Was Tea Tree and Diabetes NOW Tea Tree and infected leg ulcers

[Guest guest]

Martin,

 

This is very interesting.

 

I have a cousin that has had 9 surgeries to her right leg since August 2003.

She has suffered from staph infection, and has had to take unreal amounts of

vancomycin <sp?> and has had to have a muscle and skin grafting done. This

leg still isn't healed and she's suffering greatly.

 

Could you pass along the advice you are talking about in the excerpt below?

Do you think this would help with this type of wound? If needed, you may

contact me offlist as well.

 

Thanks for any info you can give.

 

Candy in AL

cdlucas

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" aromamedical2003 " <aromamedical-2

 

Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:28 AM

Re: Tea Tree and Diabetes

 

 

 

> I have several documented cases from a Scottish hospital where badly

> infected leg ulcers and infected cellulitis were treated using advice

> that I gave the nurses. We have many photos of the progression of the

> healing process. Unfortunately, as the main nurse retired, these

> results have never been published so they remain anecdotal to a

> degree. However, well qualified medical people were most impressed by

> how the combination of essential oils and other natural materials

> helped the body heal those wounds and we also have microbiological

> plate test results before and after treatment. Tea tree oil was

> always a part of these treatments but the way it was used and how

> much was formulated for each individual. The nurses were instructed

> to constantly monitor for excess inflammation and the formulas were

> changed on a weekly basis as the wounds improved.

[Guest guest]

Yuck, staph--that could very well be what my mom has. She had an

infection in her leg before that the doctor suspected was staph and

was on antibiotics for months...her leg actually had holes in it from

the infection, a few mm deep. It was pretty gross.

 

But the tea tree seemed to help a little with this most recent thing,

though she hasn't used it for a few days. I might dilute some and try

it again and just watch her carefully...

-K

 

 

 

, " C. Lucas " <cdlucas@t...> wrote:

> Martin,

>

> This is very interesting.

>

> I have a cousin that has had 9 surgeries to her right leg since

August 2003.

> She has suffered from staph infection, and has had to take unreal

amounts of

> vancomycin <sp?> and has had to have a muscle and skin grafting

done. This

> leg still isn't healed and she's suffering greatly.

>

> Could you pass along the advice you are talking about in the excerpt

below?

> Do you think this would help with this type of wound? If needed,

you may

> contact me offlist as well.

>

> Thanks for any info you can give.

>

> Candy in AL

> cdlucas@t...

> -

> " aromamedical2003 " <aromamedical-2@l...>

>

> Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:28 AM

> Re: Tea Tree and Diabetes

>

>

>

> > I have several documented cases from a Scottish hospital where badly

> > infected leg ulcers and infected cellulitis were treated using advice

> > that I gave the nurses. We have many photos of the progression of the

> > healing process. Unfortunately, as the main nurse retired, these

> > results have never been published so they remain anecdotal to a

> > degree. However, well qualified medical people were most impressed by

> > how the combination of essential oils and other natural materials

> > helped the body heal those wounds and we also have microbiological

> > plate test results before and after treatment. Tea tree oil was

> > always a part of these treatments but the way it was used and how

> > much was formulated for each individual. The nurses were instructed

> > to constantly monitor for excess inflammation and the formulas were

> > changed on a weekly basis as the wounds improved.

[Guest guest]

Kat,

 

I sure hope that's not the case with your mom. My cousin, like I said had

to have a muscle and skin graft.....and it's because the staph infection,

literally ATE the skin and muscle all the way to the bone. Very very bad

deal, indeed.

 

Best of luck to your mom....hope she's well soon.

 

Candy in AL

 

 

> Yuck, staph--that could very well be what my mom has. She had an

> infection in her leg before that the doctor suspected was staph and

> was on antibiotics for months...her leg actually had holes in it from

> the infection, a few mm deep. It was pretty gross.

[Guest guest]

As I said in my earlier mail, the treatments we used for leg ulcers

were very much individual and so it is difficult to generalise. The

most important thing for me was the hospital lab made cultures of the

infections so I knew what bugs I was dealing with. Then I could look

up the necessary oils in my database to zap those specific bugs.

 

The wounds were first flushed using sterile water with a few drops of

terpeneless lavender. Terpene reduced lavender oil will mix a bit

with water but getting that oil now is difficult - I have not seen it

in the UK in a while. The wound was left to air dry or dabbed dry

with sterile tissue.

 

We also varied the treatments; for example, to hit the bugs hard we

would use combinations like tea tree 1%, german chamomile half

percent and terpeneless lavender 3% for a few days, but the nurses

were not allowed to put a dressing over the wound. Any signs of

irritation they were told to reduce the volumes of oil until the

patient reported no irritation. Then as things improved, the volumes

of oil were reduced week by week. If a wound was very weepy I might

add in a couple of drops of hyssop oil. German chamomile oil is the

finest clinically documented oil for healing wounds.

 

The essential oils were mixed with either fractionated coconut oil-

the best thing since sliced bread or with aloe vera gel. The oil

blend was then dripped onto the wound with the leg elevated and the

patients were only allowed a dressing if they were likely to rub it

on the bedding or as they walked around. This does take weeks to

months to do the trick, but we did succeed in getting healing where a

previous skin graft had failed. The old ladies were very pleased

because some had suffered pain for years with these ulcers.

 

The above is only a rough formula and should not be taken as being

suitable for every individual. Only by having microbiological

testing can you know if you are doing more good than harm, otherwise

it is a stab in the dark. You also need to know the oils you use are

what the supplier claims they are. That one alone is a minefield in

aromatherapy. All our oils came from my ex employer who was also an

analyst so I knew exactly what we were using. Before someone asks,

no he does not have a web site.

 

Using slightly more aggresive treatment we got an old lady with

serious infected cellulitis home a week earlier than the hospital had

anticipated. However, with that case she had also been given

antibiotics so it was not possible to say conclusively that the oils

did the trick. I could only go with the nurses and consultants who

were most surprised.

 

Due to the law here in the UK I cannot give individual advice on such

matters, but my students know I help them with such general advice

when possible. You can find out which oils hit which bugs by getting

my oils database from Butch. Always remember though that essential

oils vary like crazy in their antimicrobial activity. Even tea tree

oil does not always work. So much better to hedge your bets and

blend about 3 oils with similar properties, then if one is lacking,

the others may do the trick.

 

I could ask the nurse who took the photos if they could be put in the

documents section by Chris if you like. She allowed me to use them

at various conferences in the past and some on this group may have

seen them. They are pretty gruesome though!

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, " C. Lucas " <cdlucas@t...>

wrote:

> Martin,

>

> This is very interesting.

>

> I have a cousin that has had 9 surgeries to her right leg since

August 2003.

> She has suffered from staph infection, and has had to take unreal

amounts of

> vancomycin <sp?> and has had to have a muscle and skin grafting

done. This

> leg still isn't healed and she's suffering greatly.

>

> Could you pass along the advice you are talking about in the

excerpt below?

> Do you think this would help with this type of wound? If needed,

you may

> contact me offlist as well.

>

> Thanks for any info you can give.

>

> Candy in AL

> cdlucas@t...

> -

> " aromamedical2003 " <aromamedical-2@l...>

>

> Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:28 AM

> Re: Tea Tree and Diabetes

>

>

>

> > I have several documented cases from a Scottish hospital where

badly

> > infected leg ulcers and infected cellulitis were treated using

advice

> > that I gave the nurses. We have many photos of the progression of

the

> > healing process. Unfortunately, as the main nurse retired, these

> > results have never been published so they remain anecdotal to a

> > degree. However, well qualified medical people were most

impressed by

> > how the combination of essential oils and other natural materials

> > helped the body heal those wounds and we also have microbiological

> > plate test results before and after treatment. Tea tree oil was

> > always a part of these treatments but the way it was used and how

> > much was formulated for each individual. The nurses were

instructed

> > to constantly monitor for excess inflammation and the formulas

were

> > changed on a weekly basis as the wounds improved.

[Guest guest]

Did she have necrotizing fasciitis?

 

New email address: rubberjunkie

 

*Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.*

Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996

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C. Lucas

Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:02 PM

Re: Re: Was Tea Tree and Diabetes NOW Tea Tree and

infected leg ulcers

 

 

Kat,

 

I sure hope that's not the case with your mom. My cousin, like I said had

to have a muscle and skin graft.....and it's because the staph infection,

literally ATE the skin and muscle all the way to the bone. Very very bad

deal, indeed.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well, it did go, but this new thing she said hurts like it did....I

should ask her if she's got an app't with the doctor yet to check it

out, just in case...

 

 

 

, " Tracy Rivera "

<rubberjunkie@f...> wrote:

> Did she have necrotizing fasciitis?

>

> New email address: rubberjunkie@f...

>

> *Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.*

> Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996

> Our Angel: http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm

> -

> C. Lucas

>

> Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:02 PM

> Re: Re: Was Tea Tree and Diabetes NOW

Tea Tree and infected leg ulcers

>

>

> Kat,

>

> I sure hope that's not the case with your mom. My cousin, like I

said had

> to have a muscle and skin graft.....and it's because the staph

infection,

> literally ATE the skin and muscle all the way to the bone. Very

very bad

> deal, indeed.

>

>

>

>