Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 The following quote is from an old thread, but it applies to my question. > " Hormone like: stimulates estrogen (?NEF), testosterone (?NEF). > > She is making it clear that this statement is not a proven one and she > herself doubts the credibility .. but she is reporting traditional uses. > We must take the time to read the instructions in the manual .. and the > time to read the " How To Use This Manual " portion because it is clearly > stated that NEF means that there is uncertainty on that claim. In the oils chart, Clary has a similar ((NEF) no question mark) notation on its warning to not use it with endometriosis and other estrogen-dependent conditions. In the Clinical Index, under Endocrine System - estrogen stimulants, it has (?) plus (NEF possible with use of herb), which, btw, is for all the EOs in this particular listing. The EOs listed under estrogen-like have no notations at all. I understand what the notations mean, and that there is uncertainty about the action/use and/or warnings. So where does that leave us with Clary and its use by women who have endo, breast cysts, etc? Is it or is it not safe to use? Can it be used with a caution to be on the lookout for increased or worsened symptoms (that may or may not be caused by the use of Clary)? Does the warning apply to all uses, or only for those that involve absorbtion through the skin? Is this a case where it is better to not use it at all rather than taking a chance? This discussion has come up on another list I'm on, and a number of women on this list are either pre-menopausal or menopausal. Some of them have endo, or other estrogen-dependent conditions (none of them cancers). Clary is the number one recommended EO for female hormone problems, but it has actions and warnings that are uncertain. The EOs listed under estrogen stimulants include many frequently used (in whatever application or product) ones, including Chamomiles, Peppermint, Eucalyptus, Geranium, and Lavender. So what's a woman to do under these circumstances? Should they toss their Clary in the trash? Are there EOs absolutely (and with no uncertainty) safe to use with endo, etc that can help with female hormone issues? My head is beginning to hurt from trying to sort this all out. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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