Amy Lansky book / Homeopathy vs W.Med / definition of cure & disease

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Hi Tracy, I have stuck a few comments in below:

 

--- Tracy Rivera <rubberjunkie

wrote:

> I have to strongly disagree with the premise/promise

> of the following book.

 

The book is still a great intro to homeopathy as a

medical system, it's history, philosophy and the

principals underlying it. This was originally posted

as recommendations to beginner books on homeopathy not

to provoke anyone or even a discussion on autism per

se, (and what it is or is not.)

 

> Autistic Spectrum conditions

> have symptoms and characteristics that can be

> treated by various medical means, but the normal

> condition itself cannot be " cured " .

 

Western Medicine tells us that cancer too cannot be

" cured " , nor AIDS, nor many other conditions they

define as incurable.

 

I have seen and heard of many people being restored to

health, or brought to health for the first time, when

they have been what Western (Allopathic) Medicine

terms incurable and even untreatable.

 

I guess it all depends on your definition of " cure " .

 

They are

> neurobiological conditions. The brains are wired

> differently, and in many cases, just built

> differently. Neither homeopathy, nor traditional

> medicine, nor aromatherapy is going to be able to

> cause the brain to spontaneously re-wire itself.

>

> I just don't want others to be misled that there

> exists a 'cure'. Cases do exists where the child

> had problems with communication and sensory issues

> that were treated medically and *seemed* to cure

> some of the autism, but often it is a case of

> treating the various symptoms. Which is fine, but

> it is not a cure for autism itself.

 

Again it depends on your definition of " cure " and even

more fundamentally, on your definition of " health " and

of " disease " both of which most people never bother to

define for themselves, but that's a complete other

thread!

 

You must meanwhile also decide on your paradigm.

Allopathic medicine is still stuck squarely in the

19th Century Newtonian Physics camp. While homeopathy

and Oriental medicine appears to operate on the laws

as observed and defined by the " new physics " , that's

of the main reasons why Western (Allopathic) Medicine

cannot reconcile itself to many forms of alternative

medicine. They are working on and observing different

paradigms!

 

(for more on this see Michael Talbot's book

Holographic Universe, still in print since 1991!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060922583/qid=1086125881/sr=1-1/r\

ef=sr_1_1/104-4322248-7220757?v=glance & s=books

 

or Larry Dossey's book Healing Beyond the Body:

Medicine and the Infinite Reach of the Mind,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1570629234/qid=1086126003/sr=1-2/r\

ef=sr_1_2/104-4322248-7220757?v=glance & s=books)

 

> She refers to autism as a " disease " . That offends

> me. Autism is not a disease. It is, as I said

> before a neurobiological condition. It doesn't make

> one on the autistic spectrum a freak, etc. They are

> wired differently than those who are referred to as

> neuro-typicals (NTs) in the autistic world. There

> exist many levels of autism which is why it is

> referred to as the autistic spectrum.

 

I have read the book and met the author and observed

her for a couple of years in the profession. She

struck me as a very conscientious, compassionate,

intelligent and impassioned person and not at all

offensive. :-) I do not remember her ever referring

to anyone, autistic or not, as a " freak " nor by any

other pejorative either in the book, on lists, or in

person.

 

I do know she is working her butt off to get a message

out that she feels can help people as her own son was

helped. She is spending much of her time on a

volunteer basis doing this. She quit her job and put

all her savings into that book to do this. She

studied homeopathy for at least 7 years (based in my

knowledge of the length of her educational programs,

undergrad and post grad) thus far to do this. She has

become a practitioner of homeopathy to do this. I

have great respect for anyone who puts forth that kind

of time, effort and resources to aid their fellow

beings.

 

Your objection to her calling autism by the term

" disease " (which I cannot speak to, I neither remember

it from the book, nor do I see it as the pejorative

you seem to), seems to be an opinion based on your own

definition of " disease " . But just one point: since we

are talking about homeopathy here we cannot use

Western (Allopathic) Medicine's definition of

" disease " nor can we even say that homeopathy treats

ANY such defined disease name. Homeopathy treats the

person NOT the disease--any disease--as defined by

Western (Allopathic) Medicine.

 

If when discussing homeopathy, you ever hear someone

say it treats " xyz fill-in-the-blank disease "

(allergies, autism, flu, cancer, acne, asthma,

insomnia, etc, etc, etc) they either do not understand

homeopathy or they are using the disease name as a

convenience. To say that homeopathy helped/cured

someone who had been diagnosed as having xyz disease

is a very different statement. Homeopaths do not

diagnose, that's only in the scope of practice of the

Allopaths (MD's). And homeopathy simply does not

treat disease(s), it treats people.

 

Amy Lansky's book is a outline of the history,

philosophy and practice of homeopathy and how

homeopathy helped her son who had been diagnosed by

Allopathic Medicine as having autism. Homeopathy did

not treat or cure " autism " (or whatever your favorite

term for this is). It treated, and possibly did/will

cure, Amy Lansky's SON. Further in the book she

describes her own journey to become the homeopath and

health-freedom advocate she is today. And as such

it's a GREAT book!

 

> Having said that, Lansky's son may have had vaccine

> induced autism.

 

Ooooo, and this is a whole 'nother huge, huge issue

that people have strong, strong feelings about.

Probably better we leave this one issue alone for the

peace of the list. :-) I have rarely seen anyone who

doesn't have a strong opinion about the vaccine issue,

either for or against. (It's as volatile as politics

and religion PUT TOGETHER!)

 

>I can't speak as fully about that,

> as I have not heard of cures for that either, but

> maybe there is a better chance than with the 'born

> with' type. Some speculate that vaccine induced

> autism is not neurobiological autism, but a strong

> sypmtom based similar condition on the spectrum.

 

Homeopathy has a long history of good success treating

people and animals that appear to have been injured by

vaccines in the many and varied presentations thereof.

 

>

> Tracy

 

Well, that's my comments on your comments. I hope

this helps clarify your issue for you rather than

being merely annoying. :-)

 

BTW I am certain Amy is available by email from her

site that I referenced on the book recommendations

post, if you'd like to discuss this with her

personally. She's really a cool person, and if you

have not read her book in its entirety, I really urge

you to do so, it's cheap and it's well written and you

might be surprised to find out it's not quite what you

may think it is.

 

And one MORE thing (only ONE, I promise) ;-)

 

Another interesting anecdotal story of an " impossible

cure " is the last chapter of this book Homeopathy, The

Great Riddle, By Richard GROSSINGER, PhD. His

daughter had an eye condition that was treated by

homeopathy after all else failed to aid. This is not

a miraculous cure, but it was a betterment. And this

book is great, especially if you find the Vitalist

Tradition of medicine interesting. It's also a good

beginner's book, if you like that which is a bit " out

there " .

 

Christina

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Christina,

 

I totally understand what you mean. Sorry if it sounded like I was picking. I

am a big advocate of homeopathy because it worked for us in so many ways with

our babies, etc.

 

I bet the book would be great for general info. I just wanted to comment on the

autism part, so that wouldn't be misunderstood. Cancer and autism are so vastly

different that they can't even be compared. :-) When someone is born on the

autistic spectrum, their brains are *made* differently. Oils, herbs, etc won't

re-build the brain. Just like if a baby is born with a heart defect, surgery is

required; it's not going to go away with aromatherapy, homeopathy, etc. If a

baby is born with Down's Syndrome, it's not going to go away with aromatherapy,

homeopathy, etc. Amy's son was supposedly not born with autism.

 

I *was* born on the spectrum as was two of my daughters. We have yet been

cured, nor would we want to be. It is what and who we are.

 

 

Warmly,

Tracy

*Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.*

Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996

Our Angel: http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm

 

 

[Guest guest]

Christina, thanks for the other homeopathic book listings. And I think you

have done an excellent, and tactful, rebuttal.

 

samala

Renee

" tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I

strive to remember " RLV 1998

 

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Hi Tracy, I have stuck a few comments in below: