OT: The World Condems Islamic Terrorist Atrocities

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The major difference is that a pack of wolves will attack only because

they need to eat you .. they are hungry. These Islamic terrorists are

not hungry ..

 

 

I beg to differ with this. I think they are hungry.. Hungry for blood.

And at least wolves are satiated. These people never will be, at least

until they are, as you put it, under the snakes.

 

No ma'am .. then we would be no better than they are. American soldiers

 

do not regret innocent deaths because the media bomblasts them or the

locals call them murderers. The average young American will carry such

unfortunate memories with them until they go under snakes. Its not a

norm for Americans (or Europeans) to do such things. Even criminals in

American prisons have their own morals .. as child molesters and sex

crime offenders always learn when they go on a cell block.

 

Thank you for saying that. I was trying to come up with that response

but couldn't do it so eloquently. NO, we DON " T and SHOULD'T fight like

they do. That would tell everyone (and most importantly our children)

that we believe what they do is acceptable. It takes truly " civilized "

people to be respectable in warfare.

JMnevertobeHO

Karen J

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Kathy,

 

> Butch,

> I really appriecate how you keep us up to date and informed on what is

> going on over there.

 

Welcome .. but I think most of you folks get it quicker than I do. ;-)

 

> I am deeply disturbed by all of these attacks.

 

Yep .. they have definitely thrown down the gauntlet .. and there can be

no forgiveness for sawing off the heads of innocent people.

 

> What I'm wondering is if the world pulled out now what would happen to all

> of us (I'm sure they would think that they won)?

 

They would have won if we pull out. Pulling out of Vietnam (regardless

of whether the reasons were right or wrong) and pulling out of Somalia

(which was WRONG and a BIG MISTAKE) only gave them more incentive .. and

made the USA look like it was not willing to stick it out when faced

with casualties .. which .. was true for a long time.

 

> Would we live in fear of the terrorist for the rest of our lives?

 

IF .. they are not converted into nice little stay-at-home daddies who

teach their younguns to pray and follow the TRUE teachings of the Koran,

then we have strong justification for fearing them .. they will continue

to pop up when least expected. Its not like we are fighting against a

nation-state sponsored evil .. if that were the case then there would be

light at the end of the tunnel because no nation-state can stand up to

the USA in conventional warfare .. and there is only so much guerilla or

terrorist or house-to-house fighting we are willing to put up with ..

regardless of the cries from Peaceniks to come home. But I think my

post prior to this one indicated that they are not willing to be nice

guys .. that is not their goal .. psychologists in the West and the

Middle East have profiled these people and the ones they recruit.

 

Basically .. peace will come for NOW through superior intelligence

(meaning information sources) and superior firepower. Peace will come

for the long term when the Islamic countries decide to crack down on the

fundamentalist imams and hocas who are preaching Jihad and hatred in the

mosques. Settlement of the difficulties between Israel and Palestinians

is not a driver of that Peace Train .. its just another excuse they use

for justifying their zeal. Take that away and they will find another.

 

We must be right EVERY TIME .. but they only need to be right ONE TIME.

Its a bit like being surrounded by a pack of wolves when you have only a

stick to defend yourself. In time, they will get you. Those who are

not with you at that time must make plans for how to deal with those

wolves in the future.

 

The major difference is that a pack of wolves will attack only because

they need to eat you .. they are hungry. These Islamic terrorists are

not hungry .. they are financed with millions of dollars and they are

often led by well educated people. One of the leaders of Hizbullah

captured in Turkey a couple of years back was a surgeon in one of the

major hospitals.

 

> Could the country (Iraq) become capable of working with the world market

 

They can .. and probably will .. in time. But its not easy to adapt to

a system that they have NEVER EVER experienced .. the form of Democracy

practiced in America is different from that practiced in most of Europe

and that practiced in newly formed Democratic countries will also be

different .. and that's not bad. The concept of Democracy is but one of

the many requirements for the practice of human rights, as is religion,

and morals .. human rights and morals are not inherent in man .. they

are learned behavior .. they began to be learned when man was exposed to

religious teachings .. Buddhism, Confucius, Judaism, Christianity and

Islam. Prior to that man was but a two legged animal.

 

The reason the Chinese Communists feel no need for practicing human

rights is they no longer are driven by morals. Mao took that all away

when he banished Buddha and Confucius and substituted Marx & Lenin.

 

> or would some other mad man undo everything we are trying to help their

> people with?

 

Only if they are allowed to do so .. and I think the American people,

the average left leaner included, would never accept that .. and for

sure I think the American Congress wouldn't. The United Nations could

turn their heads under the right conditions .. but no nation can allow

decisions affecting their own best interests to be decided by a group

like that represented in the UN .. or the UN Security Council.

 

> I really don't want to be at war with people who value life so little as

> to put the inocents at risk.

 

Its only the extremists who think that way .. and they are easily

recruited from the ignorant masses. Just today I was in the vicinity of

the President of Turkey and commented to someone on how easy it would be

to take him and half those present out if someone was willing to forfeit

their own life in doing so.

 

> One of the talk radio people I listen to (and I'm beginning to agree with

> him) says " Why should we follow the rules of war when these terrorists don't?

 

Because we are civilized and they aren't. Because we want to be an

example of what a nation that respects human rights should be. At the

same time, its not easy to combat those who don't think as we do .. and

not easy to combat the partisan lines that normally pee and moan about

what a president does .. regardless of what party is in power. There

are times when ALL nations bend the rules based on tactical conditions

of the day .. its something that is necessary for survival and something

we don't want publicized .. that is a reality.

 

> Shouldn't we just fight the way they fight. "

 

No ma'am .. then we would be no better than they are. American soldiers

do not regret innocent deaths because the media bomblasts them or the

locals call them murderers. The average young American will carry such

unfortunate memories with them until they go under snakes. Its not a

norm for Americans (or Europeans) to do such things. Even criminals in

American prisons have their own morals .. as child molesters and sex

crime offenders always learn when they go on a cell block.

 

> I guess we should just start kidnapping their leadership and start

> beheading them.

 

Kidnapping hostile leaders is acceptable under the laws of land warfare.

Beheading is acceptable if convicted by a court in a nation-state that

uses that form of punishment. But not summary executions of innocents.

 

> Sorry, I'm not a blood thirsty person but these terrorists make me feel

> this way. Kathy

 

I am sure you are not blood thirsty. I'm sure no sane people are .. and

that goes for the American military .. you are just frustrated .. and a

bit angry. I share these feelings with you. I swear on the lives of

my children that I will break for any animal and I even avoid stepping

on ants on the sidewalk if I can avoid it .. but I would not lose a

single moment of sleep by gutting or giving a third eye to one of the

assholes who are even now planning to kill folks like us. Butch