Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 >>>>Christy, Welcome the " Saponifiers Annonymous " ! Those of us that can't >>>>seem to do without making soap<g>!! It seems to me that you may have stirred to long, and almost had what we call a sieze. Was the consistance almost like mashed potatoes?<<<< No, it was definitely pudding. Very smooth, creamy, like a soft pudding. >>>> On the next batch try adding your EO's at very light trace. then just >>>>stir them in with the spoonuntil it is all gone, then pour. <<<<< I'm already thinking ahead to things to do different. Maybe got a little carried away with the stick blender. >>>>Also, it seems to me that those of us that live in the warmer climates, don't have to stir quite as long as those living more to the north of us. Chris, have you found a difference from the time it takes to trace from here and Colorado? I know that most of the time, I get to trace in less than 4 minutes. Hope this helps you Christy. Anita in TX<<<<<<<< I wondered about that, also. And curring time might be shortened a bit? It's so dry here in Phoenix. The soap, I would think, would dry out quicker than if it were in a humid climate. Do you use a stick blender, Anita? Where in TX are you? As soon as our house sells, we're off to Dallas to join dh. Christy BOTANICAL AROMATICS My Company in the Making _______________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 HI Christy, 'Aha! That was your problem, the stick blender. Use it definitely, but as soon as you get to a light trace (when you can leave a trail on the top) take it out, and then add the essential oils etc, or anything else, and use a wooden spoon to gently mix them in. When a soap gets to trace, the saponification process is just beginning, and anything added may accelerate the process. Ive known new soapers end up with this giant lollipop on the end of the stick blender - grin Mary Well, Naturally http://www.wellnaturally.com At 04:45 PM 6/27/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >>>>Christy, Welcome the " Saponifiers Annonymous " ! Those of us that can't > >>>>seem to >do without making soap<g>!! >It seems to me that you may have stirred to long, and almost had what we >call a >sieze. Was the consistance almost like mashed potatoes?<<<< > >No, it was definitely pudding. Very smooth, creamy, like a soft pudding. > > >>>> On the next batch try adding your EO's at very light trace. then just > >>>>stir them in with the spoonuntil it is all gone, then pour. <<<<< > >I'm already thinking ahead to things to do different. Maybe got a little >carried away with the stick blender. > > >>>>Also, it seems to me that those of us that >live in the warmer climates, don't have to stir quite as long as those >living >more to the north of us. Chris, have you found a difference from the time >it >takes to trace from here and Colorado? I know that most of the time, I get >to >trace in less than 4 minutes. Hope this helps you Christy. >Anita in TX<<<<<<<< > >I wondered about that, also. And curring time might be shortened a bit? > It's so dry here in Phoenix. The soap, I would think, would dry out >quicker than if it were in a humid climate. Do you use a stick blender, >Anita? Where in TX are you? As soon as our house sells, we're off to >Dallas to join dh. > > > > >Christy >BOTANICAL AROMATICS >My Company in the Making > >_______________ >FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > >Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: >http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html > >To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: >/join > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I have been told by a avid well seasoned soaper that she adds her fo's and eo's to the oils after they have melted before adding the lye, and have had no problems with it burning off or seizing, and I have started doing that myself, but I agree about the stick blender, matter of fact I don't wait till I see a definate trace when the oils start sticking to the sides of the stick blender or pan then I know its ready for fragrance.Marti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Congrats on the soap making success Christy! > >>>>Christy, Welcome the " Saponifiers Annonymous " ! Those of us that > >>>>can't > >>>>seem to > do without making soap<g>!! > It seems to me that you may have stirred to long, and almost > had what we > call a > sieze. Was the consistance almost like mashed potatoes?<<<< > > No, it was definitely pudding. Very smooth, creamy, like > a soft pudding. Sounds like you just went a bit past trace .. That's all ... > > >>>> On the next batch try adding your EO's at very light > trace. then > >>>>just > >>>>stir them in with the spoonuntil it is all gone, then pour. <<<<< > > I'm already thinking ahead to things to do different. > Maybe got a little > carried away with the stick blender. Just stirred a wee bit too long You'll get a feel for it! > > >>>>Also, it seems to me that those of us that > live in the warmer climates, don't have to stir quite as long > as those > living > more to the north of us. Chris, have you found a difference > from the time > it > takes to trace from here and Colorado? I know that most of > the time, I get > to > trace in less than 4 minutes. Hope this helps you Christy. > Anita in TX<<<<<<<< > > I wondered about that, also. In my experience trace time depends more on the oils used. BUT in Colorado I never needed to do a water discount, and here I do, or it takes forever to cure. I saw you (or someone) asked about why the lye calculator at MMS gives a range from say 10 oz to 15 oz ... 15 oz is the " regular " recommended amount of liquid to use, and 10 is the most discounted recommended amount (since some folks like to discount the water some for a faster cure time) ... And curring time might be > shortened a bit? > It's so dry here in Phoenix. The soap, I would think, > would dry out > quicker than if it were in a humid climate. YES! You'll notice your soap will be nice and cured hard in a lot faster time frame than most soap books or web sited recommend! > Christy > BOTANICAL AROMATICS > My Company in the Making *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I'm just north of Houston, between H. and Conroe. Yup, the six weeks cure time is on the side of caution. Depending on the recipe, most soaps can be ready sooner. Try a cutting off of a bar in 4 weeks. If it doesn't feel like granma's soap(tingly, eat your skin up), then it should be ready to use. Especially in the Arizona climate! Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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