Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Two questions, actually: 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, if at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a company that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual herbs I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the only site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of chaparral was: http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that said it was ok in small doses. 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had heard the very opposite. Thanks in advance for any help on this. Dan Hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Chaparral needs to be taken with caution. This grows all around the desert here in Mesquite, Nevada. I go and pick the bushes and dry the leaves and make a tea with it. Use it sparingly. It was an ingredient in Json Winters Tea. However, the USA FDA or whatever made it illegal in the USA. So now I go pick it. I used a very small portion in the tea and I did acquire a taste for it. I do not know if it helped with the cancer I had, but the Poly-MVA was the main cure for me. June - "gracegnade" <gracegnade <herbal remedies > Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:52 PM Herbal Remedies - Safety of Chaparral?? > Two questions, actually:> 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, if> at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a company> that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual herbs> I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the only> site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of chaparral was:> http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html> But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that> said it was ok in small doses.> > 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of> essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has> anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had> heard the very opposite.> > Thanks in advance for any help on this.> > Dan Hamilton> > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Hello gracegnade, I live where the chapparral grows in the wild, Ive been collecting and using it for about 12 years with no ill effects, I use it as a tea and as a tincture and its one of the main ingredients in my Herbal Antibiotic- It is now being sold in dry form in our groceries as a tea, but Im sure its not as potent as the stuff I collect myself. Its particularly helpful during a cold, because it helps to dry things up. Best collected in the Spring just as it begins to bloom- its particularly strong then, but its still worth collecting almost any time of the year. And it lasts forever it seems like. Its called the Creosote Bush here because of its distinctive smell. You know when they are about long before you can see them. If I had to limit myself to only 12 herbs, Chapparral would be on the top of the list. This doesn't mean that you can use it indiscriminitely- It CAN be overdone, your body should tell you when you've had enough. I don't think we have any useful herb that you can't find negative reports about, Pay attention to who wrote the article, who did the research and who paid for the research. Im sure you will find all manner of Ulterior motives behind the negativity. zoe Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:52:27 PM, you wrote: > Two questions, actually: > 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, if > at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a company > that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual herbs > I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the only > site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of chaparral was: > http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html > But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that > said it was ok in small doses. > 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of > essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has > anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had > heard the very opposite. > Thanks in advance for any help on this. > Dan Hamilton > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner > and members free of any liability. > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I drink Chaparral tea regularly, no problem. -- In herbal remedies , " gracegnade " <gracegnade wrote: > > Two questions, actually: > 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, if > at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a company > that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual herbs > I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the only > site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of chaparral was: > http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html > But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that > said it was ok in small doses. > > 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of > essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has > anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had > heard the very opposite. > > Thanks in advance for any help on this. > > Dan Hamilton > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Yes, you can eat too many Hershey bars too..... herbal remedies , zoe w <ilovegrafix wrote: > > Hello gracegnade, > I live where the chapparral grows in the wild, Ive been collecting and using it for about 12 years with no ill effects, I use it as a tea and as a tincture and its one of the main ingredients in my Herbal Antibiotic- It is now being sold in dry form in our groceries as a tea, but Im sure its not as potent as the stuff I collect myself. > Its particularly helpful during a cold, because it helps to dry things up. Best collected in the Spring just as it begins to bloom- its particularly strong then, but its still worth collecting almost any time of the year. And it lasts forever it seems like. Its called the Creosote Bush here because of its distinctive smell. You know when they are about long before you can see them. If I had to limit myself to only 12 herbs, Chapparral would be on the top of the list. > > This doesn't mean that you can use it indiscriminitely- It CAN be overdone, your body should tell you when you've had enough. > > I don't think we have any useful herb that you can't find negative reports about, Pay attention to who wrote the article, who did the research and who paid for the research. Im sure you will find all manner of Ulterior motives > behind the negativity. > zoe > Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:52:27 PM, you wrote: > > > Two questions, actually: > > 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, if > > at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a company > > that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual herbs > > I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the only > > site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of chaparral was: > > http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html > > But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that > > said it was ok in small doses. > > > 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of > > essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has > > anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had > > heard the very opposite. > > > Thanks in advance for any help on this. > > > Dan Hamilton > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > > products from list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner > > and members free of any liability. > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 --- My personal opinion (and it is an opinion, not a fact), is that any herb that shows it can be helpful is banned by the FDA. One of the herbs that is also banned by the FDA as being " unsafe for human consumption " is Lobelia as it can cause stomach cramps if too much is ingested. (???) There are a alot of products that can cause stomach cramps if too much is ingested! (Ex-Lax, aspirin, too much food...) Lobelia is a strong herb that needs to be used with caution. I have used it successfully (without any side effects or " cramping " ) for short periods of time. I even was able to use it to avoid a D & C from a miscarriage back in 1984. (Saved myself thousands of dollars AND the risk of a potentially dangerous operation! All for about .50c) Chapparal is safe if used for short periods of time. IF you are allergic to it, then NO, it is not safe! Otherwise, herbalists have been using it for years. I have only used it once. (No need to use it again) Lori In herbal remedies , " gracegnade " <gracegnade wrote: > > Two questions, actually: > 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, if > at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a company > that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual herbs > I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the only > site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of chaparral was: > http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html > But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that > said it was ok in small doses. > > 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of > essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has > anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had > heard the very opposite. > > Thanks in advance for any help on this. > > Dan Hamilton > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Your personal opinion is exactly what I have observed to actually happen in the past 25 years. Lobelia is quite useful and another one that can easily be grown. zoe Saturday, August 19, 2006, 12:27:56 PM, you wrote: > --- My personal opinion (and it is an opinion, not a fact), is that > any herb that shows it can be helpful is banned by the FDA. One of > the herbs that is also banned by the FDA as being "unsafe for human > consumption" is Lobelia as it can cause stomach cramps if too much > is ingested. (???) There are a alot of products that can cause > stomach cramps if too much is ingested! (Ex-Lax, aspirin, too much > food...) > Lobelia is a strong herb that needs to be used with caution. I have > used it successfully (without any side effects or "cramping") for > short periods of time. I even was able to use it to avoid a D & C from > a miscarriage back in 1984. (Saved myself thousands of dollars AND > the risk of a potentially dangerous operation! All for about .50c) > Chapparal is safe if used for short periods of time. IF you are > allergic to it, then NO, it is not safe! Otherwise, herbalists have > been using it for years. I have only used it once. (No need to use > it again) > Lori > In herbal remedies , "gracegnade" <gracegnade > wrote: >> Two questions, actually: >> 1) Can anyone tell me about how chaparral may be taken safely, > if >> at all? I have a blood detox herbal tincture mixture from a > company >> that I have respected, but when I was looking up the individual > herbs >> I found quite a bit of negative reporting about chapparal - the > only >> site that I found a study that supported safe ingestion of > chaparral was: >> http://www.raysahelian.com/chaparral.html >> But even so a negative study was cited first and then a study that >> said it was ok in small doses. >> 2) This same blood detox mixture has some small amounts of >> essential oils in it. It is a mixture meant for ingestion. Has >> anyone ever heard of taking essential oils into the body?? I had >> heard the very opposite. >> Thanks in advance for any help on this. >> Dan Hamilton > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner > and members free of any liability. > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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