Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 I attended a seminar by Jake Fratkin a few years back. During the seminar he mentioned that he recommends that all of his patients follow the " Paleo Diet " . Since then, I have been recommending it to my patients, as well as family and friends, including those living in other cities. I have had so much success (100%) with the " Paleo Diet " that when people call my clinic with the western diagnosis of fibromyalgia I now take their name and phone number and recommend that they try the " Paleo Diet " for one month before coming to see me. Guess what? When I phone them after one month to check their results, they report that their Fibromyalgia symptoms are completely gone. They are so delighted that their fibromyalgia is gone and that I cared enough to telephone them back that they are " eager " to schedule an acupuncture session for some other issue that they need help with. Here is the website link: http://www.thepaleodiet.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I would agree, Kath. I would also add that many also present with stomach and heart yin xi. Yehuda " " wrote: i'ld say from a TCM point of view, all of the fibro patients i've seen present sp qi xu + damp. often + liv overacting on sp, and often add'tl patterns (kid yin/yang xu). k On 8/2/07, anne.crowley <anne.crowley wrote: > > Don't Torpedo me, but from a 5E perspective I see a lot of earth in > these patients. Even if I don't classify them as an Earth Constitutional > type, I see dampness in the muscles, and of course I treat the dampness. > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > < <%40>> > > HI Avishay, > > > > I can't answer your question about e-stim, but I do have a number of > " favorite " > > points I use with fibromyalgia patients. Having fibromyalgia myself, I > feel I > > have a good sense of what works and what doesn't. I just haven't used > e-stim, > > so I can't comment on it. > > > > The points I use regularly are Liv-3, LI-4, ST-36, and the NADA points > in the > > ear: shenmen, sympathetic, liver, lung, and kidney. Depending on what > else is > > going on, I also commonly add LI-11, LI-10, PC-6, GB-41, SP-6 and KI-3, > with > > other points as necessary. I keep it simple with 10-15 minutes of > retention, > > and get good results such as overall reduction in pain, increased > energy, > > improved sleep and lessened anxiety. > > > > Good luck with your study. I'd love to see the results. > > > > > > > > avishay_yamin <avishay_yamin <avishay_yamin%40>> > wrote: Hi evrybody > > > > my question is about the use of electro acupuncture an FMS paitients. > > > > i am going to make a research about the influence of acupuncture on > > fibromyalgia patients in a hospital in israel. untill today i have > > never used electro acupuncture on FMS paitients since a big part of > > them are very tierd as well and i thought regular acupuncture > > without electro should be enough. > > > > on the few reserches that have been done untill today, the best > > results was achived by using electro acupuncture and i wanted to ask > > you if you dont think that electro can make these patients even more > > tierd? > > > > another thing i wanted to ask about electro acu. and FMS is on which > > points do you put the electro wires on? do you put it on tender > > points or do you put it on points that works in a more systemic way > > such as: LIV 3 to spread QI stagnation or SP9 to eliminate dampness > > > > another question is about FMS and Abdominal acupuncture. to those of > > you who are practecing abdominal acupuncture and have used on FMS > > paitients, what is your results? > > > > thanks > > avishay > > > > > > > > Subscribe to the fee online journal for TCM at Times > > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, > > http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 > > > > > > and > adjust > > accordingly. > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the > group > > requires prior permission from the author. > > > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if > absolutely > > necessary. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Dear Renee and anyone interested in Fibromyalgia. Recently we had a woman who had been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia do our Total Body Cleanse for the first time. She reported after finishing the 21 day cleanse that over 80 percent of her symptoms had disappeared. Our approach here at Organic Solutions is to have people do a Total Body Cleanse to cleanse the Bowels, the Liver and the Kidneys so that the body can achieve overall, optimum health. Over the years, we have seen many miracles as people have done cleanses and the body was then in a position to fix itself. A clean Liver that is clean and working as it was intended is important as it helps the body cleanse, rebuild and function properly. If anyone out there is reading this and has not yet requested Doc's free CD, let us know and we will send one out to you. On this free CD, Doc fully explains the Total Body Cleanse along with many other interesting health related issues. Some people have told us they believe that Fibromyalgia is a catch-all for symptoms that the MD's really can't pin down or diagnose easily. My daughter-in-laws sister had various symptoms and was sent from one doctor to another as no MD was apparently able to tell her what was causing her problems. Finally a doctor told her she had Fibromyalgia and prescribed a anti-depressant, psychiatric drug which she took not knowing what it was. When she felt awful, was throwing up, bedridden and couldn't go to work, she researched the drug to find out it was an anti-depressant. She confronted her doctor who didn't know it was an anti-depressant and said he should not have prescribed it. Anyway, you can all see that it is easy to get on a merry-go-round and all that is actually happening is the treating of symptoms. Why not get to the cause and discover what is creating the problem and handle that? The body is very able to take excellent care of itself when given the proper tools to do so. We believe that organic, whole foods and nutritional supplements like our Total Nutrition give the body the things it needs to create health. In addition, it is our belief that the body is smarter than any practitioner and as I said before give it the proper tools and it will fix itself. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Valorie Hi there...I'm new to the Group and have a question. I've recently tried Cat's Claw to help releive some of the symptoms of Fibromyalgia. So far so good! I have less pain in my legs. I was wondering if anybody knows of any other Herbs I could experiment with? Willing to try just about anything! ( I'm currently not taking any medication ) Herbs are pretty new to me...I'm taking this route as Conventional Medicine has failed. I know this is a tall order...but if you have any suggestions...Let me know. Renee CAPITAL CITY DUCT CLEANING ___________ Click for free information and quotes for interest only loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Hi Kimberly, I believe that toxicity, organs that are not functioning properly, poor nutrition and diet and lack of exercise, sun fresh air and purified water are the major causes of all diseases including Fibro and CFS. You are not alone having a toxic Liver. This is very common and a major problem and contributes to poor health in a big way. Your Naturopath is correct in addressing your Liver. Detox is necessary and can make one feel bad for awhile. With our program we do our best to control the detox symptoms by having people do a full 2-part bowel cleanse before doing a Liver and Kidney cleanse. We also recommend herbs to aid in helping people not get sick from the detox and keep the bowels moving frequently so that toxins trying to leave the body get out fast rather than being held in the intestines and reabsorbed making one ill. Gaining optimum health is a process and an adventure. If you have not requested Doc's free CD, let us know and we'll send it out to you. I think it will answer some questions. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Valorie Kimberly Smith wrote: > Doc, in your opinion, what do you think causes Fibromyalgia? I am > being treated for CFS and Fibro with a toxic liver right now by my > naturopath. It helped for a bit, but the detox symptoms are bad > (underarm pain, itching all over, cracked feet and hands), and my other > symptoms came back after week three. > > Kim > http://www.blessedfarm.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Dear Terry, I am from Arkansas too. I have fibromyalgia (also arthritis). This is what I take: Fish,Flax & Borage Oil caps, 2000mg garlic gel caps and " Nutrajoint with MSM " . These were all bought at my local walmart. When the pain gets really bad I take an Epsom Salt bath. I also use a rub from Northstar called Soothanol 2 (I think it has DMSO in it) but it is expensive. This helps but as yet I have not found anything that gets rid of it. (Also stay away from sugar. Hope you find some help. dak , " Terasa " <walmartheifer44 wrote: > > I would like to hear from other people who have fibomyalgia, their > symptoms and what they are using for treatment.I Have had it > undiagnosed for years and 2years ago after back surgery and not > recovering like i should I have been diagnosed. I have been taking a > product called msm and it does help with my enery level and irratable > bowl and mind function. I would just like to hear what other people are > taking and if it helps, I do not want to have to take pain meds. or > muscle relaxers!your input on this topic is greatly appreciated as > their is no support goup that i can find here in arkansas. > Sincerely,Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Doctor Wong on his website has some podcasts that mention systemic enzymes being beneficial to people suffereng with FMS........... I am NOT selling anything, just thought you and other sufferers may be interested in what his point of view is. So far there is NO CURE for FMS/CFS/ME so anything that helps the individual deal with their particular symptoms on an hour by hour, day by day way is worth reading about I reckon. Good Luck in finding what works for you. Clare in T Fibromyalgia and its Ischemic Pain by Dr. William Wong To most physicians the pain of Fibromyalgia Syndrome is a mystery. Its unrelenting and debilitating pain is often relegated to being of psychosomatic origin ...www.systemicenzymetherapy.com/TherapeuticApplications/Fibromyalgia.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages LEC Natural Healing Solutions | Articles by Dr. William Wong Dr. Wong has more than 23 years of professional experience in natural health ... the last 12 devoted almost exclusively to chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, ...www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Articles/Wong - 35k - Cached - Similar pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 ---as you have shared info dak here is some for you Tackling fibromyalgia This is an article touching upon some of the most powerful healing principles we know about . I do quite a bit of research into various different ailments over many years and will share this info with you and I also practice spiritual healing . The only promise being made quite clear here is that these things mentioned- can be a major influence in treating the ailment. A total cure might very well center around a thing called karma/ forgiveness. As well as that we have our own web site where it is possible to research quite a few healing principles and therapies. The therapies and principles have been in use for thousands of years; a lot emerged from ancient Egypt. We have many testimonies and some research papers and can also point you to links to other research studies indicating some remark able results. It is called the Orion project. We make the point quite clear that we sell nothing health related or make any charge for the healing, which comes through. We actively share information, much of which has been suppressed or not actively promoted. We only promote good health this is not spam neither are we promoting products , we leave it up to u to evaluate the material we present we have tried this and can vouch for some excellent results. WE do not advertise anything There are quite a few points to consider one of which is why if this is so good as you say why are we not being told about it. Why indeed? Well I am going to tell you about something that maybe less than 1% of the population even understand. The answer –vested interest and quite a bit of apathy and scientific arrogance. There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come from to test and approve treatments? By far the biggest source is the drug companies. So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves to know more –right, you could not be more wrong. By and large only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of a profit, will even get examined. Because they are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people. So many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get approved and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local doctor or hospital. Despite The fact that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations, needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life. This will apply to any country where most research is being done by drug companies – they would probably laugh in your face if you went there with a promising therapy which was so cheap anyone could get it. Do you really think they would invest thousands of pounds in any therapy which did not show the promise of good profit. Your local G.P/ doctor is not a researcher, in the main he is told what to prescribe he does not even have the time often to look at research. In fact some G.P .s doctors have had action taken against them for prescribing supplements. At this minute 2004 approx 5000 Beds are being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like a minor infringement. That is a fact So Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will probably only get recommended drugs. Primarily because of deliberate government policy not to fund research into other therapies. Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy, Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices, Electrical Frequency devices. Has he ever mentioned the power of nutrition what you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in etc. Has he ever recommended a detox .. All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if not millions of testimonials. As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed, that is Until the day comes when most of the research and testing is done by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear agenda of being objective. Acting for the people. Printing and revealing all results good and bad. What also clouds the issue further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is not to say that there isn't something more natural better. The apathy and scientific arrogance we will leave to another time. Moving on to a more positive note .One of the biggest problems we see when giving this material is that a lot of people do not have good evaluation skills. They rely on a white coat, a hospital building, the sound of a persons voice to sway their thinking into accepting treatments when they are ill. Like lambs they are taken down paths some of which will lead them into untold suffering . Of course this is what some of these drug companies rely on the vast sums of money which can be generated are enormous. So as the wise among you will see a little investment in time over your health could be a very wise move indeed. Well we move now along to our little protocol the principles of which will apply to many other health problems as well. EDGAR CAYCE'S PERSPECTIVE ON FIBROMYALGIA During Edgar Cayce's era it was commonly called muscular rheumatism. Several individuals with this diagnosis received readings on their condition. OVERVIEW OF THERAPEUTIC REGIME The treatments recommended in the Cayce readings on fibromyalgia are mainly directed toward improving the digestive, circulatory, nervous, and eliminating systems. Diet, moderate exercise, a mild form of energy medicine (Radial Appliance), spinal manipulations and general massage, colon irrigation, and castor oil packs are therapies intended to improve these vital systemic functions. As was typical of Cayce's holistic approach, the mental and spiritual aspects of therapy were emphasized. Here are the basic therapies recommended for the treatment of fibromyalgia based on the Cayce information on this disorder: All people are advised to get The Edgar Cayce Handbook for Health through Drugless therapy by Hugh Lynn Cayce Harold Reilly and Ruth Hagy Brod ISBN 0-02-601960-4 Harold reillys 43 years of experience of working with the research the results he, got the treatments he gave- a very valuable book These are the principles we can only try to empasise the importance of every one of them to your health 1. INTERNAL CLEANSING: Hydrotherapy includes drinking six to eight glasses of pure water daily, colonic irrigations (preferably) or enemas, and a cleansing diet of fresh fruits and vegetables. Sometimes even a sweat bath was recommended 2.Castor oil packs across the abdomen are recommended to improve eliminations through the liver and colon. Mild laxatives may be helpful if constipation is a problem. Fume baths assist with elimination of toxins through the skin. 3.MANUAL THERAPY (SPINAL MANIPULATION AND MASSAGE): Osteopathic or chiropractic treatment is recommended to relieve any pressures that may be hindering circulation and decreasing eliminations. This is vital , your spine and its nerve pathways can have an enormous influence on how you feel and the functioning of your body. The Cayce readings contain many very complimentary comments about osteopathy of that day, such as: " There is no form of physical mechanotherapy so near in accord with nature's measures as correctly given osteopathic adjustments. " 4. Gentle massage is suggested to relax the body and improve circulation and eliminations. Firstly find someone to massage your back and legs at least 3 times a week Use peanut oil or a mix of 50-50 olive and peanut oil. Paying particular attention to the spine and choose someone who is sympathy with your condition. It is by no mere chance that massage has been around for thousands of years .It is effective speeds up the toxic removal process, enables blood to flow to many more capillaries and can be a major factor in your well being. We advocate massage on a weekly basis as a normal healthy practice. Here are some reported benefits of massage: Research in massage therapy has been ongoing for more than 120 years. Here are some reported benefits of massage: Preliminary results suggested cancer patients had less pain and anxiety after receiving therapeutic massage at the James Cancer Hospital and Research Institute in Columbus, Ohio. Women who had experienced the recent death of a child were less depressed after receiving therapeutic massage, according to preliminary results of a study at the University of South Carolina Medical school students at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey-New Jersey Medical School who were massaged before an exam showed a significant decrease in anxiety and respiratory rates. as well as a significant increase in white blood cells and natural killer cell activity, suggesting a benefit to the immune system Studies funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have found massage beneficial in improving weight gain in HIV-exposed infants and facilitating recovery in patients who underwent abdominal surgery. At the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch Research Institute, researchers have found that massage is helpful in decreasing blood pressure in people with hypertension, alleviating pain in migraine sufferers and improving alertness and performance in office workers. An increasing number of research studies show massage reduces heart rate, lowers blood pressure, increases blood circulation and lymph flow, relaxes muscles, improves range of motion, and increases endorphins (enhancing medical treatment). Although therapeutic massage does not increase muscle strength, it can stimulate weak, inactive muscles and, thus, partially compensate for the lack of exercise and inactivity resulting from illness or injury. It also can hasten and lead to a more complete recovery from exercise or injury. Research has verified that: Office workers massaged regularly were more alert, performed better and were less stressed than those who weren't massaged. Massage therapy decreased the effects of anxiety, tension, depression, pain, and itching in burn patients. Abdominal surgery patients recovered more quickly after massage. Premature infants who were massaged gained more weight and fared better than those who weren't. Autistic children showed less erratic behavior after massage therapy. According AMTA, massage helps both physically and mentally. " Often times people are stressed in our culture. Stress-related disorders make up between 80-and-90 percent of the ailments that bring people to family practice physicians. What they require is someone to listen, someone to touch them, someone to care. That does not exist in modern medicine. One of the complaints heard frequently is that physicians don't touch their patients any more. Touch just isn't there. Years ago massage was a big part of nursing. There was so much care, so much touch, so much goodness conveyed through massage. Now nurses for the most part are as busy as physicians. They're writing charts, dealing with insurance notes, they're doing procedures and often there is no room for massage any more. I believe massage therapy is absolutely key in the healing process not only in the hospital environment but because it relieves stress, it is obviously at the foundation in the healing process any time and anywhere. " Joan Borysenko - Massage Journal Interview, Fall 1999 Physical Benefits of Therapeutic Massage Massage also provides another therapeutic component largely absent in today's world: tactile stimulation, or, more simply, touch. In 1986, the Touch Research Institute at the University of Miami published groundbreaking research on the effects of massage on premature babies. The preterm babies who received massage therapy showed 47% greater weight gain and six-day shorter hospital stays than the infants who were not receiving massage. But is this study evidence of what loving touch can do spiritually, or rather what massage can do on a physiological level? Regardless, babies are not the only benefactors Helps relieve stress and aids relaxation Helps relieve muscle tension and stiffness. Alleviates discomfort during pregnancy Fosters faster healing of strained muscles and sprained ligaments; reduces pain and swelling; reduces formation of excessive scar tissue. Reduces muscle spasms. Provides greater joint flexibility and range of motion. Enhances athletic performance; Treats injuries caused during sport or work. Promotes deeper and easier breathing Improves circulation of blood and movement of lymph fluids. Reduces blood pressure. Helps relieve tension-related headaches and effects of eye-strain. Enhances the health and nourishment of skin Improves posture. Strengthens the immune system. Treats musculoskeletal problems. Rehabilitation post operative Rehabilitation after injury. (Source: AMTA Mental Benefits of Massage Therapy Fosters peace of mind Promotes a relaxed state of mental alertness. Helps relieve mental stress Improves ability to monitor stress signals and respond appropriately. Enhances capacity for calm thinking and creativity Emotional Benefits. Satisfies needs for caring nurturing touch Fosters a feeling of well being. Reduces levels of anxiety Creates body awareness Increases awareness of mind-body connection. 5. DIET: The Basic Cayce Diet is intended to improve assimilation and elimination. The diet focuses heavily on keeping a proper alkaline/acid balance while avoiding foods which produce toxicity and drain the system. Essentially, the diet consists mainly of fruits and vegetables while avoiding fried foods and refined carbohydrates ( " junk food " ). Certain food combinations are emphasized. 6.ENERGY MEDICINE: In addition to the above therapies which will tend to improve circulation, the Radial Appliance is recommended to further assist in increasing relaxation and nervous system coordination. Edgar Cayce said that this appliance would be helpful for anyone having problems with disturbed sleep and fatigue.the radial appliance can be bourght from many outlets mainly in the usa across the internet.this device was recommended hundereds of times for all sorts of problems .i have a fact sheet on this 7MEDICINE: A ginseng tonic is recommended to improve digestion and eliminations. Small dosages of beef juice are recommended for persons who experience significant fatigue and lack of vitality. 8.MODERATE EXERCISE: Walking or other moderate exercise is recommended. Be outdoors in the open as much as possible. 9.ATTITUDES AND EMOTIONS: The mental and emotional aspects of healing are frequently discussed in the Cayce readings. Particularly, an attitude of desiring and expecting to be healed is important. A positive mental and emotional attitude and can be created and maintained by focusing on a high purpose (ideal) for being healed. 10. Ensure you do at least I hr per day some kind of voluntary work especialy in some health related way- when you are able. Now this touches on a concept where by contributing something to other peoples welfare it is hoped that the universe will respond by offsetting some of the not so good things we have done. I have a whole paper devoted to this subject called karma. I will send a copy of this to you – just e-mail me. Called karma I believe that this could be a real key needing total importance in treating many ailments, Edgar cayce devoted many hours to this very topic, and there are many references to it in the bible. The wise among you will consider this very carefully 11. Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many of his healings. Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel this energy . The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite. A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you. Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it. 12. study the book -the journey ISBN 0-7225-3839-1 from this web site , http://www.thejourney.com/ this person with the aid of the principles outlined clearly in the book -cleared herself from a cancer growth the size of a football in 6 weeks .I believe these same principles could be applied to a lot of conditions with positive results. *FIBROMYALGIA LINKED TO IBS* The Edgar Cayce readings consistently maintain that problems in the bowel can produce systemic conditions. A recent medical study echoes this theme. Researchers at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles,California may have discovered a simple test that links fibromyalgia (acondition manifesting as muscle pain) with irritable bowel syndrome (orIBS, a condition involving abdominal pain, bloating, and diarrhea). The lactulose breath test (LBT) is used to assess for the presence of microbes in the bowel in cases of IBS. Some previous studies have found that nearly one-third of fibromyalgia patients also have IBS. The study, published in the Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases (April2004), explored the hypothesis that LBT would be abnormal in both IBS and fibromyalgia patients. The researchers recruited 42 fibromyalgia patients, 111 IBS patients, and 15 healthy control subjects who were given the LBT. All the patients with fibromyalgia exhibited abnormal LBT results compared to 84 percent in the IBS group and 20 percent in the control group. Furthermore, the amount of hydrogen gas detected in the LBT correlated with the level of pain in the fibromyalgia patients. The researchers noted that further studies would be needed to determine if treatment and normalization of the LBT with antibiotics can produce improvement in fibromyalgia symptoms. Further information on other therapies and other ailments will be found at my web site. Go to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/seventhmoon/orion/ Please feel free to copy and distribute to your friends. You can e-mail me if you want more info on the Edgar cayce principles or specific info on some of the major complaints he dealt with such as cancer, ms etc. just e mail pho phill In , " dak_72560 " <dak_72560 wrote: > > Dear Terry, > I am from Arkansas too. I have fibromyalgia (also arthritis). This is > what I take: Fish,Flax & Borage Oil caps, 2000mg garlic gel caps > and " Nutrajoint with MSM " . These were all bought at my local walmart. > When the pain gets really bad I take an Epsom Salt bath. I also use a > rub from Northstar called Soothanol 2 (I think it has DMSO in it) but > it is expensive. This helps but as yet I have not found anything that > gets rid of it. (Also stay away from sugar. Hope you find some help. dak > > , " Terasa " > <walmartheifer44@> wrote: > > > > I would like to hear from other people who have fibomyalgia, their > > symptoms and what they are using for treatment.I Have had it > > undiagnosed for years and 2years ago after back surgery and not > > recovering like i should I have been diagnosed. I have been taking a > > product called msm and it does help with my enery level and irratable > > bowl and mind function. I would just like to hear what other people > are > > taking and if it helps, I do not want to have to take pain meds. or > > muscle relaxers!your input on this topic is greatly appreciated as > > their is no support goup that i can find here in arkansas. > > Sincerely,Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hi Terry, I have Fibromyalgia too, along with IBS. I also have CFS, so I relate to your pain. I have found sleeping on 8 inches of memory foam helps me rest better. I bought it from QVC, Visco memory foam matress and toppers. I've tried Select Comfort, but that didn't help at all. Neither did other nationally known bed companies. When I drive, I sit on 3 inches of memory foam, with a lambskin covering. Where ever my fanny goes, memory foam is sure to follow. The other day I was in so much pain, I took 2 Darvocette's left over from surgery. It knocked out the pain for awhile, but like you, I don't want to get hooked on pain med's. Out of desperation, I had a massage. I told the lady to dig into my skin, even if it hurt, just keep digging. I drove away pain free. The next morning my back felt a little sore, but no Fibromyalgia pain. That was 4 days ago, and no more pain. There's a product I bought at Walgreens, called Blue Goo, something like that. It helps too. Hope I've helped you. Magnolia , " dak_72560 " <dak_72560 wrote: > > Dear Terry, > I am from Arkansas too. I have fibromyalgia (also arthritis). This is > what I take: Fish,Flax & Borage Oil caps, 2000mg garlic gel caps > and " Nutrajoint with MSM " . These were all bought at my local walmart. > When the pain gets really bad I take an Epsom Salt bath. I also use a > rub from Northstar called Soothanol 2 (I think it has DMSO in it) but > it is expensive. This helps but as yet I have not found anything that > gets rid of it. (Also stay away from sugar. Hope you find some help. dak > > , " Terasa " > <walmartheifer44@> wrote: > > > > I would like to hear from other people who have fibomyalgia, their > > symptoms and what they are using for treatment.I Have had it > > undiagnosed for years and 2years ago after back surgery and not > > recovering like i should I have been diagnosed. I have been taking a > > product called msm and it does help with my enery level and irratable > > bowl and mind function. I would just like to hear what other people > are > > taking and if it helps, I do not want to have to take pain meds. or > > muscle relaxers!your input on this topic is greatly appreciated as > > their is no support goup that i can find here in arkansas. > > Sincerely,Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Nattokinase and lots of magnesium were tremendously helpful for fibro pain here. Darla - magnoliarouge47 Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:07 PM [sPAM] Re: fibromyalgia Hi Terry,I have Fibromyalgia too, along with IBS. I also have CFS, so I relate to your pain. I have found sleeping on 8 inches of memory foamhelps me rest better. I bought it from QVC, Visco memory foam matress and toppers. I've tried Select Comfort, but that didn't help at all. Neither did other nationally known bed companies.When I drive, I sit on 3 inches of memory foam, with a lambskin covering. Where ever my fanny goes, memory foam is sure to follow.The other day I was in so much pain, I took 2 Darvocette's left over from surgery. It knocked out the pain for awhile, but like you, I don't want to get hooked on pain med's.Out of desperation, I had a massage. I told the lady to dig into my skin, even if it hurt, just keep digging.I drove away pain free. The next morning my back felt a little sore, but no Fibromyalgia pain. That was 4 days ago, and no more pain.There's a product I bought at Walgreens, called Blue Goo, something like that. It helps too.Hope I've helped you.Magnolia , "dak_72560" <dak_72560 wrote:>> Dear Terry,> I am from Arkansas too. I have fibromyalgia (also arthritis). This is > what I take: Fish,Flax & Borage Oil caps, 2000mg garlic gel caps > and "Nutrajoint with MSM". These were all bought at my local walmart. > When the pain gets really bad I take an Epsom Salt bath. I also use a > rub from Northstar called Soothanol 2 (I think it has DMSO in it) but > it is expensive. This helps but as yet I have not found anything that > gets rid of it. (Also stay away from sugar. Hope you find some help. dak> > , "Terasa" > <walmartheifer44@> wrote:> >> > I would like to hear from other people who have fibomyalgia, their > > symptoms and what they are using for treatment.I Have had it > > undiagnosed for years and 2years ago after back surgery and not > > recovering like i should I have been diagnosed. I have been taking a > > product called msm and it does help with my enery level and irratable > > bowl and mind function. I would just like to hear what other people > are > > taking and if it helps, I do not want to have to take pain meds. or > > muscle relaxers!your input on this topic is greatly appreciated as > > their is no support goup that i can find here in arkansas. > > Sincerely,Terry> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have found an all over skin brush after a hot bath , really vigorous to help 50-60% and then not eating meat handles the rest or very little meat and definitely not pork or red meat, Best Vince Vince Nash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hi Friends! May you all have a prosperous new year. Please give me some advice on how to deal with fibromyalgia. I am suffering from these painful symptoms every morning and every time. Thanks to all. I just want to be free from this. Thanks jane Cleaner, Better, Faster - Experience the new Faster Mail today at http://ph.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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