Digest Number 1485 - Aust Sandalwood, final comment

[Guest guest]

Martin good morning,

 

On the subject of Australian Sandalwood oil you are talking nonsense! I realise

that you need to maintain the preceived notion of 'expert power', but on this

subject you are wrong.

 

Don't discourage people from using this very beneficial oil on the basis of

spurious information that you have gleaned from somewhere or other and then

claim to be fact. It is counter productive.

 

Unless you are prepared to come to Australia and talk to growers, distillers and

suppliers you cannot speak with any authority.

 

You also used the word examination where I used discussion. They are not the

same thing.

 

The British Broadcasting Corporation has stuffed up in the past on a few items,

but you know your media better than I do as I know our ABC better than you.

 

 

 

Merinda

 

Message: 4

Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:23:58 -0000

" aromamedical2003 "

Re: Digest Number 1477 - Aust Sandalwood

 

>as after a while'strong' discussions can become boring or

>distressing to some Aromatherapists.

 

If people find the strong examination of what they do, how they do it

and what they use, etc. distressing or boring then they have no right

being in the health care business. It is exactly that kind of

covering up or prettying up critical examination of the facts which

has got this trade into the state it is. That state is people

preferering to accept fairy tales than the facts.

 

Oh by the way, never assume that TV broadcasters such as the BBC are

terribly professional nowadays as recent events here have shown. I

would put my faith any day in assembling facts from numerous sources

than what a TV programme tells me.

 

>I think I would trust my Australian Suppliers a lot more<

I have written on that one before on this group. Many suppliers will

tell you what they think you want to hear.

Martin

 

, Merinda

wrote:

> Morning Martin,

>

> the ABC I mentioned is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. It

is the equivalent of the BBC without any offshoots. Their

researchers have a great deal of credibility and the programme

Landline (Thanks Dennis, had forgotten the name) is information about

farming techiniques and product. It is very much government owned.

>

> Quite frankly, I would trust them sooner than various well-known

authors as they do not have a 'position of expert power' to

maintain. The information that was broadcast was not several years

ago, but current. So your authority quoted is a little out of date.

>

> Sandalwood is still controlled, as far as I am aware in Western

Australia and CALM has various vested interests which are not

necessarily accurate. That applies to many of the State Government

departments, not WA specifically.

>

> I think I would trust my Australian Suppliers a lot more than

overseas suppliers with a vested interest (even if it is not

monetary).

>

> Basically I consider your pedantic comments just so much nonsense

and not worth further discussion. You are holding too tightly to

oldfashioned ideas and appear to be very scared of new ones. Allow

other people to have access to new oils so that they can see what is

available and how wonderful they are. You remind me too much of a

lecturer I had who indicated that if she didn't think it was

worthwhile teaching about an oil it was worth while knowing about

it. Such a silly attitude!

>

> Never mind, Martin. I am sure that there are many people out there

who still think well of you, I'm just not one of them. Maybe some

day I will agree with your narrow views, but I am not sure that I

will live that long.

>

> To keep Chris and the other members happy may I suggest that if you

wish to continue this discussion we take in away from the group as

after a while 'strong' discussions can become boring or distressing

to some Aromatherapists.

>

>

> Regards

> Merinda

>

> Proud supporter of Sydney Metropolitan Wildlife Services

> To rescue Australian native wildlife in the Sydney met region

> phone 02 9413 4300

>

>

 

 

Regards

Merinda

 

Proud supporter of Sydney Metropolitan Wildlife Services

To rescue Australian native wildlife in the Sydney met region

phone 02 9413 4300

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

>but on this subject you are wrong.<

If I am wrong then so are all the numerous references on the web

sites bearing the articles to which I referred. The discussion was

about the sustainability of Australian sandalwood trees. Seems

pretty conclusive that these trees are not being replanted in the

wild locations where they grow. I can't find anyone who is saying

different including the producers themselves. So until the

plantations come on stream in a hundred years the natural habitat is

being depleted. Can you provide any references that this is not the

case as I have provided references saying that this is true?

Martin

 

, Merinda <aromamerinda>

wrote:

> Martin good morning,

>

> On the subject of Australian Sandalwood oil you are talking

nonsense! I realise that you need to maintain the preceived notion

of 'expert power', but on this subject you are wrong.

>

> Don't discourage people from using this very beneficial oil on the

basis of spurious information that you have gleaned from somewhere or

other and then claim to be fact. It is counter productive.

>

> Unless you are prepared to come to Australia and talk to growers,

distillers and suppliers you cannot speak with any authority.

>

> You also used the word examination where I used discussion. They

are not the same thing.

>

> The British Broadcasting Corporation has stuffed up in the past on

a few items, but you know your media better than I do as I know our

ABC better than you.

>

>

>

> Merinda

>

> Message: 4

> Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:23:58 -0000

> " aromamedical2003 "

> Re: Digest Number 1477 - Aust Sandalwood

>

> >as after a while'strong' discussions can become boring or

> >distressing to some Aromatherapists.

>

> If people find the strong examination of what they do, how they do

it

> and what they use, etc. distressing or boring then they have no

right

> being in the health care business. It is exactly that kind of

> covering up or prettying up critical examination of the facts which

> has got this trade into the state it is. That state is people

> preferering to accept fairy tales than the facts.

>

> Oh by the way, never assume that TV broadcasters such as the BBC

are

> terribly professional nowadays as recent events here have shown. I

> would put my faith any day in assembling facts from numerous

sources

> than what a TV programme tells me.

>

> >I think I would trust my Australian Suppliers a lot more<

> I have written on that one before on this group. Many suppliers

will

> tell you what they think you want to hear.

> Martin

>

> , Merinda

> wrote:

> > Morning Martin,

> >

> > the ABC I mentioned is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

It

> is the equivalent of the BBC without any offshoots. Their

> researchers have a great deal of credibility and the programme

> Landline (Thanks Dennis, had forgotten the name) is information

about

> farming techiniques and product. It is very much government owned.

> >

> > Quite frankly, I would trust them sooner than various well-known

> authors as they do not have a 'position of expert power' to

> maintain. The information that was broadcast was not several years

> ago, but current. So your authority quoted is a little out of date.

> >

> > Sandalwood is still controlled, as far as I am aware in Western

> Australia and CALM has various vested interests which are not

> necessarily accurate. That applies to many of the State Government

> departments, not WA specifically.

> >

> > I think I would trust my Australian Suppliers a lot more than

> overseas suppliers with a vested interest (even if it is not

> monetary).

> >

> > Basically I consider your pedantic comments just so much nonsense

> and not worth further discussion. You are holding too tightly to

> oldfashioned ideas and appear to be very scared of new ones. Allow

> other people to have access to new oils so that they can see what

is

> available and how wonderful they are. You remind me too much of a

> lecturer I had who indicated that if she didn't think it was

> worthwhile teaching about an oil it was worth while knowing about

> it. Such a silly attitude!

> >

> > Never mind, Martin. I am sure that there are many people out

there

> who still think well of you, I'm just not one of them. Maybe some

> day I will agree with your narrow views, but I am not sure that I

> will live that long.

> >

> > To keep Chris and the other members happy may I suggest that if

you

> wish to continue this discussion we take in away from the group as

> after a while 'strong' discussions can become boring or distressing

> to some Aromatherapists.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > Merinda

> >

> > Proud supporter of Sydney Metropolitan Wildlife Services

> > To rescue Australian native wildlife in the Sydney met region

> > phone 02 9413 4300

> >

> >

>

>

> Regards

> Merinda

>

> Proud supporter of Sydney Metropolitan Wildlife Services

> To rescue Australian native wildlife in the Sydney met region

> phone 02 9413 4300

>

>

>

>

> Find local movie times and trailers on Movies.

>

>

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