBOLOGY DEGREE Hi allAnyone knows of USA based naturopathy school where I could get a degree in herbalogy and it would be recognized in England?I'll be transfering to England but don't want to invest into a degree that would not be recognized in England.Any info appreciatedThanksAna

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The Southwest College Of Naturopathic Medicene in Scottsdale, Arizona

has a program that I am sure would provide acceptable credentials but

you have to already have a bachelors degree before you can attend and

it is not offered via correspondence. I have heard it is not as much

of a whore for the supplement industry as the other accredited schools

in the US. Clayton School Of Naturopathy is a correspondence course

program that has been around many years and contrary to what some

people say, it is not a diploma mill. I don't know if it would provide

the credentials you need. Trinity is supposed to have a similar

correspondence program but I don't really know much about it. Contact

these schools via the web and request literature and speak to/email

enrollment advisers. Paul Autrey

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herbal remedies , " nutritionfriend "

<nutritionfriend wrote:

>

> Hi all

>

> Anyone knows of USA based naturopathy school where I could get a

> degree in herbalogy and it would be recognized in England?

> I'll be transfering to England but don't want to invest into a degree

> that would not be recognized in England.

>

> Any info appreciated

>

> Thanks

> Ana

>

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There used to be a top notch Naturopathic School in BC. It was the one that Doc Christopher went to and I believe it was in Vancouver, but may possibly have been in Victoria.

It might still be there. Check it out and let us know.

Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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exodia yugi

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:25 PM

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hey Doc,

what about here in Canada? you said before you lived up here do you know of a good place for us to learn.

also i like the idea of a good book for herbs, can you recomend one that is a good starting place?

Darren"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington (AT) Knology (DOT) net> wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Ana,

Check in England.

They will tell you what's accepted over there.

Best,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com

 

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Monday, September 11, 2006 6:03 PM

Herbal Remedies - HERBOLOGY DEGREE

 

 

Hi allAnyone knows of USA based naturopathy school where I could get a degree in herbalogy and it would be recognized in England?I'll be transfering to England but don't want to invest into a degree that would not be recognized in England.Any info appreciatedThanksAna

 

 

 

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I am currently attending Clayton, I have a Family Herbalist

Certificate, and am aquiring my Consulting Herbalist Cert. right

now. After which I plan on going for the Master Herbalist, THEN I

will transfer over to the degree programs. I'de like to get a

Natural Health degree with an emphasis in Herbology. Of course all

of my friends (except for those here) think I am weird. I really

like Clayton and they are very good to work with... very helpful. I

think it is a great place to begin. I love taking the tests on line.

It is much easier than sending it through the mail. Of course if you

want to have your question answered completely their site is

www.ccnh.edu

 

Best Regards,

Tina

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2

wrote:

>

> The Southwest College Of Naturopathic Medicene in Scottsdale,

Arizona

> has a program that I am sure would provide acceptable credentials

but

> you have to already have a bachelors degree before you can attend

and

> it is not offered via correspondence. I have heard it is not as

much

> of a whore for the supplement industry as the other accredited

schools

> in the US. Clayton School Of Naturopathy is a correspondence

course

> program that has been around many years and contrary to what some

> people say, it is not a diploma mill. I don't know if it would

provide

> the credentials you need. Trinity is supposed to have a similar

> correspondence program but I don't really know much about it.

Contact

> these schools via the web and request literature and speak

to/email

> enrollment advisers. Paul Autrey

>

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>

> herbal remedies , " nutritionfriend "

> <nutritionfriend@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Anyone knows of USA based naturopathy school where I could get a

> > degree in herbalogy and it would be recognized in England?

> > I'll be transfering to England but don't want to invest into a

degree

> > that would not be recognized in England.

> >

> > Any info appreciated

> >

> > Thanks

> > Ana

> >

>

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herbal remedies , " Nik " <ryotboi wrote:

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> Check out www.aanmc.org for a list of accredited US & Canadian

> colleges for naturopathy, which includes homeopathy & herbology.

>

 

While it's true that the above site will give you a list of the " accredited "

colleges of

naturopathy, just be aware that these schools are very rooted in what is

considered

traditional western medicine. They teach such invasive procedures as minor

surgery, x-

rays and administration of some prescription drugs. In my book, that's not

naturopathy.

 

There are numerous good schools that offer degrees and certification in

Herbology that

are not one of these " medico wanabee " schools.

 

Laurel

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What school do you think is best? I was looking at Clayton. My mom started their naturopathy program but didn't finish. I'd like to do the herbalist certificates, all 3 but then what does that get me? It's not a BS/BA or MS. I don't want to waste my $ and time to not be hired. My thought is to work in a health care office of some sort as a herbal consultant. Would that be right? Anyone here done a program and is actually employed? Here's another twist for me...right now I work for a hospital and have 16 years towards my retirement (only need 30 to retire at 52). I would want to stay in the system. Right now they have one site called "integrative medicine" which has a chiropractor, acupuncture, massage therapy, reflexology. I'm hoping they would want to expand that and include an herbalist at some point in the future. That would keep me in the hospital system I'm in now. In

addition, I already have a BA Microbiology/Genetics and grow my own herbs. Are there better options out there for what I want than Clayton? Michelle www.theherbalwitch.com

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You might take a look at the Global College of Natural Medicine.

 

http://www.gcnm.com/master-herbalist-program.html

 

They have a Master Herbalist program that is shorter and less expensive than

Clayton's

(though Clayton is supposed to be a good school). If you're looking to get

started more

quickly that may be the better option. They are both accredited by the same

agencies and

offer the same certifications.

 

I had been considering Clayton as well to study naturopathy, but as it's

difficult to practice

naturopathy in the states that license it unless you've gone to one of the five

" approved "

schools, I've decided to try GCNM's Holistic Health Practitioner program.

 

Hopefully one day there will be more schools out there training traditional

naturopaths

and they will be allowed to practice their art without harrassment from

allopaths.

 

Laurel

 

 

 

herbal remedies , Michelle Snodgrass

<michelle_cols_oh

wrote:

>

> What school do you think is best? I was looking at Clayton. My mom started

their

naturopathy program but didn't finish. I'd like to do the herbalist

certificates, all 3 but

then what does that get me? It's not a BS/BA or MS. I don't want to waste my $

and time

to not be hired. My thought is to work in a health care office of some sort as

a herbal

consultant. Would that be right? Anyone here done a program and is actually

employed?

Here's another twist for me...right now I work for a hospital and have 16 years

towards my

retirement (only need 30 to retire at 52). I would want to stay in the system.

Right now

they have one site called " integrative medicine " which has a chiropractor,

acupuncture,

massage therapy, reflexology. I'm hoping they would want to expand that and

include an

herbalist at some point in the future. That would keep me in the hospital

system I'm in

now.

> In addition, I already have a BA Microbiology/Genetics and grow my own

herbs. Are

there better options out there for what I want than Clayton?

>

> Michelle

>

>

>

>

> www.theherbalwitch.com

>

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Dear Michelle,

I am a certified Master Herbalist and got my certificate from Australasian College of Health Sciences in Portland Oregon (www.achs.edu). The reason I chose them is because they are the ONLY distance education and training school that is accredited. I didn't want to spend time getting a degree and not being accepted by employers because my school wasn't accredited. Their course is 2400 hours long, takes 2 years and is intense. I chose the Master Herbalist degree because I figured if I was going to pay the big $$, I wanted the whole thing, not just the Home Herbalist, or the Basics. They've expanded since I graduated in 2003 - they now offer Botanical Pharmacognosy & Phytochemistry online, which may be a good choice for you.

 

Visit their website and compare with Clayton's.

 

Kathi

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Michelle SnodgrassThursday, September 21, 2006 10:12 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: HERBOLOGY DEGREE

 

 

 

What school do you think is best? I was looking at Clayton. My mom started their naturopathy program but didn't finish. I'd like to do the herbalist certificates, all 3 but then what does that get me? It's not a BS/BA or MS. I don't want to waste my $ and time to not be hired. My thought is to work in a health care office of some sort as a herbal consultant. Would that be right? Anyone here done a program and is actually employed? Here's another twist for me...right now I work for a hospital and have 16 years towards my retirement (only need 30 to retire at 52). I would want to stay in the system. Right now they have one site called "integrative medicine" which has a chiropractor, acupuncture, massage therapy, reflexology. I'm hoping they would want to expand that and include an herbalist at some point in the future. That would keep me in the hospital system I'm in now.

In addition, I already have a BA Microbiology/Genetics and grow my own herbs. Are there better options out there for what I want than Clayton?

 

Michelle

 

 

 

www.theherbalwitch.com

 

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And I have no use for any of them. These are the Bastyr boys who are trying for a Naturopathic Monopoly, and who in my books are nothing more than Medical Doctor Wannabees.

 

They do minor operations and can prescribe certain drugs.

 

What kind of Naturopathy is that???

 

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Nik

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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:55 AM

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Check out www.aanmc.org for a list of accredited US & Canadiancolleges for naturopathy, which includes homeopathy & herbology.

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For the nonce, the best out there is Doc Christopher's School of Natural Healing.

 

Right now, getting an ND degree is a bit risky as a result of Codex Alimentarius being just around the corner. For those of you who are fairly new to the list and have no information on Codex, go to

Dr. Rima Laibow's website at: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/

I highly recommend purchasing her DVD on the subject. It is scary, but it does give you something you can DO about it. If we don't we could loose all of our Health Rights by Dec 2009. Even though I've never personally met Dr. Laibow, I've communicated with her many times and consider her a friend.

 

I received my Naturopathic Doctor's diploma from Trinity College in Indiana and it was a 4 to 5 year series of intense courses. It was fairly good and quite comprehensive and the whole thing can be done via correspondence. My favorite part of their entire curriculum was the 7,000 word, 45 page thesis / dissertation required at the end of the program ;-) As most of you know, I love to write so their syllabus was very acceptable to me.

 

I've heard that Clayton and Southwest are also good, but have no first hand experience here, so you'll have to research these on your own.

 

I currently have 3 top notch herbalists working for me. If some guy or gal walked in off the street and had a Master Herbalist's Diploma from Doc Christopher's School of Natural Healing, I'd hire them in a heart beat.

 

It really is the best bet at this time.

 

In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom,

 

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Michelle Snodgrass

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Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:12 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: HERBOLOGY DEGREE

 

 

 

What school do you think is best? I was looking at Clayton. My mom started their naturopathy program but didn't finish. I'd like to do the herbalist certificates, all 3 but then what does that get me? It's not a BS/BA or MS. I don't want to waste my $ and time to not be hired. My thought is to work in a health care office of some sort as a herbal consultant. Would that be right? Anyone here done a program and is actually employed? Here's another twist for me...right now I work for a hospital and have 16 years towards my retirement (only need 30 to retire at 52). I would want to stay in the system. Right now they have one site called "integrative medicine" which has a chiropractor, acupuncture, massage therapy, reflexology. I'm hoping they would want to expand that and include an herbalist at some point in the future. That would keep me in the hospital system I'm in now.

In addition, I already have a BA Microbiology/Genetics and grow my own herbs. Are there better options out there for what I want than Clayton?

 

Michelle

 

 

 

www.theherbalwitch.com

 

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Right on Laurel.

Glad to see you've got your eyes open.

As I've mentioned before, the Bastyr Boys (what I call all four of them) not only teach minor surgery and practice prescription dispersement, but they are fully attempting a monopoly of Naturopathy, and cutting out the rest such as Doc Christopher's School of Natural Healing and my alma mater Trinity College, South West, and Clayton. They are using the same techniques that the Medicos used to get their monopoly, and they are not nice people.

I wouldn't go to one of these four if someone paid me to go.

I hate fakes, and these are at the top of my list.

In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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laureltheartist

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Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:29 AM

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herbal remedies , "Nik" <ryotboi wrote:>> Check out www.aanmc.org for a list of accredited US & Canadian> colleges for naturopathy, which includes homeopathy & herbology.>While it's true that the above site will give you a list of the "accredited" colleges of naturopathy, just be aware that these schools are very rooted in what is considered traditional western medicine. They teach such invasive procedures as minor surgery, x-rays and administration of some prescription drugs. In my book, that's not naturopathy.There are numerous good schools that offer degrees and certification in Herbology that are not one of these "medico wanabee" schools. Laurel

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Accredited by whom??? I've never heard of them.

Far toooo much credence and attention is put on accreditation nowadays.

The problem is that Big Pharma has infiltrated too many of these "halls of learning", just like they have with many of the Bigger Health Food Stores and Chains.

As I said earlier, I'd hire a graduate from Doc Christopher's School of Natural Healing any day of the week, and as far as I know they have no accreditation from anyone.

Any WHY?????

Because no one meets their standards of excellence, that's why.

When you're the best, who's to say otherwise, and having some government regulated body passing a license means absolutely nothing.

Most states do not license Naturopathic Doctors. There's a few that do and these are monopolized by the Bastyr Boys, using a con that managed to pass through the local state legislatures, to the discredit of the all the rest. They were able to do this by aligning themselves with the main line Medicos and the Big Pharma.

I say again.

The best out there at this time is:

* Doc Christopher's School of Natural Healing.

In Knowledge, Health, & Freedom,

Doc

* PS. I make no money for promoting this fact. I've talked to David Christopher only a couple of times, and I promote this solely from a viewpoint of Ethical honesty. Sign up for the Master Herbalist Curriculum. You will be able to make a difference with this education, and truly be able to HELP!!!!!

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Kathi Garrison

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Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:14 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Re: HERBOLOGY DEGREE

 

 

 

Dear Michelle,

I am a certified Master Herbalist and got my certificate from Australasian College of Health Sciences in Portland Oregon (www.achs.edu). The reason I chose them is because they are the ONLY distance education and training school that is accredited. I didn't want to spend time getting a degree and not being accepted by employers because my school wasn't accredited. Their course is 2400 hours long, takes 2 years and is intense. I chose the Master Herbalist degree because I figured if I was going to pay the big $$, I wanted the whole thing, not just the Home Herbalist, or the Basics. They've expanded since I graduated in 2003 - they now offer Botanical Pharmacognosy & Phytochemistry online, which may be a good choice for you.

 

Visit their website and compare with Clayton's.

 

Kathi

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Michelle SnodgrassThursday, September 21, 2006 10:12 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: HERBOLOGY DEGREE

 

 

 

What school do you think is best? I was looking at Clayton. My mom started their naturopathy program but didn't finish. I'd like to do the herbalist certificates, all 3 but then what does that get me? It's not a BS/BA or MS. I don't want to waste my $ and time to not be hired. My thought is to work in a health care office of some sort as a herbal consultant. Would that be right? Anyone here done a program and is actually employed? Here's another twist for me...right now I work for a hospital and have 16 years towards my retirement (only need 30 to retire at 52). I would want to stay in the system. Right now they have one site called "integrative medicine" which has a chiropractor, acupuncture, massage therapy, reflexology. I'm hoping they would want to expand that and include an herbalist at some point in the future. That would keep me in the hospital system I'm in now.

In addition, I already have a BA Microbiology/Genetics and grow my own herbs. Are there better options out there for what I want than Clayton?

 

Michelle

 

 

 

www.theherbalwitch.com

 

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"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: As I've mentioned before, the Bastyr Boys (what I call all four of them) not only teach minor surgery and practice prescription dispersement, but they are fully attempting a monopoly of Naturopathy Doc, Are you referring to Bastyr University? I was considering attending there since I live in Seattle and am so close to it. However, if this is what they are about I will look elsewhere as I would be greatly opposed (and would be quite vocal about it too) to this sort

of thing. I wouldn't want my degree from there (probably wouldn't earn it as I would be so vocally opposed to these things). hugs, Willow Only when the last tree has diedAnd the last river has been poisonedAnd the last fish has been caughtWill we realizeWe cannot eat money.

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Thanks for the info Doc and Laura. I did get some info from Dr. Christopher's school last week. Hopefully I can start pursuing something soon. There was an article today about alternative medicine at Cleveland State Univ. hospitals so hopefully it will spread to Ohio State too. Then I'd be set! Not saying that "alternative" medicine necessarily means the same as naturopathy but it's better than drug pushers :) Michelle www.theherbalwitch.com

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