Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Dang it, I've read the stories on different lists I'm on. I didn't want to believe it - that there ARE actually people out there with a terrible affliction called LACK OF BRAINS. Case in point: I was in a street fair this past Sunday. Sales were going well, and I was happy. I'm new to street fairs, and the first few I did (this past May) weren't too good. This one was going great. And then it happened. A seemingly normal-looking woman came up to me and asked, " Excuse me, but does your soap have soap in it? " I must have looked at her like she was from outer space. I asked her to repeat the question, and she did....exactly the same way. Now, I suppose I should preface this by saying this - I have NO patience for stupidity. I have a long fuse, but this was just beyond stupidity. This woman was a wingnut supreme! So, I tried to once again ask her nicely to rephrase the question. She did. The same way, only this time she added, " I can't use soap with soap in it. I'm allergic, you know. " At that, I said, " I'm sorry, ma'am, but my soap is 100% pure soap, and nothing more. If you'd like some soap with no soap and merely detergents, I would suggest you go to Shop Rite and pick up a bar of Dial, or any other similar non-soap soap. " She walked away, but several people listening to our silly argument came over and some even bought my 100% soap soap. : ) Cindy Pittstown SOAPworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 OK, Cindy-- When were YOU in Michigan????? I get that regularly from a woman who comes to the Farmer's Market because she doesn't remember from week to week that she's run that on me for almost two seasons now!! LMAO, Serra guinness97 wrote: > Dang it, I've read the stories on different lists I'm on. I didn't want to believe it - that there ARE actually people out there with a terrible affliction called LACK OF BRAINS. Case in point: I was in a street fair this past Sunday. Sales were going well, and I was happy. I'm new to street fairs, and the first few I did (this past May) weren't too good. This one was going great. > > And then it happened. A seemingly normal-looking woman came up to me and asked, " Excuse me, but does your soap have soap in it? " I must have looked at her like she was from outer space. I asked her to repeat the question, and she did....exactly the same way. > > Now, I suppose I should preface this by saying this - I have NO patience for stupidity. I have a long fuse, but this was just beyond stupidity. This woman was a wingnut supreme! So, I tried to once again ask her nicely to rephrase the question. She did. The same way, only this time she added, " I can't use soap with soap in it. I'm allergic, you know. " > > At that, I said, " I'm sorry, ma'am, but my soap is 100% pure soap, and nothing more. If you'd like some soap with no soap and merely detergents, I would suggest you go to Shop Rite and pick up a bar of Dial, or any other similar non-soap soap. " > > She walked away, but several people listening to our silly argument came over and some even bought my 100% soap soap. > > : ) > Cindy > Pittstown SOAPworks > -- serraangel @ chartermi.net for latest co-op info! eBay Seller ID jadenhaize Heaven on Earth www.angelicprovidence.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 LMAO - they're all over, aren't they? I truly didn't believe it. I'm in NJ, btw..... I thought to myself (well, I can't really say WHAT I thought to myself because I believe profanity isn't allowed on the list--lol), it's true! There really IS a group of people out there who are inherently stupid. I even asked her if she meant fragrance or a particular ingredient, and the more she insisted it was SOAP she was allergic to, the angrier I became until I just couldn't take it anymore and had to give her the " get out of my face " look and told her to go to Shop Rite. Oh, and I left out the 2nd wingnut for the day - another lady asking about hypoallergenic right after her. I just handed her a bar of unscented and she was happy - no arguments there, but jeez! Two in one day? Cindy -------------- Original message from Serra : -------------- OK, Cindy-- When were YOU in Michigan????? I get that regularly from a woman who comes to the Farmer's Market because she doesn't remember from week to week that she's run that on me for almost two seasons now!! LMAO, Serra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 LOL!! I get those too, plus, is your soap antibacterial? I kind of let them know that if they wash their hands like they should, then yes, it's antibacterial!! VBEG!! You figure they have their heads so ingrained in commercials that they don't know how good " real " soap is!! I had one girl swear up and down that she couldn't use any soap. She could only use Dove. I told her about one of my soaps and the only ingredient is Olive Oil! She still couldn't believe that her doctor would steer her wrong. I finally got her to take a sample of the Olive Oil soap and she called me a week later saying how wonderful her skin felt and that the bumps that she was so used to being on her face and chest went away!!! Amazing what handmade soap will do for ya!! Nikie Brown After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Toiletries http://www.aftertherayne.com <http://www.aftertherayne.com/> nbrown 936-203-3188 guinness97 [guinness97] Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:15 PM Re: My first soapy wingnut LMAO - they're all over, aren't they? I truly didn't believe it. I'm in NJ, btw..... I thought to myself (well, I can't really say WHAT I thought to myself because I believe profanity isn't allowed on the list--lol), it's true! There really IS a group of people out there who are inherently stupid. I even asked her if she meant fragrance or a particular ingredient, and the more she insisted it was SOAP she was allergic to, the angrier I became until I just couldn't take it anymore and had to give her the " get out of my face " look and told her to go to Shop Rite. Oh, and I left out the 2nd wingnut for the day - another lady asking about hypoallergenic right after her. I just handed her a bar of unscented and she was happy - no arguments there, but jeez! Two in one day? Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 yep - but don't you think that this one really took the cake? Does my soap contain soap??? I had to ask for clarification several times, and she said it the same EACH time. People! lol Well, at least the ruckus caused attention which made people come over and some bought! lol I thought I was going to get a string of them, as right after that a woman asked about whether my soap was " hypoallergenic " so I asked what she's allergic to - turns out it's fragrance, so I said, " Well, if you choose an unscented oatmeal (my MOST popular type, believe it or not), then yes, it's hypoallergenic for YOU. I hate marketing hypes. lol Cindy - LOL!! I get those too, plus, is your soap antibacterial? I kind of let them know that if they wash their hands like they should, then yes, it's antibacterial!! VBEG!! You figure they have their heads so ingrained in commercials that they don't know how good " real " soap is!! I had one girl swear up and down that she couldn't use any soap. She could only use Dove. I told her about one of my soaps and the only ingredient is Olive Oil! She still couldn't believe that her doctor would steer her wrong. I finally got her to take a sample of the Olive Oil soap and she called me a week later saying how wonderful her skin felt and that the bumps that she was so used to being on her face and chest went away!!! Amazing what handmade soap will do for ya!! Nikie Brown After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Toiletries http://www.aftertherayne.com <http://www.aftertherayne.com/> nbrown 936-203-3188 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Cindy, that is just awsome! I work at Hairmasters, and yes, people are mostly stupid there. They dont know why they are having flaking, but its not dandruff or why their hair all of a sudden became dry. Lack of common sense mostly. Its usually their shampoo: Pantene, Dove, White Rain, etc. Now I am not perfect, by far, and I do believe in educating the public but sheesh. that is why, hopefully, I can sell a few of my wares online..and who knows, maybe be able to work at home..and deal with only a few wingnuts... Hugs, Nessy At that, I said, " I'm sorry, ma'am, but my soap is 100% pure soap, and nothing more. If you'd like some soap with no soap and merely detergents, I would suggest you go to Shop Rite and pick up a bar of Dial, or any other similar non-soap soap. " She walked away, but several people listening to our silly argument came over and some even bought my 100% soap soap. : ) Cindy Pittstown SOAPworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi, Nessy! Do you make your own shampoo? I just started with the liquid soaps (aka shower gel?) and I sold a bunch of them - was really happy, considering the amount of work that goes into getting it to come out " right. " I was thinking that I make my own laundry soap (not for sale--personal use), my own soap that I do sell, and now shower gels, so why not shampoo? I'm very sure that the commercial " detergents " I'm using aren't great for the health of my hair. Thanks! Cindy - Cindy, that is just awsome! I work at Hairmasters, and yes, people are mostly stupid there. They dont know why they are having flaking, but its not dandruff or why their hair all of a sudden became dry. Lack of common sense mostly. Its usually their shampoo: Pantene, Dove, White Rain, etc. Now I am not perfect, by far, and I do believe in educating the public but sheesh. that is why, hopefully, I can sell a few of my wares online..and who knows, maybe be able to work at home..and deal with only a few wingnuts... Hugs, Nessy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Cindy, I know I'm not Nessy, but I have been reading that using a homemade soap to wash your hair can leave behind a 'scum' of sorts, and doesn't rinse as clean. Someone recommended to rinse hair thoroughly with a small amount of vinegar to cut the scum, then rinse well with clean water. It's supposed to help at least. If you'd like, email me offlist, and I can give you further information. I too, would prefer to use a homemade soap for anything that I can......but I don't want to have any really 'bad' hair days if I can help it! Candy in AL - " Pittstown Soapworks, LLC " <guinness97 Friday, September 17, 2004 12:14 PM Re: My first soapy wingnut > Hi, Nessy! > Do you make your own shampoo? I just started with the liquid soaps (aka shower gel?) and I sold a bunch of them - was really happy, considering the amount of work that goes into getting it to come out " right. " I was thinking that I make my own laundry soap (not for sale--personal use), my own soap that I do sell, and now shower gels, so why not shampoo? I'm very sure that the commercial " detergents " I'm using aren't great for the health of my hair. > Thanks! > Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi, Candy! I don't mind asking on list......if you don't mind answering onlist. We might help someone! My hair is baby fine (I've heard Chris, list-mom saying her hair is similar). I have such a hard time with shampoos - have yet to find the " perfect " shampoo. They all weigh my hair down and make it look greasy by the end of the day. I'm 42, so that's just NOT acceptable. lol I also don't want to smell like a pickle. lol Too bad there isn't a vinegar that has no smell! My mom uses my bar soap in her hair (she has the same baby-fine hair I do - great genes, huh? lol), and she swears by it. I like the " feel " of the liquid - like a commercial shampoo - better. But to answer your question, I would love to know.....yes, please do tell! Cindy - I know I'm not Nessy, but I have been reading that using a homemade soap to wash your hair can leave behind a 'scum' of sorts, and doesn't rinse as clean. Someone recommended to rinse hair thoroughly with a small amount of vinegar to cut the scum, then rinse well with clean water. It's supposed to help at least. If you'd like, email me offlist, and I can give you further information. I too, would prefer to use a homemade soap for anything that I can......but I don't want to have any really 'bad' hair days if I can help it! Candy in AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Cindy.... The reason I said offlist, ....well there's another list......and I wasn't sure if Chris would mind if I list it here..... Ok, here goes, and Chris, if I've broken a rule, please don't beat me too much with that wet noodle! Go to , at CosmeticLab/ They discuss all types of cosmetics, soaps, lotions, shampoos, etc.....anything and most EVERYTHING that you wouldn't think of, they discuss in detail here. Very cool people, and most helpful. They go into great detail regarding FDA regs, and all. I am not sure if the other group will allow me to post excerpts of 'their' list materials here.... I will have to ask first. Give me a bit, and I will ask. Then if it's A-OK, I will send more info to the list. HTH, Candy - " Pittstown Soapworks, LLC " <guinness97 Friday, September 17, 2004 12:41 PM Re: My first soapy wingnut > > Hi, Candy! > > I don't mind asking on list......if you don't mind answering onlist. We might help someone! > > My hair is baby fine (I've heard Chris, list-mom saying her hair is similar). I have such a hard time with shampoos - have yet to find the " perfect " shampoo. They all weigh my hair down and make it look greasy by the end of the day. I'm 42, so that's just NOT acceptable. lol > > I also don't want to smell like a pickle. lol > Too bad there isn't a vinegar that has no smell! > > My mom uses my bar soap in her hair (she has the same baby-fine hair I do - great genes, huh? lol), and she swears by it. I like the " feel " of the liquid - like a commercial shampoo - better. > > But to answer your question, I would love to know.....yes, please do tell! > > Cindy > > - > > > I know I'm not Nessy, but I have been reading that using a homemade soap to > wash your hair can leave behind a 'scum' of sorts, and doesn't rinse as > clean. Someone recommended to rinse hair thoroughly with a small amount of > vinegar to cut the scum, then rinse well with clean water. It's supposed to help at least. > > If you'd like, email me offlist, and I can give you further information. > > I too, would prefer to use a homemade soap for anything that I can......but > I don't want to have any really 'bad' hair days if I can help it! > > Candy in AL > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 OH! Oops. Chris - my fault. Don't blame Candy for that one! Cindy - C. Lucas Friday, September 17, 2004 12:58 PM Re: My first soapy wingnut Cindy.... The reason I said offlist, ....well there's another list......and I wasn't sure if Chris would mind if I list it here..... Ok, here goes, and Chris, if I've broken a rule, please don't beat me too much with that wet noodle! Go to , at CosmeticLab/ They discuss all types of cosmetics, soaps, lotions, shampoos, etc.....anything and most EVERYTHING that you wouldn't think of, they discuss in detail here. Very cool people, and most helpful. They go into great detail regarding FDA regs, and all. I am not sure if the other group will allow me to post excerpts of 'their' list materials here.... I will have to ask first. Give me a bit, and I will ask. Then if it's A-OK, I will send more info to the list. HTH, Candy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi Cindy, Excuse me for jumping in here but I was a hairdresser for many years and owned my own salon. I too have " frog hair " as does my granddaughter. The best shampoo I ever used was by Sabastin ( I'm sure I misspelled that) It was call Cello. Very mild and had a partner conditioner. Since I no longer have my salon and the country salons out here don't even know anything about this product line, I can no longer get them. If you come across them I know you'd love it. For now I am working on an herbal shampoo with and herbal rinse for our type for hair. Tree Tea is very good for our limp delicate hair. Hugs, Sally - Pittstown Soapworks, LLC<guinness97 < > Friday, September 17, 2004 11:41 AM Re: My first soapy wingnut Hi, Candy! I don't mind asking on list......if you don't mind answering onlist. We might help someone! My hair is baby fine (I've heard Chris, list-mom saying her hair is similar). I have such a hard time with shampoos - have yet to find the " perfect " shampoo. They all weigh my hair down and make it look greasy by the end of the day. I'm 42, so that's just NOT acceptable. lol I also don't want to smell like a pickle. lol Too bad there isn't a vinegar that has no smell! My mom uses my bar soap in her hair (she has the same baby-fine hair I do - great genes, huh? lol), and she swears by it. I like the " feel " of the liquid - like a commercial shampoo - better. But to answer your question, I would love to know.....yes, please do tell! Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Sally, What do you think will show up more important. The shampoo or the rinse? I am curious. For years I have used a homemade liquid shampoo ( not made by me) and I do have big problems with dry skin and scalp. But my problems is even bigger with commercial shampoos. I changed my diet to use more antioxidants, especially Omega 3 fish oil. Still not a big difference. I suspect it's the medication I take.. C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 I make a shampoo bar that rinses out squeaky clean first time around!! I use oils that are great for the hair such as Squalane, Meadowfoam, Camellia, Rice Bran, etc. I've been using my shampoo bars for the past four years and haven't had any problems with my hair. Also, I have many followers who love my shampoo bars!! HTH, Nikie Brown After The Rayne - Handmade Soaps & Toiletries http://www.aftertherayne.com <http://www.aftertherayne.com/> nbrown 936-203-3188 C. Lucas [cdlucas] Friday, September 17, 2004 11:19 AM Re: My first soapy wingnut Cindy, I know I'm not Nessy, but I have been reading that using a homemade soap to wash your hair can leave behind a 'scum' of sorts, and doesn't rinse as clean. Someone recommended to rinse hair thoroughly with a small amount of vinegar to cut the scum, then rinse well with clean water. It's supposed to help at least. If you'd like, email me offlist, and I can give you further information. I too, would prefer to use a homemade soap for anything that I can......but I don't want to have any really 'bad' hair days if I can help it! Candy in AL - " Pittstown Soapworks, LLC " <guinness97 Friday, September 17, 2004 12:14 PM Re: My first soapy wingnut > Hi, Nessy! > Do you make your own shampoo? I just started with the liquid soaps (aka shower gel?) and I sold a bunch of them - was really happy, considering the amount of work that goes into getting it to come out " right. " I was thinking that I make my own laundry soap (not for sale--personal use), my own soap that I do sell, and now shower gels, so why not shampoo? I'm very sure that the commercial " detergents " I'm using aren't great for the health of my hair. > Thanks! > Cindy Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Thanks, Sally! LOL - never heard of it referred to as " frog hair " before! That's funny. Cindy - Excuse me for jumping in here but I was a hairdresser for many years and owned my own salon. I too have " frog hair " as does my granddaughter. The best shampoo I ever used was by Sabastin ( I'm sure I misspelled that) It was call Cello. Very mild and had a partner conditioner. Since I no longer have my salon and the country salons out here don't even know anything about this product line, I can no longer get them. If you come across them I know you'd love it. For now I am working on an herbal shampoo with and herbal rinse for our type for hair. Tree Tea is very good for our limp delicate hair. Hugs, Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Hi Chris, One thing you can do is strip the meds out of your hair. Even asprin deposits in your hair. Redkin and Jeri Mac make a product called Phanilly ( Fa-nal- lee) that strips out all the meds from your hair. As for a good conditioner I always like Wella Kolestrol. Fats is what naturally conditions our hair . You might also add a little extra olive oil to your diet. One of the main things for hair and skin care is that when we open the shaft or the pores we need to do a cool rinse afterwards to close them up otherwise all the good we put on or in is lost. After I rinse my hair I then give it a quick rinse with cool water. Same with my face. I think we need to use a good shampoo that will get all the grime and such off of the hair shaft but then re need to replace some fats to the hair and close the shaft up. If you use a conditioner and rinse with warm water you are leaving the hair shaft open to lose what moisture it has. I am not big on all the fancy high priced shampoos and conditioners. All you need is a simple gentle shampoo that removes all the grime and oils that attaches to the hair and then a simple detangler so you don't split the hair shaft trying to comb your hair out wet. Also once a month you need to put back some of the fats that is lost from using blow dryers, curling irons, out in the sun or wind ect... If you eat right then your hair has enough of the vit B's ect.. I use Wella Kolestrol once a moth . I have also found that tea tree EO is very good for fine limp hair. When and if I get a shampoo formula worked out that does well on our kind of hair I'll gladly post it for anyone who wants to try it. Right now I'm leaning more to a liquid shampoo instead of a bar. I hope this helps with your hair questions. Hugs Sally - Christa Maria<cmaria < > Friday, September 17, 2004 5:37 PM Re: My first soapy wingnut Sally, What do you think will show up more important. The shampoo or the rinse? I am curious. For years I have used a homemade liquid shampoo ( not made by me) and I do have big problems with dry skin and scalp. But my problems is even bigger with commercial shampoos. I changed my diet to use more antioxidants, especially Omega 3 fish oil. Still not a big difference. I suspect it's the medication I take.. C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ribbbit ribbit ! Cindy lol A few years after I sold my salon and went back to work in the hair biz. I worked in the first Tony and Guy salon in Dallas on Sherry Lane. It was there that the term " Frog Hair " was first made . LOL James , a Scottish guy, cut my hair very very short because he said I had frog hair and it looked better short. It was cute and it fit my face but it was as short as a guy's hair cut. So frog hair it became. Hugs, Sally - Pittstown Soapworks, LLC<guinness97 < > Saturday, September 18, 2004 6:16 AM Re: My first soapy wingnut Thanks, Sally! LOL - never heard of it referred to as " frog hair " before! That's funny. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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