EO's for healing sores

[Guest guest]

While you might not want to use the dermatologist medicines, but you might

want to use his expertise and get a diagnosis. If this has been going on to 2

years, it might just be time to fine out what it is and then plot a course

of action. Maybe look for a DO as they are more open to natural therapies.

 

If you are using comfrey on a deep wound, it can heal the surface and then

the stuff on the bottom festers and causes more problems. Just an example.

 

Best of luck.

 

Green Blessings

Patty Corapi

 

In a message dated 8/18/2004 1:53:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cdlucas writes:

 

I have tried a bit of everything over the course of about 2 years

now.....and the last time, I thought it was healed up for good. Until 2

days ago, and it opened again. <sigh>

 

Any suggestions? Like I said, it doesn't look or feel infected.....and I

would prefer to not go to the dermatologist about this....If I can do

something about it myself.

 

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

Candy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hey folks.

 

I'm hoping someone can help me....Perhaps Martin, if he's around, could shed

some light on this one, since he sent some info a while back regarding the

use of EO's on leg ulcers.

 

I have a small area on my upper arm.... approximately the size of a dime,

that will 'heal' then open back up again. It's like it only heals on the

top of the opening, and then after a couple of months, it will reopen.

 

I have some terrible scar tissue on the outer edges of the sore....purple

and lumpy....and the sore, once it reopens will ooze a bloody tinged clear

" oil " like stuff. Not really what you would call pus, it's not like it's

infected.

 

I have tried a bit of everything over the course of about 2 years

now.....and the last time, I thought it was healed up for good. Until 2

days ago, and it opened again. <sigh>

 

Any suggestions? Like I said, it doesn't look or feel infected.....and I

would prefer to not go to the dermatologist about this....If I can do

something about it myself.

 

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

Candy

[Guest guest]

Actually, I meant a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine - they are trained the

same as a regular MD, but they also receive training in holistic techniques that

emphasize the body's ability to heal.

 

When I was having problems with my lower back, I went to a Neurologist that

was a DO. He had no problem with me giving a diagnosis and then my using

herbs to work problem. He did give me a prescription, but it was if I wanted

to

use it and it was not for a knock out drug to mask the problem. It was

actually a muscle relaxer to release the tension. It turned out I had a

bulging

disk which I would never have been able to discover without the MRI. He also

checked to be sure there was no nerve damage. So he told me the problem and

I worked it with herbs and other holistic treatments. He did also write me

a prescription for massages which my health insurance covered partially. He

was also open to my seeing an acupuncturist as well. He sent me to physical

therapy which helped greatly after a whiplash problem.

 

Remember there are some doctors that are open to holistic treatments. I

have found that using a DO instead of an MD or an MD that has been recommended

from a local herb shop. Some of them really do use herbs or at least are open

to their use.

 

Or you can try a Doctor of Oriental Medicine as there is probably an

imbalance in the body which is causing the flare ups.

 

Best of luck and sorry to hear of your problems with the current

dermatologist. Personally, I would not go back to him if he wasn't open to

your wishes.

He is not going to be able to do his job as the two of you are not on the

same playing field. The doctor and the patient have to be working together

for healing to take place. And I believe this goes for any type of healing.

If you both don't trust each other or believe in the same types of healing, it

will never work. It doesn't even stand a chance. You are wasting both your

time and the doctor's. Look for a new doctor and ask questions before you

make an appointment. I ask the person if the doctor is open to me strictly

using herbs as a course of treatment. If they don't know or balk, I thank them

for their time and look elsewhere. Because I know it will not work as the

doctor will think I'm nuts for not taking his drugs and I'll think he just as

nuts for not taking my herbs. And I respect both of our opinions and I

wouldn't try to fight the system, because nobody wins. If you think your

doctor is

a quack before you go to them, there is no respect and more than likely no

chance for healing to occur. Or tell them you are just looking for a

diagnosis. Ask them to run the tests, get the results and work the issue with

who

you trust as your healer. Remember even if we think MDs are quacks, they have

some wonderful tools to get to the root of a problem - blood test, x-rays,

and such. I'll be getting down off my soap box now.

 

Have a wonderful day.

 

Green Blessings

Patty Corapi

 

In a message dated 8/18/2004 2:50:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

chrisziggy writes:

 

Patti mentioned finding a Doctor Of Oriental Medicine ..

 

Here is a link to helping folks find them in their area (also listed in

the group's links section)

http://www.nccaom.org/find.htm

 

In many cases insurance will cover a visit to them as an " out of network

physician " .

 

Good luck!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Patty,

 

I have not used Comfrey....as this was something I had heard too.

 

Everytime I have been to the Dr.....I forget to mention it....and I don't

want to make a special trip.

Although I may have to do so.

 

And not to mention, I really don't care for the way he is......I mean, he

seems to be a pretty good doctor, but not very open to anything other than

prescription medication. He wanted me to use a RX face wash....but it made

my face worse! I told him that I was using homemade soap, and that it was

doing better with that.....and he complained! Yet, he tried to send me home

with a sample bar of DOVE soap for sensitive skin. How dumb is that? I

don't need an MD after my name to know something was wrong with that! I

told him that I can't use DOVE soap....there's something in it, that my skin

truly doesn't like! I break out something horrible if I use that stuff.

Hence, the reason I make my own soap! He wasn't amused in my balking his

'medical' advice that's for sure.

 

Anyway, I guess I need to get with my family quack...um, I mean doctor, and

see if he can recommend another dermatologist.

 

Thanks again for your reply,

Candy

 

-

<PACorapi

 

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:05 PM

Re: EO's for healing sores

 

 

> While you might not want to use the dermatologist medicines, but you might

> want to use his expertise and get a diagnosis. If this has been going on

to 2

> years, it might just be time to fine out what it is and then plot a course

> of action. Maybe look for a DO as they are more open to natural

therapies.

>

> If you are using comfrey on a deep wound, it can heal the surface and then

> the stuff on the bottom festers and causes more problems. Just an

example.

>

> Best of luck.

>

> Green Blessings

> Patty Corapi

[Guest guest]

Patti mentioned finding a Doctor Of Oriental Medicine ..

 

Here is a link to helping folks find them in their area (also listed in

the group's links section)

http://www.nccaom.org/find.htm

 

In many cases insurance will cover a visit to them as an " out of network

physician " .

 

Good luck!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

PACorapi [PACorapi]

 

 

While you might not want to use the dermatologist medicines, but you

might

want to use his expertise and get a diagnosis. If this has been going

on to 2

years, it might just be time to fine out what it is and then plot a

course

of action. Maybe look for a DO as they are more open to natural

therapies.

 

If you are using comfrey on a deep wound, it can heal the surface and

then

the stuff on the bottom festers and causes more problems. Just an

example.

 

Best of luck.

 

Green Blessings

Patty Corapi

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Candy,

I've made my doc laugh at me, but showed him the results too, so he's getting

better about giving me crap about using what I

can make.

I wear a medication patch--dang thing gives me dermatitis, he wants me using

cortisone cream (doesn't work). So I used

cortisone cream on one patch, used my whipped shea on a newer patch, showed him

the difference (the whipped shea heals faster

than the cortisone cream did, even took the date labels that come with my

patches and dated the treatment starts). He didn't

say much but quit hassling me about using " moisturizer " on it

LOL,

Serra

 

 

 

" C. Lucas " wrote:

 

> Thanks Patty,

>

> I have not used Comfrey....as this was something I had heard too.

>

> Everytime I have been to the Dr.....I forget to mention it....and I don't

> want to make a special trip.

> Although I may have to do so.

>

> And not to mention, I really don't care for the way he is......I mean, he

> seems to be a pretty good doctor, but not very open to anything other than

> prescription medication. He wanted me to use a RX face wash....but it made

> my face worse! I told him that I was using homemade soap, and that it was

> doing better with that.....and he complained! Yet, he tried to send me home

> with a sample bar of DOVE soap for sensitive skin. How dumb is that? I

> don't need an MD after my name to know something was wrong with that! I

> told him that I can't use DOVE soap....there's something in it, that my skin

> truly doesn't like! I break out something horrible if I use that stuff.

> Hence, the reason I make my own soap! He wasn't amused in my balking his

> 'medical' advice that's for sure.

>

> Anyway, I guess I need to get with my family quack...um, I mean doctor, and

> see if he can recommend another dermatologist.

>

> Thanks again for your reply,

> Candy

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Chris! I will definitely look into it.

 

Candy

-

" Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy

 

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:48 PM

RE: EO's for healing sores

 

 

> Patti mentioned finding a Doctor Of Oriental Medicine ..

>

> Here is a link to helping folks find them in their area (also listed in

> the group's links section)

> http://www.nccaom.org/find.htm

>

> In many cases insurance will cover a visit to them as an " out of network

> physician " .

>

> Good luck!

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com

>

>

> PACorapi [PACorapi]

>

>

> While you might not want to use the dermatologist medicines, but you

> might

> want to use his expertise and get a diagnosis. If this has been going

> on to 2

> years, it might just be time to fine out what it is and then plot a

> course

> of action. Maybe look for a DO as they are more open to natural

> therapies.

>

> If you are using comfrey on a deep wound, it can heal the surface and

> then

> the stuff on the bottom festers and causes more problems. Just an

> example.

>

> Best of luck.

>

> Green Blessings

> Patty Corapi

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Serra,

 

I showed him how much my skin had improved using my soap over his RX face

wash...... He still wasn't impressed. Perhaps he was just having a bad

day.....

 

I will have to keep up with dates and such for the next time I have a

problem.

 

Have a good one,

Candy

-

" Serra " <serraangel

 

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:51 PM

Re: EO's for healing sores

 

 

> Hi Candy,

> I've made my doc laugh at me, but showed him the results too, so he's

getting better about giving me crap about using what I

> can make.

> I wear a medication patch--dang thing gives me dermatitis, he wants me

using cortisone cream (doesn't work). So I used

> cortisone cream on one patch, used my whipped shea on a newer patch,

showed him the difference (the whipped shea heals faster

> than the cortisone cream did, even took the date labels that come with my

patches and dated the treatment starts). He didn't

> say much but quit hassling me about using " moisturizer " on it

> LOL,

> Serra

>

>

>

> " C. Lucas " wrote:

>

> > Thanks Patty,

> >

> > I have not used Comfrey....as this was something I had heard too.

> >

> > Everytime I have been to the Dr.....I forget to mention it....and I

don't

> > want to make a special trip.

> > Although I may have to do so.

> >

> > And not to mention, I really don't care for the way he is......I mean,

he

> > seems to be a pretty good doctor, but not very open to anything other

than

> > prescription medication. He wanted me to use a RX face wash....but it

made

> > my face worse! I told him that I was using homemade soap, and that it

was

> > doing better with that.....and he complained! Yet, he tried to send me

home

> > with a sample bar of DOVE soap for sensitive skin. How dumb is that? I

> > don't need an MD after my name to know something was wrong with that! I

> > told him that I can't use DOVE soap....there's something in it, that my

skin

> > truly doesn't like! I break out something horrible if I use that stuff.

> > Hence, the reason I make my own soap! He wasn't amused in my balking

his

> > 'medical' advice that's for sure.

> >

> > Anyway, I guess I need to get with my family quack...um, I mean doctor,

and

> > see if he can recommend another dermatologist.

> >

> > Thanks again for your reply,

> > Candy

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Patty,

 

Me calling my family doctor a quack, was my poor attempt at a joke!

 

The dermatolgist has done a fairly good job with the stuff he is

treating.....with the exception of the RX face wash....

 

Just venting a little frustration.....

 

But I am glad that you were on your soap box.....you did give me quite a bit

to think about.

 

Thanks,

Candy

-

<PACorapi

 

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:10 PM

Re: EO's for healing sores

 

 

>

> Actually, I meant a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine - they are trained the

> same as a regular MD, but they also receive training in holistic

techniques that

> emphasize the body's ability to heal.

>

> When I was having problems with my lower back, I went to a Neurologist

that

> was a DO. He had no problem with me giving a diagnosis and then my using

> herbs to work problem. He did give me a prescription, but it was if I

wanted to

> use it and it was not for a knock out drug to mask the problem. It was

> actually a muscle relaxer to release the tension. It turned out I had a

bulging

> disk which I would never have been able to discover without the MRI. He

also

> checked to be sure there was no nerve damage. So he told me the problem

and

> I worked it with herbs and other holistic treatments. He did also write

me

> a prescription for massages which my health insurance covered partially.

He

> was also open to my seeing an acupuncturist as well. He sent me to

physical

> therapy which helped greatly after a whiplash problem.

>

> Remember there are some doctors that are open to holistic treatments. I

> have found that using a DO instead of an MD or an MD that has been

recommended

> from a local herb shop. Some of them really do use herbs or at least are

open

> to their use.

>

> Or you can try a Doctor of Oriental Medicine as there is probably an

> imbalance in the body which is causing the flare ups.

>

> Best of luck and sorry to hear of your problems with the current

> dermatologist. Personally, I would not go back to him if he wasn't open

to your wishes.

> He is not going to be able to do his job as the two of you are not on

the

> same playing field. The doctor and the patient have to be working

together

> for healing to take place. And I believe this goes for any type of

healing.

> If you both don't trust each other or believe in the same types of

healing, it

> will never work. It doesn't even stand a chance. You are wasting both

your

> time and the doctor's. Look for a new doctor and ask questions before

you

> make an appointment. I ask the person if the doctor is open to me

strictly

> using herbs as a course of treatment. If they don't know or balk, I thank

them

> for their time and look elsewhere. Because I know it will not work as

the

> doctor will think I'm nuts for not taking his drugs and I'll think he

just as

> nuts for not taking my herbs. And I respect both of our opinions and I

> wouldn't try to fight the system, because nobody wins. If you think your

doctor is

> a quack before you go to them, there is no respect and more than likely

no

> chance for healing to occur. Or tell them you are just looking for a

> diagnosis. Ask them to run the tests, get the results and work the issue

with who

> you trust as your healer. Remember even if we think MDs are quacks, they

have

> some wonderful tools to get to the root of a problem - blood test,

x-rays,

> and such. I'll be getting down off my soap box now.

>

> Have a wonderful day.

>

> Green Blessings

> Patty Corapi

>

> In a message dated 8/18/2004 2:50:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> chrisziggy writes:

>

> Patti mentioned finding a Doctor Of Oriental Medicine ..

>

> Here is a link to helping folks find them in their area (also listed in

> the group's links section)

> http://www.nccaom.org/find.htm

>

> In many cases insurance will cover a visit to them as an " out of network

> physician " .

>

> Good luck!

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com