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**The Citizens Have Won**, Says Dr Marc Girard: Victory in Swine Flu

Information War Made Possible By Internet

Friday, 08 January 2010 12:08

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French doctor and author of a book on the swine flu scam, Marc Girard, has

declared victory in the information battle in Europe surrounding the swine

flu vaccine following the decision by the French government to cancel 50

million doses and abandon the vaccine centers under intense political

pressure.

 

 

Some other key turning points in the campaign were:

 

-- *the decision by the German army in September to refuse to take the

toxic Baxter Celvapan jab forcing Baxter to drop mercury and adjuvants at the

last moment when seeking EU approval for its vaccine and so triggering a

storm of protest inside Germany about the two classes of vaccines with and

without adjuvants.

 

-- *protests by Belgium citizens groups stopping a parliamentary law

allowing forced vaccination to go through.

 

-- *the announcement by the Polish Health Minister and family doctor Ewa

Kopacz that she would order the inadequately tested jab for Poland

 

-- *the legal action by Marc Vercoutere and Christian Cotton that forced

French Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot to start to account, through her

lawyer, in a Paris court on January 4th for the swine flu campaign

irregularities.

 

 

" In the flu affair, by the sole force of the internet and an unprecedented

majority, the citizens have won: against the lobbies supported by the

large media, and in spite of the objective collusion of all the politicans -

including those who are today calling for a commission of inquiry. The time

has already come to think about the time after the flu and to reflect on the

factors that allowed such a scandal possible. "

 

 

" Dans l'affaire de la grippe, par la seule force d'internet et à une

majorité sans précédent, les citoyens ont gagné : contre les lobbies

soutenus

par tous les grands médias, et malgré la collusion objective de tous les

politiques - incluant ceux qui réclament aujourd'hui une commission

d'enquête.

Il est déjà temps de penser l'après-grippe et de réfléchir aux facteurs

qui

ont rendu possible un tel scandale. Réalisée dans des conditions

techniques précaires imposées par une situation que tout le monde connaît, la

vidéo

qui suit vise à susciter une réflexion citoyenne sur la question centrale

des conflits d'intérêts. _http://www.rolandsimion.org/spip.php?article108_

(http://www.rolandsimion.org/spip.php?article108) Bonne écoute - bonne

réflexion. Marc Girard "

 

 

However, while we, in Europe, have beyond a doubt achieved a fantastic

victory, much remains to be done to stop the swine flu jabs being sent to

developing countries, among other things.

 

 

Also, we need to start legal actions and insist on parliamentary inquries

to identify those responsible for this scam.

 

 

Since this is the same international corporate crime syndicate organised

around the Bilderbergs that is also responsible for Codex Alimentatarius,

GMO foods, poisoning us through water and other means, as well as for the

financial crisis and instigating numerous false flag terrorist attacks and

wars (Afghanistan, Iraq and now Yemen), there is a unique opportunity to deal

with a multitude of problems by systematically dismantling the power

structure of this group.

 

 

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Interview with Wolfgang Wodarg in L'Humanite in English Translation

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Swine flu: " They organized the panic "

 

 

New Development: The German President of the Health Committee of the

Council of Europe, Wolfgang Wodarg, is issuing accusations against the

pharmaceutical lobbies and the governments. He has intitiated the start of an

investigation by that body concerning the role played by the pharmaceutical in

the campaign of panic about the virus.

 

 

A straight forward interview.

 

 

Ex-member of the SPD, Wolfgang Wodarg is a doctor and epidemiologist. His

request for a commission of inquiry into the role of pharmaceutical

companies in the management of swine flu outbreak by WHO and the nation states

was

granted unanimously by the members of the Health Committee of the Council

of Europe…

 

 

What made you suspicious about the influence of pharmaceutical companies

had on the decisions being taken in respect of swine flu?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

We are facing a major failure of national institutions responsible for

warning about risks and responding in case a pandemic occurs. In April when

the first alarm came from Mexico I was very surprised at the figures

furnished by the World Health Organization (WHO) to justify the declaration of a

pandemic. I was immediately suspicious: the numbers were very low and the

alarm level very high. There were not even in a thousand patients when there

was already talk of the pandemic of the century. And the alert was decreed

extreme based on the fact that the virus was new. But the characteristic of

influenza disease is to develop very quickly with viruses which take on new

forms each time, by dwelling in new hosts, animal, human etc.

 

 

There was nothing new in itself to that. Each year a new virus of this

" flu " type appears. In reality there was no reason to sound the alarm at this

level. This was only possible because in early May the WHO changed its

definition of a pandemic. Before that date there had to be not only a disease

which had broke out in several countries at once but also one that had very

serious consequences with the number of deaths above the usual average. This

aspect was removed from the new definition, to retain the rate of spread of

disease as the only criteria. And they claimed that the virus was

dangerous because people had not been able to develop immunity against it.

Which

was false for this virus. Because it was observed that people aged over 60

years already had antibodies. That is to say they had already been in contact

with similar viruses. That is why also there are virtually no people aged

over 60 who have developed the disease. Yet those were the people who were

recommended to be vaccinated quickly.

 

 

Among the things that aroused my suspicions there was therefore on one

side this determination to sound the alarm. And on the other side, some

curious facts. Such as, for example, the recommendation by WHO to carry out two

injections for vaccines. That had never been done before. There was no

scientific justification for this. There was also the recommendation to use

only

special patented vaccines. There was however no reason for not adding, as

it is done every year, specific antiviral particles of this new H1N1 virus,

" completing " the vaccine used for seasonal influenza. This was not done

because they preferred to use patented vaccine materials that major

laboratories had designed and manufactured to be ready in case of a pandemic

developing. And by proceeding in this way they did not hesitate to endanger the

persons vaccinated.

 

 

What danger?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

To provide products rapidly, adjuvants were used in some vaccines, whose

effects have not been adequately tested. In other words, they wanted

absolutely to use these new patented products instead of developing vaccines

according to traditional methods of production which are much simpler, more

reliable and less costly. There was no medical reason for this. It was only for

marketing purposes.

 

 

How could anyone justify that?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

To understand we must return to the episode of avian influenza from 2005

to 2006. It was then that new international plans were defined for dealing

with a pandemic alarm. These plans were officially developed to ensure rapid

manufacturing of vaccines in case of an alert. This led to negotiations

between pharmaceutical companies and governments. On the one hand the labs

committed themselves to keep ready to develop the preparations, on the other

hand, states assured them they would buy them all. After this strange deal

the pharmaceutical industry took no economic risk by engaging in new

fabrications. And it was sure to touch the jack pot in the case of a pandemic

outbreak.

 

 

Do you disagree with the diagnoses and even the potential severity of

influenza A?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Yes, it’s just a normal kind of flu. It does not cause a tenth of deaths

caused by the classic seasonal flu. All that mattered and that led to the

great campaign of panic which we have seen was that it was a golden

opportunity for representatives from labs who knew they would hit the jackpot in

the

case of a pandemic being declared.

 

 

Those are very serious accusations you're making. How was such a process

made possible within the WHO?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

A group of people in the WHO is associated very closely with the

pharmaceutical industry.

 

 

Will the investigation by the Council of Europe also work in this

direction?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

We want to clarify everything that brought about this massive operation of

disinformation. We want to know who made decisions, on the basis of what

evidence and precisely how the influence of the pharmaceutical industry came

to bear on the decision-making. And the time has come at last for us to

make demands on governments. The purpose of the inquiry is so that there are

no more false alarms of this type in the future. So that the people may rely

on the analysis and the expertise of national and international public

institutions. The latter are now discredited, because millions of people have

been vaccinated with products with inherent possible health risks. This was

not necessary. It has also led to a considerable mismanagement of public

money.

 

 

Do you have any concrete figures on the extent of this mismanagement?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

In Germany it comes to 700 million euros. But it is very difficult to know

the exact figures because we are talking on one side about vaccines resold

to foreign countries and most firms do not communicate due to the

principle of respect for " business secret " regarding the amounts in contracts

concluded with States and any indemnification clauses contained therein.

 

 

Will the work of " lobbying " by pharma companies on the National Institutes

of Health also be dealt with by the investigation of the Council of

Europe?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Yes we will examine the attitude of institutions like the Robert Koch

Institute in Germany or Pasteur in France who should in fact have advised their

governments from a critical standpoint. In some countries certain

institutions have done so. In Finland and Poland, for example, critical voices

were

raised to say: " we do not need that. "

 

 

Has the tremendous global operation of disinformation also been possible

because the pharmaceutical industry had " representatives " even within the

governments of the most powerful countries?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

As regards the ministries, that seems to me to be obvious. I can not

explain how specialists, very smart people who know the problems of the

influenza disease by heart, did not notice what was happening.

 

 

So what happened?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Without going as far as saying direct corruption, which I am certain does

exist, there were many ways for labs to exercise their influence over

decisions. A very concrete example, is how Klaus Stöhr, who was the head of

the

epidemiological department of the WHO at the time of bird flu, and who

therefore prepared the plans to cope with a pandemic that I mentioned above, in

the meantime had become a top executive of the company Novartis. And

similar links between Glaxo and Baxter, etc. and influential members of the

WHO.

These large firms have " their people " in the cogs and then they pull

strings so that the right policy decisions are taken. That is to say, the ones

that will allow them to pump as much money from taxpayers.

 

 

But if your survey succeeds, will it not be a support for citizens to

insist their governments demand accountability from these large groups?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Yes, you're right, this is one of the major issues related to this

investigation. States could indeed take advantage of this to contest contracts

drawn up in, let us say, improper conditions. If it can be shown that it was

under the influence of firms that the process was initiated then they will

have to be push to ask for reimbursement. But that's just the financial

side, there is also the human side, persons who were vaccinated with products

that were inadequately tested.

 

 

So what kind of risk have these healthy people unknowingly taken by

getting vaccinated?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Again, the vaccines were developed too quickly, some adjuvants were

insufficiently tested. But there is worse to come. The vaccine developed by

Novartis was produced in a bioreactor from cancerous cells. A technique that

had

never been used until now.

 

 

Why, I'm obviously not an expert, but how can one claim to make a vaccine

from diseased cells?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Normally one uses chicken eggs on which viruses are grown. We need in fact

to work on living cells. Because viruses can only multiply in this way and

so do, by definition, the virus preparations that go with it. But this

process has a big flaw, it is slow and it takes a lot of eggs. And it is long

and complex technically. Another potentially excellent technique is to grow

the virus in living cells in bioreactors. This requires cells which grow

and divide very quickly. It's a bit like the method used to culture yogurt,

which is also produced in a bio-reactor. but in this context the cell was so

upset in its environment and its growth that it grows like a cancer cell.

And it is on these rapidly multiplying cells that they grow the virus. But

to manufacture the vaccine the virus must be re-extracted from these cells

on which they were implanted. And it can therefore happen that during the

manufacturing process of the vaccine, residue of cancerous cells remain in

the preparation. In the same way as it happens in conventional manufacturing

with eggs. Thus we know that in the case of a classic influenza

vaccination, side effects can occur in people who are allergic to egg albumin

found

in egg white. It can not be excluded that proteins, remains of a cancer cell

present in a vaccine produced by bio-reactor, may generate a tumour on the

person vaccinated. According to a true principle of precaution, before

such a product is allowed on the market, there should therefore be 100%

certainty that such effects are actually excluded.

 

 

And wasn’t this done?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

It was not. The EMEA (European Medicines Agency), an institution under the

responsibility of the European Commissioner for Economic Affairs, based in

London, which gives permission to release vaccines on the market in

Europe, gave the green light for commercializing this product arguing, namely,

that this mode of manufacture was not a " significant " risk. This was very

differently appreciated by many experts here in Germany and by an independent

drug institution, which instead sounded the alert and voiced their

objections. I took these warnings seriously. I studied the case and intervened

in

the context of the Bundestag health committee of which I was a member so that

the vaccine would not be used in Germany. I made it known that I was

certainly not opposed to the development of vaccines with this technique. But

first it had to have a total guarantee of innocuousness. The product has

therefore not been used in Germany where the government terminated the contract

with Novartis.

 

 

What is the name of this vaccine?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Obta flu.

 

 

But that means that in other European countries like France the product

can be marketed without any problem?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Yes, it obtained permission from EMEA and can be used anywhere in the EU.

 

 

What alternative do you intend to propose so that further scandals of this

type are avoided?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

The WHO should be more transparent, so we know clearly who decides and

what type of relationship exists between participants in the organization. It

should also be flanked by at least one elected chamber, which should be

able to react very critically and where everyone can express themselves. This

enhanced public scrutiny is essential.

 

 

Isn’t the question of another system capable of handling a matter which is

in fact a common good for citizens across the planet coming to the

surface?

 

Wolfgang Wodarg.

Can we go on allowing the production of vaccines and the conduct of these

productions to organizations whose goal is to win as much money as

possible? Or is the production of vaccines not something that States must

absolutely monitor and implement themselves? That's why I think we should

abandon

the system of patents on vaccines. That is to say, the possibility of

monopolization of vaccine production by a large group. For this option requires

that we sacrifice thousands of lives, simply in the name of respect for these

monopoly rights. You're right, that particular claim has become evident for

me.

 

 

 

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