Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 As they come out I will be passing along some wonderful lessons being written by Rita over a TLC Soaps. All of her contact info is at the bottom of this page. Thanks Rita! We love ya *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ I hope this is of help with your soapmaking. :-) DOS is called " dreaded orange spots " and are said to be the first sign of a soap going bad. This I have come to the conclusion of over the last several years is a bunch of hoohaa. I do have soaps that do that from time to time and I take the spots off and they don't come back or I leave them there and they are fine. What are they? I find that a lot of time it is something not stirred into the soap mixture completely that causes them. I have had 2 batches that I made that I did not get the reconstituted powdered Goats Milk stirred into the mixture really well before it traced and this causes orange spots in the soap and even a few dry spots of milk that did not get reconstituted well showed up when I cut the soap that I just took out and they were and are fine. Also from time to time if the fragrance, whether FO or EO do not get completely incorporated into the soap it will cause these same spots. Even an oil added at trace for superfatting that is not stirred into the mix can cause this same problem. I have never had mold grow on any soap except a soap that had gotten to moist from a show that I did and I did not realize that when I put them in the plastic container that it would cause mold to grow because of the excess moisture. But all I had to do with them was cut off the molded area and it was fine soap to use. Can soap go bad and really be nasty? Well that is something that I have seen in the past only once and it had to do with a soap that was marketed to a chain grocery store and the soap had lots of fruit pulp in it and was completely molded on the outside of the soap. Using juices and a bit of pulp from fruits or veggies are fine, but to much of the pulp can cause problems. Will a preservative help? No, soap really should not have that added to it, IMHO. GSE is an antioxident that some of the older books call a preservative, it is not and does not hold up in the lye process as well as some think it does and therefore gives not help to the soap. Why do I say that? Because I have tried several soaps recipes with lots of pulp in them, used the GSE and it did not stop the soap from going bad. Another thing is why would one want to make a soap that has additives that can go bad in the first place and then just contaminate the soap with a preservative if one is wanting to make as close to a natural soap as possible. ?? Juices are very nice in soap and even small amounts of certain fruits like Cucumber make a wonderful soap, but I have found no need for preservatives if their is not a super abundance of pulp used and mostly only the juices are used. How about Herbal Teas? They make for some really wonderful soaps and do not require any preservatives either. The use of herbs in soaps also I find do not warrant a preservative. So my conclusion is that for the most part there is no need to worry about so called DOS or adding a preservative to soaps. Just don't use so much of a fruit or veggie pulp or the soap will go bad. Written by Rita of TLC Soaps and Sundries r <rcsoap csoap -- Rita...Homeschooling Mom in Georgia May the ~A~ngels up ~A~bove Guide you with Love ~A~ <http://www.tlcsoaps.com/book.htm> http://www.tlcsoaps.com/book.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Thanks for posting this Chris and thanks Rita for writing it! I always wondered about that. I made a batch of organic soap with canola, palm, coconut & olive oils. I scented with geranium and lavender eo's. After 4 weeks of cure time I saw the little spots and instead of throwing it out or whatever since the DOS was supposed to be bad, I put them up and kind of forgot about them for a couple months. I just found them, opened the box and guess what, no more orange spots. Weird huh. Margaret www.naturalindulgences.com _______________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 So in your case Margaret DOS stands for Disappearing Orange Spots *tee hee* *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > Margaret Helm-Duell [naturalindulgences] > Thanks for posting this Chris and thanks Rita for writing it! > > I always wondered about that. I made a batch of organic soap > with canola, > palm, coconut & olive oils. I scented with geranium and > lavender eo's. > After 4 weeks of cure time I saw the little spots and instead > of throwing it > out or whatever since the DOS was supposed to be bad, I put > them up and kind > of forgot about them for a couple months. I just found them, > opened the box > and guess what, no more orange spots. Weird huh. > > Margaret > www.naturalindulgences.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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