Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Please this is urgent. Head lice, need I say more. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Kim, I have had too much experience with this. Now, I’m not one to worry and fuss about things or make too big a deal of things. But in the case of head lice, I became stubbornly thorough out of necessity. I have found that most people, including some school staff, are way too lax. Lice is a bit of a nightmare, but you WILL be through it in a couple weeks, and then your life will return to normal. I say it’s nightmarish because of the fact that you’re fighting something so minute, that it’s a bit of a challenge to stay cheerful. My family has been through it twice, and we became experts on handling it. I had a number of friends and relatives who had to deal with it. I warned them of everything they needed to do. They each thought I was being too dramatic and so didn’t do all the steps. One for one, they later called saying, “You were right!” when it had gone out of control. I have a bunch of literature here at home that I’ve lent to people when I could see them in person. This all happened many years ago, and now that we have the Internet, I’m sure there’s TONS of data to be found easily. I suggest reading a number of things to not only learn the steps to take but also to understand lice (a lovely subject) so you can fight them properly. Things you need to do immediately: 1. Notify anyone who has been in contact with anyone in your family recently. This includes calling your children’s school. Then keep to yourselves. Stay home until this is handled, and don’t be hugging each other. If you have to go to the store, wear something that contains your head and hair. (Don’t be embarrassed. Lice infestation has nothing to do with personal cleanliness, social class, etc.) 2. Wash everyone’s hair in anti-lice shampoo – even those whom you haven’t found any lice or nits (louse eggs) on. (Years ago, we had to use Rid, which is very toxic, but it worked. I’m not at all up on what they have today, and I’ll bet there’s some natural way to treat this.) 3. Gather up all combs and brushes, sheets and pillowcases (even clean ones,) coats, hats, towels, and any clothes recently worn by anyone, even if clean, and wash them in HOT water and dry them in the HOTTEST dryer. You can take things like stuffed animals, decorative pillows, or anything you don’t need for awhile and put them in plastic bags and stick them in the garage for a month instead of washing them. (Wait – maybe that just works if it’s cold outside – you’ll have to research.) 4. Thoroughly vacuum your house, including the furniture and mattresses. (Yeah, I know – this is not fun!) 5. Now comes the really fun part. At the first opportunity, go through everyone’s hair with them sitting by a window or outside. It has to be daylight, and it’s easiest in sunlight. You need to “nit pick.” Yes, that’s where that expression comes from. You actually have to look at every single hair on everyone’s head in the daylight. The nits just don’t show up in artificial light. This takes a lot of time. If you can cut anyone’s hair, it will help. If you have boys, this would be the time to take advantage of the shaved head look or at least buzz cuts. You’re looking for tiny eggs not much wider than a strand of hair. You need to find pictures of them to see what you’re looking for. They’re sort of teardrop shaped and shine like a pearl in the light. I forget the color – maybe yellowish or grayish. They are attached to strands of hair usually just a quarter inch to an inch from the scalp, usually around the crown of the head or nape. They have to be scraped off of the hair, and I found that nit combs don’t work very well. I usually ended up scraping them off with my fingernail or pulling out the whole hair. THEN, you must contain the nits in a baggie. Do NOT let them fall on the floor. They can hatch anywhere. You usually won’t see the louse itself, although my friend did find one on her kid. It’s easier to find the actual lice in blonde hair. I think it’s easier to find the nits in dark hair. Even if you only find one nit in someone’s hair, it means they are to some degree infested. (We actually had to go through a friend’s hair who was visiting when we discovered this problem.) You should do this every day, because sometimes you miss nits. And see, even though the shampoo kills the lice, it doesn’t necessarily kill the nits. This is the tricky part, which leads me to number 6. 6. You have to shampoo everyone’s hair with the stuff AGAIN 10 days later, I think it is, because that’s when any remaining nits will be hatching. PEOPLE SKIP THIS STEP, BECAUSE THEY ASSUME THEY’RE OUT OF THE WOODS. SOON THEY FIND, LIKE, 50 NITS IN THEIR KIDS’ HAIR, AND THEY’RE REALLY IN TROUBLE! Because, you see, if just one nit is allowed to live, it hatches, and multiplies like crazy. Lice are constant breeders, and they’re tough survivors. 7. Also, KEEP YOUR KIDS HOME UNTIL YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE ALL LICE AND NITS ARE GONE FROM YOUR FAMILY AND FROM THEIR ENTIRE SCHOOL. I was very stubborn about that, especially since my daughter had hair down to her butt. When I heard some kids at school had lice, I kept her home for a month, because I was still hearing reports of lice at school, even though the teachers and director were mad at me for not sending her. They did head checks every day. Parents volunteered. (Everybody was wearing shower caps. This one poor teacher had to wash her hair in Rid so many times, that her doctor finally forbade her to do it again for fear she wouldn’t be able to bear children!) STILL, when I finally sent my daughter, they checked her head and found one nit and sent her home. She must have gotten it from the kid across the street who went to a different school! (Sometimes there are epidemics.) There’s nothing worse than going through all this and think everything’s handled only to have to do it all over again a week or two later. So be overly cautious. It’s easy to mistake little white flakes in the hair from dry scalp for nits. But when you truly see a nit, there’s no question. Plus, it’s stuck to the hair, whereas flakes just flick off. OK, that’s all I remember. Educate yourself and members of your family and, if need be, friends, neighbors, or school staff. Good luck! May this be your only lice adventure! Carole herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Kim Friday, July 14, 2006 12:59 PM herbal remedies Herbal Remedies - Help-Emergency-Lice Please this is urgent. Head lice, need I say more. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Thick hair grease will suffocate them in a day or so. Just be sure to put it all through the hair and leave it in for a couple day to kill the eggs too. A little tough to wash out but two/three days is better than two weeks. Talma > 1. Help-Emergency-Lice > Posted by: " Kim " irishgirl75 kimberclem > Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:59 pm (PDT) > > Please this is urgent. Head lice, need I say more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 ---Go to the dollar store and buy a quart of mayonnaise. Wash child's hair, cover well with mayonnaise, wrap head in plastic wrap and blow dry the wrap (with out burning kid's scalp), and keep heat on for about 10 minutes. Allow the wrapped head to stay wrapped for at least 2 hours. I usually put an old towel on head, too, or at least around neck (mayinnaise is oil based and will leak!) Wash hair again very well. Wrap in towel (I place all these contaminated towels plus bedding, clothes, etc, in plastic bags until they are washed and dried (dryer ONLY, no outside drying!). Then use a special comb (purchase at pharmacy, use a metal comb, no plastic, these are junk, that has the teeth so close together you would have to use dental floss to clean between them), and then you must go through child's hair very carefully, a few strands at a time. all dead (and maybe live bugs!) need to be placed in a container that will kill them. (I usually use a tissue to wipe off comb and place in a special trash can with a plastic bag that I dispose of immediately after I am finished with child's hair). Continue to do entire scalp. You will remove dead bugs and nits (small black " spots " that are small bugs) and eggs. Do a thorough job. If you miss just ONE egg/nit you will have a reinfestation. You might condsider redoing this job after a week. Wash all of child's bedding, clothing they have worn recently, and even their brushes and combs in washer/dryer. If small kids, place all stuffed animals, dolls in a plastic bag for two weeks. (I have even washed and dried these, too, especially favorite dolls or animals). Wash anything and everything you think they may have contaminated. I have even resorted to buying spray for couches just to make sure! We have had lice hit our house 2 times in past 23 years. Both times it was brought home from school. (Before we homeschooled.) Good luck! These are NASTY critters! Lori In herbal remedies , " Kim " <irishgirl75 wrote: > > Please this is urgent. Head lice, need I say more. > > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Good advice Carol. If I may piggy back on your answer, I'd recommend sleeping with Castor Oil rubbed into the scalp and a shower cap to kill the critters and the eggs. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Carole Eddington herbal remedies Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:04 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Help-Emergency-Lice Kim, I have had too much experience with this. Now, I’m not one to worry and fuss about things or make too big a deal of things. But in the case of head lice, I became stubbornly thorough out of necessity. I have found that most people, including some school staff, are way too lax. Lice is a bit of a nightmare, but you WILL be through it in a couple weeks, and then your life will return to normal. I say it’s nightmarish because of the fact that you’re fighting something so minute, that it’s a bit of a challenge to stay cheerful. My family has been through it twice, and we became experts on handling it. I had a number of friends and relatives who had to deal with it. I warned them of everything they needed to do. They each thought I was being too dramatic and so didn’t do all the steps. One for one, they later called saying, “You were right!” when it had gone out of control. I have a bunch of literature here at home that I’ve lent to people when I could see them in person. This all happened many years ago, and now that we have the Internet, I’m sure there’s TONS of data to be found easily. I suggest reading a number of things to not only learn the steps to take but also to understand lice (a lovely subject) so you can fight them properly. Things you need to do immediately: 1. Notify anyone who has been in contact with anyone in your family recently. This includes calling your children’s school. Then keep to yourselves. Stay home until this is handled, and don’t be hugging each other. If you have to go to the store, wear something that contains your head and hair. (Don’t be embarrassed. Lice infestation has nothing to do with personal cleanliness, social class, etc.) 2. Wash everyone’s hair in anti-lice shampoo – even those whom you haven’t found any lice or nits (louse eggs) on. (Years ago, we had to use Rid, which is very toxic, but it worked. I’m not at all up on what they have today, and I’ll bet there’s some natural way to treat this.) 3. Gather up all combs and brushes, sheets and pillowcases (even clean ones,) coats, hats, towels, and any clothes recently worn by anyone, even if clean, and wash them in HOT water and dry them in the HOTTEST dryer. You can take things like stuffed animals, decorative pillows, or anything you don’t need for awhile and put them in plastic bags and stick them in the garage for a month instead of washing them. (Wait – maybe that just works if it’s cold outside – you’ll have to research.) 4. Thoroughly vacuum your house, including the furniture and mattresses. (Yeah, I know – this is not fun!) 5. Now comes the really fun part. At the first opportunity, go through everyone’s hair with them sitting by a window or outside. It has to be daylight, and it’s easiest in sunlight. You need to “nit pick.” Yes, that’s where that expression comes from. You actually have to look at every single hair on everyone’s head in the daylight. The nits just don’t show up in artificial light. This takes a lot of time. If you can cut anyone’s hair, it will help. If you have boys, this would be the time to take advantage of the shaved head look or at least buzz cuts. You’re looking for tiny eggs not much wider than a strand of hair. You need to find pictures of them to see what you’re looking for. They’re sort of teardrop shaped and shine like a pearl in the light. I forget the color – maybe yellowish or grayish. They are attached to strands of hair usually just a quarter inch to an inch from the scalp, usually around the crown of the head or nape. They have to be scraped off of the hair, and I found that nit combs don’t work very well. I usually ended up scraping them off with my fingernail or pulling out the whole hair. THEN, you must contain the nits in a baggie. Do NOT let them fall on the floor. They can hatch anywhere. You usually won’t see the louse itself, although my friend did find one on her kid. It’s easier to find the actual lice in blonde hair. I think it’s easier to find the nits in dark hair. Even if you only find one nit in someone’s hair, it means they are to some degree infested. (We actually had to go through a friend’s hair who was visiting when we discovered this problem.) You should do this every day, because sometimes you miss nits. And see, even though the shampoo kills the lice, it doesn’t necessarily kill the nits. This is the tricky part, which leads me to number 6. 6. You have to shampoo everyone’s hair with the stuff AGAIN 10 days later, I think it is, because that’s when any remaining nits will be hatching. PEOPLE SKIP THIS STEP, BECAUSE THEY ASSUME THEY’RE OUT OF THE WOODS. SOON THEY FIND, LIKE, 50 NITS IN THEIR KIDS’ HAIR, AND THEY’RE REALLY IN TROUBLE! Because, you see, if just one nit is allowed to live, it hatches, and multiplies like crazy. Lice are constant breeders, and they’re tough survivors. 7. Also, KEEP YOUR KIDS HOME UNTIL YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE ALL LICE AND NITS ARE GONE FROM YOUR FAMILY AND FROM THEIR ENTIRE SCHOOL. I was very stubborn about that, especially since my daughter had hair down to her butt. When I heard some kids at school had lice, I kept her home for a month, because I was still hearing reports of lice at school, even though the teachers and director were mad at me for not sending her. They did head checks every day. Parents volunteered. (Everybody was wearing shower caps. This one poor teacher had to wash her hair in Rid so many times, that her doctor finally forbade her to do it again for fear she wouldn’t be able to bear children!) STILL, when I finally sent my daughter, they checked her head and found one nit and sent her home. She must have gotten it from the kid across the street who went to a different school! (Sometimes there are epidemics.) There’s nothing worse than going through all this and think everything’s handled only to have to do it all over again a week or two later. So be overly cautious. It’s easy to mistake little white flakes in the hair from dry scalp for nits. But when you truly see a nit, there’s no question. Plus, it’s stuck to the hair, whereas flakes just flick off. OK, that’s all I remember. Educate yourself and members of your family and, if need be, friends, neighbors, or school staff. Good luck! May this be your only lice adventure! Carole herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of KimFriday, July 14, 2006 12:59 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Help-Emergency-Lice Please this is urgent. Head lice, need I say more. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Thanks guys. This helps. If it is alright I will foward this to the person who gave it to us. Kim - Dr. Ian Shillington herbal remedies Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:10 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Help-Emergency-Lice Good advice Carol. If I may piggy back on your answer, I'd recommend sleeping with Castor Oil rubbed into the scalp and a shower cap to kill the critters and the eggs. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Carole Eddington herbal remedies Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:04 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Help-Emergency-Lice Kim, I have had too much experience with this. Now, I’m not one to worry and fuss about things or make too big a deal of things. But in the case of head lice, I became stubbornly thorough out of necessity. I have found that most people, including some school staff, are way too lax. Lice is a bit of a nightmare, but you WILL be through it in a couple weeks, and then your life will return to normal. I say it’s nightmarish because of the fact that you’re fighting something so minute, that it’s a bit of a challenge to stay cheerful. My family has been through it twice, and we became experts on handling it. I had a number of friends and relatives who had to deal with it. I warned them of everything they needed to do. They each thought I was being too dramatic and so didn’t do all the steps. One for one, they later called saying, “You were right!” when it had gone out of control. I have a bunch of literature here at home that I’ve lent to people when I could see them in person. This all happened many years ago, and now that we have the Internet, I’m sure there’s TONS of data to be found easily. I suggest reading a number of things to not only learn the steps to take but also to understand lice (a lovely subject) so you can fight them properly. Things you need to do immediately: 1. Notify anyone who has been in contact with anyone in your family recently. This includes calling your children’s school. Then keep to yourselves. Stay home until this is handled, and don’t be hugging each other. If you have to go to the store, wear something that contains your head and hair. (Don’t be embarrassed. Lice infestation has nothing to do with personal cleanliness, social class, etc.) 2. Wash everyone’s hair in anti-lice shampoo – even those whom you haven’t found any lice or nits (louse eggs) on. (Years ago, we had to use Rid, which is very toxic, but it worked. I’m not at all up on what they have today, and I’ll bet there’s some natural way to treat this.) 3. Gather up all combs and brushes, sheets and pillowcases (even clean ones,) coats, hats, towels, and any clothes recently worn by anyone, even if clean, and wash them in HOT water and dry them in the HOTTEST dryer. You can take things like stuffed animals, decorative pillows, or anything you don’t need for awhile and put them in plastic bags and stick them in the garage for a month instead of washing them. (Wait – maybe that just works if it’s cold outside – you’ll have to research.) 4. Thoroughly vacuum your house, including the furniture and mattresses. (Yeah, I know – this is not fun!) 5. Now comes the really fun part. At the first opportunity, go through everyone’s hair with them sitting by a window or outside. It has to be daylight, and it’s easiest in sunlight. You need to “nit pick.” Yes, that’s where that expression comes from. You actually have to look at every single hair on everyone’s head in the daylight. The nits just don’t show up in artificial light. This takes a lot of time. If you can cut anyone’s hair, it will help. If you have boys, this would be the time to take advantage of the shaved head look or at least buzz cuts. You’re looking for tiny eggs not much wider than a strand of hair. You need to find pictures of them to see what you’re looking for. They’re sort of teardrop shaped and shine like a pearl in the light. I forget the color – maybe yellowish or grayish. They are attached to strands of hair usually just a quarter inch to an inch from the scalp, usually around the crown of the head or nape. They have to be scraped off of the hair, and I found that nit combs don’t work very well. I usually ended up scraping them off with my fingernail or pulling out the whole hair. THEN, you must contain the nits in a baggie. Do NOT let them fall on the floor. They can hatch anywhere. You usually won’t see the louse itself, although my friend did find one on her kid. It’s easier to find the actual lice in blonde hair. I think it’s easier to find the nits in dark hair. Even if you only find one nit in someone’s hair, it means they are to some degree infested. (We actually had to go through a friend’s hair who was visiting when we discovered this problem.) You should do this every day, because sometimes you miss nits. And see, even though the shampoo kills the lice, it doesn’t necessarily kill the nits. This is the tricky part, which leads me to number 6. 6. You have to shampoo everyone’s hair with the stuff AGAIN 10 days later, I think it is, because that’s when any remaining nits will be hatching. PEOPLE SKIP THIS STEP, BECAUSE THEY ASSUME THEY’RE OUT OF THE WOODS. SOON THEY FIND, LIKE, 50 NITS IN THEIR KIDS’ HAIR, AND THEY’RE REALLY IN TROUBLE! Because, you see, if just one nit is allowed to live, it hatches, and multiplies like crazy. Lice are constant breeders, and they’re tough survivors. 7. Also, KEEP YOUR KIDS HOME UNTIL YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE ALL LICE AND NITS ARE GONE FROM YOUR FAMILY AND FROM THEIR ENTIRE SCHOOL. I was very stubborn about that, especially since my daughter had hair down to her butt. When I heard some kids at school had lice, I kept her home for a month, because I was still hearing reports of lice at school, even though the teachers and director were mad at me for not sending her. They did head checks every day. Parents volunteered. (Everybody was wearing shower caps. This one poor teacher had to wash her hair in Rid so many times, that her doctor finally forbade her to do it again for fear she wouldn’t be able to bear children!) STILL, when I finally sent my daughter, they checked her head and found one nit and sent her home. She must have gotten it from the kid across the street who went to a different school! (Sometimes there are epidemics.) There’s nothing worse than going through all this and think everything’s handled only to have to do it all over again a week or two later. So be overly cautious. It’s easy to mistake little white flakes in the hair from dry scalp for nits. But when you truly see a nit, there’s no question. Plus, it’s stuck to the hair, whereas flakes just flick off. OK, that’s all I remember. Educate yourself and members of your family and, if need be, friends, neighbors, or school staff. Good luck! May this be your only lice adventure! Carole herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of KimFriday, July 14, 2006 12:59 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Help-Emergency-Lice Please this is urgent. Head lice, need I say more. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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