Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Well, again, thank you all, who have helped me understand more about tallow and it's use in soap. the more I read about making soap, the MORE I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS!!! As I've said, it's taken me literally 3 years to get to this point and actually consider doing it. So, my first baby-steps are underway. I have a book! Wonderful information, and wonderful, simple, basic recipes. Then, more elaborate recipes as I get more comfortable with the basics. I have a thermometer....two, in fact! One for the lye mixture, and one for the vege oil mixture. I have a brand new (chip free) enamal stock pot. Around $8.00 at Walmart. I have two heavy-duty long-handled wooden spoons. I have a heavy-duty plastic pitcher for mixing up the lye concoction. I have rubber spatulas for scraping every bit of the soap out. I have a stick blender. I have plastic gloves. Can't wear latex due to allergic reaction to it. I need goggles, I guess. I wear reading (magnifying) glasses for seeing things close-up. I plan on wearing these while making soap. Would this be adequate? Otherwise, I'll head to Home Depot for the goggles.....oh, and the lye, can't forget that. I have paper to spread on floor/counters, etc. I have molds. What else, what else?? Oh, my OILS! I've decided on Palm, Pomace, and 76 coconut. And some kind of butter. Shea, mango, cocoa. Now I just need to decide on a supplier. Oils are cheap....shipping is not! I have a sweet 11-year old girl in the neighborhood who can come over and play Mommy's Helper and play w/my kidlets so I can concoct undisturbed. I'm almost there. I've heard of first batches failing. Happen to any of you guy's? Christy BOTANICAL AROMATICS My Company in the Making _______________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Hi Christy I think I missed your original post on this subject otherwise I would have replied > Well, again, thank you all, who have helped me understand > more about tallow > and it's use in soap. the more I read about making soap, > the MORE I > REALLY WANT TO DO THIS!!! Oh it is really fun! Definitely worth taking those first steps, BUT I MUST warn you!!!!! It becomes really REALLY addicting *lol* > > As I've said, it's taken me literally 3 years to get to this > point and > actually consider doing it. I think its seems a lot more intimidating that it is. Its really not so bad. And working with lye is about as dangerous as working with boiling water, just gotta be a little careful and its not a big deal. > > So, my first baby-steps are underway. Yay! > I have a book! Good. > Wonderful > information, and wonderful, simple, basic recipes. Then, > more elaborate > recipes as I get more comfortable with the basics. That is the way to do. Don't do quite like me - my first batch was an 8 lb batch *lol* It came out kind of messed up, but I learned ALL about rebatching soap too. And I ended up with 8 beautiful 1 lb batches of soap in the end > > I have a thermometer....two, in fact! One for the lye > mixture, and one > for the vege oil mixture. Good tool to start with, but to be honest at this point I don't even use a thermometer. I just make sure that the lye water and oil are about the same temp and not too hot at that. > > I have a brand new (chip free) enamel stock pot. Around $8.00 at > Walmart. Good deal! > > I have two heavy-duty long-handled wooden spoons. Good! > > I have a heavy-duty plastic pitcher for mixing up the lye concoction. Good, I use a bucket. Just be sure to mix that stuff outside and upwind of it > > I have rubber spatulas for scraping every bit of the soap out. And don't be surprised that you need more of those sooner than later if you do CP > > I have a stick blender. A SAVIOR! *lol* > > I have plastic gloves. Can't wear latex due to allergic > reaction to it. Yes wear those *:: whistling as I walk away not promoting my LACK of safety secret that I don't use gloves now except when I teach classes ::* > > I need goggles, I guess. Goggles, same response as above, but yes, do wear them, lye in the eye isn't good > I wear reading (magnifying) > glasses for seeing > things close-up. I plan on wearing these while making soap. > Would this > be adequate? All you're trying to do is keep a bit of lye water from accidentally splashing up in your eye. Otherwise, I'll head to Home Depot for the > goggles..... You might want to get the safety goggles, makes for a better effect when you're covered in neoprene and wearing safety goggles - very mad scientist-ish <grinz> oh, > and the lye, can't forget that. *lol* Yeah, that is a pretty important ingredient > > I have paper to spread on floor/counters, etc. I never do that - just measure your lye on a scale in the sink - and wipe up any small splatters immediately (and be careful not to splatter > > I have molds. They help if you don't want a blob of soap What else, what else?? Oh, my OILS! I've > decided on > Palm, Pomace, and 76 coconut. And some kind of butter. > Shea, mango, > cocoa. Now I just need to decide on a supplier. Oils are > cheap....shipping is not! Ok - here you might want to start with just a few of the oils mentioned above, literally. I'd STRONGLY suggest you do a mix of just coconut, palm and olive to start with. Then you can get more exotic from there. The simpler you start, the easier you can determine what actually worked and what didn't if something doesn't turn out right. The more oils you have in there, the more you have to figure out if there was anything you didn't like about it - KWIM? Also, another tip, pomace traces FAST!!!! I mean like instantly fast! But other Olive oils, like virgin, trace VERY slowly, so maybe consider using 1/2 pomace and 1/2 virgin olive as your olive oil portion to start with, cause you do not want to deal with an instant trace on your first batch. It won't give you a good feel for soap making and the batch may turn out not as good and it may even scare you (as me how I know this . After you've made a few batches, then try adding stuff like the shea butter/ Oh shea butter makes SUCH a nice soap Oh yeah, and see what oils you can get at your local Sam's Club (or Costco). At the very least you should be able to acquire olive oil there. You might also want to check the yellow pages for local bakery suppliers for the palm and coconut oils .. Just an idea .... > > I have a sweet 11-year old girl in the neighborhood who can > come over and > play Mommy's Helper and play w/my kidlets so I can concoct > undisturbed. That is a BIG plus > > I'm almost there. Don't let it intimidate you so much. After you've made several batches you'll laugh and wonder why you didn't try it long ago, AND why you prepped so hard for it :-D I've heard of first batches failing. > Happen to any of > you guy's? Yep! And I've had other batches come out not quite right too, but you know what I've learned ... I personally haven't come across a failed batch of soap that can't be saved or made into a really nice batch of soap - and I've made thousands of pounds of various kinds of soap (bar and liquid) to date! > Christy > BOTANICAL AROMATICS > My Company in the Making Good luck! And if you have ANY questions post them and they will get answered!!!!! One more tip - you do NOT have to stand there and stir constantly for what seems like ages! Stir for a few minutes then walk away for a few minutes. Repeat until you hit a real trace. Let the chemical reaction work for you! :-D *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I have another neat piece of equipment I'll pass on. Instead of goggles, pay a little more at Home Depot or similar store, and get the full face shield thing that can flip up. It doesn't steam up as bad, or if you wear glasses, it isn't a pain to try and find a pair of goggles that fit over the glasses. It protects not only your eyes, but your mouth and the rest of your face as well. However, like Chris, I don't always practice what I preach Re stirring til trace. You know, in my five + years of making soap, I have never had to stir more than 5 minutes, and usually less, to get to trace. I have always used a stick blender though. It really has amazed me, that people say they have to stir and stir. I guess using a whisk or spoon, that might be the case though. Happy Saponifying~ Anita in TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 I had failures in the beginning but that is because: 1) I did not know any other soapers (before I was on the internet), 2) I did not know about stick blenders 3) I did not know about lye calculators. You have all three issues handled so I doubt you will have any problems. If you need help, just holler. Peggy www.splendidsoap.com > > I'm almost there. I've heard of first batches failing. Happen to any of > you guy's? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Hi Christy, I tried mixing my lye in a heavy plastic pitcher, and the lye eat the inside terribly! I had plastic bits floating in my lye water. I would recommend mixing your lye in a glass pitcher. =o) And the wooden spoons I used barely made it through the first batch! UGH! I use a stainless steel spoon to mix my lye water and to scrape the inside of my stainless steel stock pot, to get all of the soap out. HTH a bit! Candy in AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 My wooden spoon has lasted for five years now. Maybe depends on the wood. I mix my lye in a nalgene plastic container specifically for chemicals. The lye did eat right through one plastic pitcher though...not a very safe situation!!!!! Peggy The Lowell McNaughton Soap Co. " Soap, is a lot like faith. It doesn't reach its full potential, until you use it. " Peggy Lowell 1-715-426-0261 peggy www.splendidsoap.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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