Re:what can we do for our 5.5yr old son in New Zealand who has just bee

[Guest guest]

I always get suspicious when somebody picks on a single food and claims that

" this single food " in this case milk, is the cause of all the diseases....  This

reminds me of an email circulating around recently when somebody was claiming

that nations who eat lots of rice have lots of babies, which then leads to

overpopulation and other negative things.....

I have only gotten through the first 20min of the video but we have to realize

hei s talking about the homogenized, pasterized milk, not raw milk, the milk

people had been drinking for many years before Pasteur invented pasterization.

Frankly, I would not drink homogenized/pasterized milk either.

 

I would highly recommend people visit this website

http://www.westonaprice.org/ for information on real/raw milk and not just that.

It shows people how much our eating habits have changed..... we don't eat food

anymore but frankenstain foods...

 

I wish i had more time to show raw milk is good for people....studies were done

where researchers would infest raw milk with bacteria (not sure which but I

think listeria) and when they later checked the milk, the bacteria was not there

anymore.... real/raw milk is live food and pasteurized /homogen milk is not...

its just white water to me.

 

In any case I think he should be talking more about cow's meat because people

eat more red meat than drink cow's milk

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Fernwoods <Fernwoods wrote:

 

 

Fernwoods <Fernwoods

<< >> Re:what can we do for our 5.5yr old

son in New Zealand who has just bee

 

Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:07 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John McDougall MD routinely reverses and cures serious

diseases like diabetes and heart disease simply by helping

his patients change their diets.

 

In his experience, the most important thing to remove

from your diet is dairy foods.

 

I realize that a lot of people are not going to want to hear

this, but the science is overwhelming.

 

The scary thing is that advertising dollars from the

milk and cheese industry keeps this simple information

from getting to the public.

 

If you want a simple thing you can do to significantly

improve your health, take the time to watch this

important video.

 

Details:

 

_http://www.therealf oodchannel. com/page/ 29.html_

(http://www.therealf oodchannel. com/page/ 29.html)

 

Ken McCartthy

Founder, The Real Food Network

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Nickie,

 

 

 

I just purchased a book: 12 Steps to Raw Foods by Victoria Boutenko. It's a

very good read and she goes through how her family was very sick and healed

themselves by going raw (diabetes, asthma, obesity etc.). I'm not sure if

I'll be able to go 100% raw: however her explanations, details and what they

went through are enough to convince me that everyone needs more raw foods.

Look into it as your son may have great improvement.nothing to lose as far

as I'm concerned except for some discomfort as far as eating differently.

 

 

 

Good luck and I hope whatever you do follow works out.

 

 

 

Lisa

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Nickie

Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:21 PM

 

<< >> Re:what can we do for our 5.5yr

old son in New Zealand who has just bee

 

 

 

 

 

Hey thanks guys, my mind has been bogglleed!! loads to look at. There is

something I can't get in my head and I'm not entirely sure if we've been

'sold' this idea from our 'health' (hospital) ppl, but how can eating

'proper' food switch the pancreas back on. Or has the pancreas not switched

off. Our son has had 2 1 hr crystal healings and seems to be reducing his

need for insulin via injections. We are also going into what 'they' call the

honeymoon period, whereby his pancreas is making his own insulin. how come

we can't pick it up from here. I've asked the Drs etc and they just shake

their heads and say no use, no studies have been successfully done. Although

in NZ yesturday they did the 1st pig cell transplant on a patient. When I

ask questions about natural stuff in the type 1 diabetic www forum, they all

tell me to bascially get real and just take the insulin.

I do get that food plays a large part of our health and am slowly looking

into this - we have to obviously change our way of thinking etc. how do we

get kids (esp one with Diabetes) to eat this way. I don't know I think I'm

rambling now, I'm so confused. Anyways better go and get on with our day

talk soon Look forward to yr replys - got more help here than Diabetes

forum. Some ppl must like being sick I reckon.

Nickie

Alternative- <%40>

Medicine-Forum , NaturallyMe <anradmand wrote:

>

> I always get suspicious when somebody picks on a single food and claims

that " this single food " in this case milk, is the cause of all the

diseases.... This reminds me of an email circulating around recently when

somebody was claiming that nations who eat lots of rice have lots of babies,

which then leads to overpopulation and other negative things.....

> I have only gotten through the first 20min of the video but we have to

realize hei s talking about the homogenized, pasterized milk, not raw milk,

the milk people had been drinking for many years before Pasteur invented

pasterization. Frankly, I would not drink homogenized/pasterized milk

either.

>

> I would highly recommend people visit this website http://www.westonap

<http://www.westonaprice.org/> rice.org/ for information on real/raw milk

and not just that. It shows people how much our eating habits have

changed..... we don't eat food anymore but frankenstain foods...

>

> I wish i had more time to show raw milk is good for people....studies were

done where researchers would infest raw milk with bacteria (not sure which

but I think listeria) and when they later checked the milk, the bacteria was

not there anymore.... real/raw milk is live food and pasteurized /homogen

milk is not... its just white water to me.

>

> In any case I think he should be talking more about cow's meat because

people eat more red meat than drink cow's milk

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Fernwoods <Fernwoods wrote:

>

>

> Fernwoods <Fernwoods

> << >> Re:what can we do for our 5.5yr

old son in New Zealand who has just bee

> Alternative- <%40>

Medicine-Forum

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:07 PM

>

John McDougall MD routinely reverses and cures serious

> diseases like diabetes and heart disease simply by helping

> his patients change their diets.

>

> In his experience, the most important thing to remove

> from your diet is dairy foods.

>

> I realize that a lot of people are not going to want to hear

> this, but the science is overwhelming.

>

> The scary thing is that advertising dollars from the

> milk and cheese industry keeps this simple information

> from getting to the public.

>

> If you want a simple thing you can do to significantly

> improve your health, take the time to watch this

> important video.

>

> Details:

>

> _http://www.therealf oodchannel. com/page/ 29.html_

> (http://www.therealf oodchannel. com/page/ 29.html)

>

> Ken McCartthy

> Founder, The Real Food Network

>

> ===

>

>

> Person called into coast to coast & said show with Dr Cousens changed his

> life - cured his diabetes with fast & the raw food diet

>

> _dr gabriel cousens diabetes raw diet - Google Search_

> (http://www.google. com/search? hl=en & ie= UTF-8 & ei= yTPeSZqDJd_ MlQey4thJ &

sa=X & oi=spell & resnum=1 & ct=r

> esult & cd=1 & q= dr+gabriel+ cousens+diabetes +raw+diet & spell=1)

>

>

>

> 1. _Dr. Gabriel Cousens on Diabetes, Cell Memory and Reducing Blood

> Sugar_ (http://www.naturaln ews.com/023012. html)

> Apr 14, 2008 ... Raw Summit Excerpt with Dr. Gabriel Cousens, inductee in

> the National .... And so what we do with the live-food diet is the

> foundation of ...

> www.naturalnews. com/023012. html - 42k - _Cached_

> (http://74.125. 93.104/search? q=cache:eaGjBPlc MWQJ:www. naturalnews.

com/023012. html+dr+gabriel+ cousens+di

> abetes+raw+diet & cd=1 & hl=en & ct=clnk & gl= us & ie=UTF- 8) - _Similar pages_

> (http://www.google. com/search? hl=en & ie= UTF-8 & q=related:

www.naturalnews. com/023012.

> html)

> 2. _Diabetes can be Cured with the Tree of Life Vegan, Diabetes Diet

> ..._ (http://www.treeofli fe.nu/diabetes)

> Supported by Dr. Cousens breakthrough book, There is a Cure for Diabetes,

> ... world-renowned holistic medical doctor Gabriel Cousens asserts

> otherwise. ... studies regarding the effect of a month of raw food and

specific

> supplements. ...

> www.treeoflife. nu/diabetes - 23k - _Cached_

> (http://74.125. 93.104/search? q=cache:MzouwLLj E3MJ:www. treeoflife.

nu/diabetes+ dr+gabriel+ cousens+diabetes +raw

> +diet & cd=2 & hl= en & ct=clnk & gl=us & ie= UTF-8) - _Similar pages_

> (http://www.google. com/search? hl=en & ie= UTF-8 & q=related: www.treeoflife.

nu/diabetes)

> 3. _Raw Food Diet for Diabetes, Miracles do Exist! | Tree of Life

> ..._ (http://www.treeofli fe.nu/diabetessu ccessstory)

> Recently we came back from Israel, where dr. Gabriel Cousens did a pilot

> study about treating diabetes with raw food. The results were very

> promissing, ...

> www.treeoflife. nu/diabetessucce ssstory - 18k - _Cached_

> (http://74.125. 93.104/search? q=cache:YsNKRarW NaUJ:www. treeoflife.

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The question that occurs to me, and that addresses and may represent one of

those mysteries in human health and disease, is the " extent " to which dairy (or

any other offending food) should be removed from " your " diet. It's very hard to

believe that dairy foods ought to be " removed " from the human diet, and vastly

easier to believe that dairy foods ought to be " more or less removed " from

" most " people's diets. It seems likely that people accustomed from birth, to

eating unprocessed dairy foods, in, say, a rustic and far less industrialized

society, would respond to diary consumption with fewer if any problems, compared

with those of us that live in big, " unnatural, " cities, and often consume far

too much of often highly processed forms of dairy. If you take a hundred people

at random, and observe them after eating a given amount of diary, I would

expect a " range " of responses from mild (or no) illness to severe illness. I

don't have the science to bear out my hunches, but as it stands, I don't even

feel comfortable saying that we would never see " anyone " actually benefittiing

from some dairy consumption. Suffice it to say that, given the benefit of low

intake levels, combined with careful avoidance of the worst forms of dairy,

probably consuming dairy more or less by itself, etc., I still cannot see that

it's necessarily unwise to leave it in one's diet.

jp

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Fernwoods

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:07 PM

<< >> Re:what can we do for our 5.5yr old

son in New Zealand who has just bee

 

 

 

John McDougall MD routinely reverses and cures serious

diseases like diabetes and heart disease simply by helping

his patients change their diets.

 

In his experience, the most important thing to remove

from your diet is dairy foods.

 

I realize that a lot of people are not going to want to hear

this, but the science is overwhelming.

 

The scary thing is that advertising dollars from the

milk and cheese industry keeps this simple information

from getting to the public.

 

If you want a simple thing you can do to significantly

improve your health, take the time to watch this

important video.

 

Details:

 

_http://www.therealfoodchannel.com/page/29.html_

(http://www.therealfoodchannel.com/page/29.html)

 

Ken McCartthy

Founder, The Real Food Network

 

===

 

 

Person called into coast to coast & said show with Dr Cousens changed his

life - cured his diabetes with fast & the raw food diet

 

_dr gabriel cousens diabetes raw diet - Google Search_

(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & ie=UTF-8 & ei=yTPeSZqDJd_MlQey4thJ & sa=X & oi=spe\

ll & resnum=1 & ct=r

esult & cd=1 & q=dr+gabriel+cousens+diabetes+raw+diet & spell=1)

 

 

 

1. _Dr. Gabriel Cousens on Diabetes, Cell Memory and Reducing Blood

Sugar_ (http://www.naturalnews.com/023012.html)

Apr 14, 2008 ... Raw Summit Excerpt with Dr. Gabriel Cousens, inductee in

the National .... And so what we do with the live-food diet is the

foundation of ...

www.naturalnews.com/023012.html - 42k - _Cached_

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2. _Diabetes can be Cured with the Tree of Life Vegan, Diabetes Diet

..._ (http://www.treeoflife.nu/diabetes)

Supported by Dr. Cousens breakthrough book, There is a Cure for Diabetes,

... world-renowned holistic medical doctor Gabriel Cousens asserts

otherwise. ... studies regarding the effect of a month of raw food and

specific

supplements. ...

www.treeoflife.nu/diabetes - 23k - _Cached_

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..._ (http://www.treeoflife.nu/diabetessuccessstory)

Recently we came back from Israel, where dr. Gabriel Cousens did a pilot

study about treating diabetes with raw food. The results were very

promissing, ...

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